duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just come on to say I really like this player. I just don't want us poisoning his ability with this team and manager around him. Under Martinez he'd have scored for fun. Such an intelligent player. Too clever for the rest of them out there.He would have had to play as a CB to get a touch under Martinez Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 To be fair we were much more attacking under Martinez. Attack wasn’t the problem. Our defending was about giving gifts... that was Marrinez problem. Matt, MikeO and Quinn31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He would have had to play as a CB to get a touch under Martinez That's why lukaku bagged 30 goals a season under him.... Your move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Shukes said: To be fair we were much more attacking under Martinez. Attack wasn’t the problem. Our defending was about giving gifts... that was Marrinez problem. Now we've got attacking and defending problems, where did it all go wrong.😢 Shukes and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, Palfy said: Now we've got attacking and defending problems, where did it all go wrong.😢 Panic set in early-season and we ended up with the football equivalent of herpes for a manager did i mention the mass change of personnel in a short space of time yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Panic set in early-season and we ended up with the football equivalent of herpes for a manager did i mention the mass change of personnel in a short space of time yet? You may have hinted at it Matt, subtle though! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacitunal Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Yess Cenk! Please more services to him, especially in penalty area plaidharper, Aidan and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 He should always start. That 1-2 with Baines was exquisite. Matt and sacitunal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I think he looks a very shrewd purchase. Next season with a preseason under his belt, he could be great! sacitunal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I think he looks a very shrewd purchase. Next season with a preseason under his belt, he could be great!I agree. 2 goals in 3 starts. Sam is a buffoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 10, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I agree. 2 goals in 3 starts. Sam is a buffoon. Or he has managed him perfectly I’m not an Allardyce fan by and means but his handling of Tosun has been spot on. The lad was clearly not fit enough when he first came over and taking him out of the firing line and getting him up to speed on the training ground instead of just throwing him in at the deepens is now paying dividends StevO, Sir McGiven, rubecula and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 The lad can play. Not the quickest but he has an assured touch. Great shot on him too! tanora 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, hafnia said: The lad can play. Not the quickest but he has an assured touch. Great shot on him too! He brings others in to play beautifully, which is what we've been missing for a long time. If he carries on doing that and putting the ball in the net he will be an extremely important player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Or he has managed him perfectly I’m not an Allardyce fan by and means but his handling of Tosun has been spot on. The lad was clearly not fit enough when he first came over and taking him out of the firing line and getting him up to speed on the training ground instead of just throwing him in at the deepens is now paying dividends I don't want to hail Sam as a genius or this move as genius or correct, but yes. Not every player we sign needs to play right away for their sake of getting acclimated, even if the team desperately needed/needs a #9. 1 hour ago, hafnia said: The lad can play. Not the quickest but he has an assured touch. Great shot on him too! Agreed. This is mitigated somewhat when playing next to pacey players like Walcott and Bolasie (Would be nice to have someone more clinical than Yannick though) as well as fullbacks with mobility such as Baines and Coleman who can attack down the flank. I just wish one of our number 10's had some pace to give opponents something different/to make runs coming from behind Tosun. None of Rooney, Siggy, and Klaassen really have legs. Bailey and tanora 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanora Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm proud of him today. Great goal. https://streamable.com/ph6or Well, I have to say I was a bit disappointed when I saw him on the bench for a couple of games. %90 of the Turkish players would give up in that situation but he kept working and deserved to play in starting 11. I owe an apology to Sam. I still think he's not a great manager but he did the right thing about Cenk and I was wrong. Anyway, if something ends up well, there's nothing to complain about it. 2 goals in 2 games, first 90 minutes, first goal in home game; looks like Cenk's enjoying his time in Everton and PL nowadays. And I can say that's only the preview. Once he fully adapts there, you can expect more goals with more creativity. He was like a magician here; every time we saw a different trick and he scored better/harder goals each time. You'll see that too. Enjoy. MikeO, pete0, nutmegwolf203 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanora Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 While watching the game from the broadcast, you sometimes miss the details. After his goal & celebration, Cenk kneels down and "shines" Baines's shoe to appreciate his assist. It was a tradition here in 90's football. Nice to see him doing that (8m 20s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, tanora said: While watching the game from the broadcast, you sometimes miss the details. After his goal & celebration, Cenk kneels down and "shines" Baines's shoe to appreciate his assist. It was a tradition here in 90's football. Nice to see him doing that (8m 20s) Cheers for that I missed it whilst celebrating myself. Classic celebration from my school days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Don’t agree with this ‘Sam has managed him well’. Who knows what would have happened if Sam had stated him from the off. He was playing champions league football and doing well in that competition. I’d say he would have scored a few more goals than he’s got now! Sam clearly didn’t rate him and now has to eat some humble pie (not that he’ll struggle eating pie). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Or he has managed him perfectly I’m not an Allardyce fan by and means but his handling of Tosun has been spot on. The lad was clearly not fit enough when he first came over and taking him out of the firing line and getting him up to speed on the training ground instead of just throwing him in at the deepens is now paying dividends Wasn't there a report that Crooked Sam wanted to sell him back to Turkey? If so, his handling was not spot on at all. nyblue23 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Wasn't there a report that Crooked Sam wanted to sell him back to Turkey? If so, his handling was not spot on at all. So because it suits your agenda every report you read is true. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think he has been managed well to be fair. We all saw his first appearance, and he didn’t seem up to the pace of the premier league. A few weeks later he looks like he is going to be the striker we have been looking for. Goals, good shot, clever and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I'm not a big fan of fat Sam but the fella will never win. He took him out the side and eased him back in. We now see the benefits. I'm my eyes that's good management, whether through sheer luck or shrewdness... That's debatable, but he must take some of the plaudits. Like he takes the flack for the rest of the shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I'd say that throwing him in against a Spurs side where we only lumped long balls to him probably wasn' good management, especially when he then left him out of games where we were going to have a lot more control. I also don' think talking about him in the press like he did was great management. We are just lucky that Walsh did a good job scouting this fella and his mentality. He is a fighter and he has shown that. nyblue23, nutmegwolf203, sacitunal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacitunal Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 “Both wingers are really good and send in excellent crosses. We talked about it before the match, they said to me, ‘If we have the ball, just get in the box and we will cross to you’.” CENK TOSUN This is the key. Everton can buy Oğuzhan Özyakup from Besiktas former Arsenal player..He can help Everton in the middle..some paper says Özyakup talked with Newcaste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanora Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 hours ago, sacitunal said: Everton can buy Oğuzhan Özyakup from Besiktas former Arsenal player..He can help Everton in the middle..some paper says Özyakup talked with Newcaste. 3 years ago, Beşiktaş formed a great team from a group young players and as Sacit says, Oğuzhan was one of the core players with Cenk. I found a video of an old match which they played together. http://tr.beinsports.com/lig/spor-toto-super-lig/ozet/2015-2016/1/mersin-idman-yurdu-2-5-besiktas-mac-ozeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Would be nice to link him up with a player he knows well. Can’t wait till he hits his first hat trick for us! sacitunal and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think as long as we have some possession and don't hoof balls up to him all the time, he'll be fine. His hold-up and link-up play have both looked great the past couple matches. It doesn't seem like he needs great crossing as much as he just needs to not be isolated constantly. sacitunal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Reminds me of Tim Cahill in the air. I think he will be a great player for us especially if we can get some talent in midfield in the Summer. pete0 and sacitunal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 glad he’s up and running, I always had a good feeling about him. Well in cenk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 A centre forward with a balanced game. markjazzbassist and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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