StevO Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like that the Echo felt the need to clarify that Koeman doesn’t want Keane at Barcelona. Like we couldn’t work that out for ourselves. Romey 1878, barryj, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, StevO said: I like that the Echo felt the need to clarify that Koeman doesn’t want Keane at Barcelona. Like we couldn’t work that out for ourselves. They're just relieved to be publishing something that's correct. Matt, StevO, Aidan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: They're just relieved to be publishing something that's correct. Don’t say that I was hoping we’d get 80 million from Barca for him. They did mention him in the same sentence as Pique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 HITC reporting that our opening offer was around £18m, but Watford want £25m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Aidan said: HITC reporting that our opening offer was around £18m, but Watford want £25m. Here where it gets hard. Pay the £7m (Apparently) and get him in working with the squad or wait it out to save a few mil. Ideally I’d want Allan, Gomes and Doucoure working together ASAP. Gbabim to come into the fold as well - will be like signing 3 new CM’s and we could really have physical presence in the centre of the park. Cant see where Delph/Davies get minutes here. Maybe Delph to cover as LB this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Btay said: Here where it gets hard. Pay the £7m (Apparently) and get him in working with the squad or wait it out to save a few mil. Ideally I’d want Allan, Gomes and Doucoure working together ASAP. Gbabim to come into the fold as well - will be like signing 3 new CM’s and we could really have physical presence in the centre of the park. Cant see where Delph/Davies get minutes here. Maybe Delph to cover as LB this season? We seem to draw it out until last minute year in year out, but a lot of that might be also due to our targets waiting to see if they'll get a bigger club come in for them. If we are going for the midfield 3, then Davies and Delph will get game time. Delph coving LB wouldn't be the worse thing in the world for a season - as long as Digne doesn't get a long term injury. More importantly, minus Gabriel the lack of links to CB is worrying, its a priority IMO - Keane just isn't good enough and Holgate is still developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Aidan said: We seem to draw it out until last minute year in year out, but a lot of that might be also due to our targets waiting to see if they'll get a bigger club come in for them. If we are going for the midfield 3, then Davies and Delph will get game time. Delph coving LB wouldn't be the worse thing in the world for a season - as long as Digne doesn't get a long term injury. More importantly, minus Gabriel the lack of links to CB is worrying, its a priority IMO - Keane just isn't good enough and Holgate is still developing. Couldn't agree more, we are in a peculiar position of trying to attract talent above our level so we either have to offer them big pay packets or get in while interest is relatively low. I can see what you are saying, Delph and Allan are a similar mould of player. Delph was meant to be a high energy, tenacious midfielder who can provide a bit on the ball but instead we got a false hardman, pointing and blaming everyone else but himself. Id have no issue with him covering at LB but if Leeds end up inquiring id be getting rid of and looking at Ricardo Rodriguez for a season. Davies needs to rotate with Gomes but im just not convinced after this season, maybe he will come into his own in a 3 with 2 quality mids providing some presence. Gbamim covers Allan but i dont see him playing as vertically as Allan does, more horizontal cover & stepping in as a CB when fullbacks bomb on. Doucoure starts and id like to see Iwobi cover for him and cover for RW/RF depends how you look at the 4-3-3. No place for gylfi, not sure where Bernard is going to fit in either as he just does not produce enough of a goal threat. Richarlison DCL Ocampos Doucoure Gomes Allan Digne Mina Holgate Kenny Pickford Bernard Kean Gordon Davies Iwobi Gbamim Delph Braithewaite Keane Coleman Lossl/Virginia Means Gylfi, Walcott, Tosun, Sandro, Besic, Bolasie, Baningime & Pennington surplus in the current first team. Question marks of our CB's definitely Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Delph is utter shite. The term left back should only be applied to him in terms of left back at fucking home. Are you lot insane? StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 That Guardiola must be a no-nothing cunt then as Delph played almost 100 games for City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Makis said: That Guardiola must be a no-nothing cunt then as Delph played almost 100 games for City. John oshea played 100s of games for SAF, he knew his place and did what he was asked. He moved to Sunderland as a leader and wasn't up to scratch. Delph knew his place at man city, he's come to little old Everton on a juicy retirement contract and swaggers round thinking he's the big one.... he's a problem. Get rid, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 That does not make him shite. I'm f***ng sick of people with no clue calling players shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Makis said: That does not make him shite. I'm f***ng sick of people with no clue calling players shite. It’s what he has shown on the football pitch, in matches for Everton, which is why people think he’s shite. He hasn’t shown once for Everton he is good enough. He may have done a good job for Pep at City, but that’s not what we’ve seen at Everton so why should we think any different? barryj, Hafnia and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 I think its a bit lazy to say Delph can play LB based on what he did at City. City full backs spend more time in midfield than they do actually defending in a back 4 and when Delph did defend he made mistakes. If he was right footed he wouldn't have played at City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Even if he could play full back he’d only manage a handful of games as he’s almost always injured. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Makis said: That does not make him shite. I'm f***ng sick of people with no clue calling players shite. A footballer can have all the ability in the world..... kicking a ball to the opposition with one minute left when 1 goal up makes him shite in my book among other stupid arrogant acts. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 So basically every player in the world is shite because I'm sure everyone has made a bad mistake in their career. You just haven't seen them. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Makis said: That does not make him shite. I'm f***ng sick of people with no clue calling players shite. He went to City to boost their “homegrown” quota, simple as. He did fill in when others were injured but that’s about it. Since he came he’s been either injured, irresponsible or awful. Now I know I’m biased because I didn’t want him in the first place (for exactly the reasons I’ve quoted) on top of not rating him. It’s a bit like profanity; you can choose to dislike certain words and even be upset by them, but shite, poo, awful all end up with the same meaning. as for this lad... I don’t know. Seems like a motd player from what little I’ve seen of him. But then again, I don’t watch the opposition when I’m watching Everton unless someone is doing something exceptional. Our scouts are paid for that and we’ve been following him for a while. I’d like to see us offer £50 upfront for him and Sarr with a bunch of add-ons that include CL. If those 2 help get there, the clauses should be paid because they’ll have made us better. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Makis said: So basically every player in the world is shite because I'm sure everyone has made a bad mistake in their career. You just haven't seen them. Bad mistake? Have you watched him for us??? Telling holgate to have some respect cos he gave him a few home truths on the pitch.... arguing with fans, conceding the ball to Newcastle leading to their equaliser. He's got a piss poor big time Charlie attitude and he's picking up a fortune. Awful signing. Romey 1878, Matt and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 I'm not a fan of his but some of the reaction on here is way OTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Think Doucoure is being priced out of a move and may have to start throwing his toys out of the pram in order to force a way out of the Championship club. There are rumours from France that personal terms have been agreed. He was rumoured to be valued at £30m last season, if true how on earth have they valued him £5m more since last year! No way will we pay £35m and need to move on to other targets if they dont want to play fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 I think we’ll get him, but late in the transfer window when Watford start being realistic or he kicks up a fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Watford are run by absolute idiots. I actually dislike dealing with them. I'm indifferent to this lad, I assume he is a specific type of player that Carlo has identified. Allan, Doucoure and Gomes as a trio... how will that work? Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, StevO said: I think we’ll get him, but late in the transfer window when Watford start being realistic or he kicks up a fuss. i'm thinking this as well. deadline day, they fold for 25m or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Watford are run by absolute idiots. I actually dislike dealing with them. I'm indifferent to this lad, I assume he is a specific type of player that Carlo has identified. Allan, Doucoure and Gomes as a trio... how will that work? I don’t know but I’d love to be able to give it ago. StevO, Hafnia and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Palfy said: I don’t know but I’d love to be able to give it ago. Got to be better than what we've got. Too slow and too weak at the moment. Worst midfield I've seen since pembridge gemmil & co Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Got to be better than what we've got. Too slow and too weak at the moment. Worst midfield I've seen since pembridge gemmil & co I’d say most unbalanced than worst. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Palfy said: I don’t know but I’d love to be able to give it ago. This! I hope you see a nice mix of athleticism, tenacity, aggression and some quality on the ball. All three are different type of midfielder, could be a great combination of the three. Or it could be terrible. Matt, Palfy, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, StevO said: This! I hope you see a nice mix of athleticism, tenacity, aggression and some quality on the ball. All three are different type of midfielder, could be a great combination of the three. Or it could be terrible. One thing is for sure we can't have a slow, hide and seek trio that we've seen. Gomes needs to understand that the manager is trying to find the right mix to get the best from him. Allan will be the leader is my guess. Fingers crossed. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Hafnia said: Watford are run by absolute idiots. I actually dislike dealing with them. I'm indifferent to this lad, I assume he is a specific type of player that Carlo has identified. Allan, Doucoure and Gomes as a trio... how will that work? Here come Everton again, rub their hands in glee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 We also have bgamin so its not a disaster if we don't get him. Allan, Gomes, and Bgamin might be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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