Cornish Steve Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Feel free to share this petition with any other fans you know. https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-sam-allardyce-as-manager-of-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 I don't believe in sacking managers every two months. This isn'tt the fucking Greek league. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 He isn'ttt going to be sacked. We were 13th in the table when he took over and are now 10th, 5 points off 7th (likely Europa place). Yes, the football is shit, and yes, I also don't like him as manager, but the fact is he's not going to be sacked, and certainly not because of an online petition. If he leaves it'll be in the summer, at the earliest. rubecula and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: I don't believe in sacking managers every two months. This isn'tttt the fucking Greek league. I'm usually of the same mind, but this situation is different. It's pretty obvious that there is no fit here at all, and not acting now will involve us in an ugly relegation battle. There are times when quick and decisive action is needed. There's no shame in admitting a mistake, but there's much blame in refusing to act and suffering badly as a result. Matt and chalkpie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: I'm usually of the same mind, but this situation is different. It's pretty obvious that there is no fit here at all, and not acting now will involve us in an ugly relegation battle. There are times when quick and decisive action is needed. There's no shame in admitting a mistake, but there's much blame in refusing to act and suffering badly as a result. Doubt it. I think we'll only need 36-38 to survive. Even we can get a few wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Sam is killing the club with his negative tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Quinn31 said: I don't believe in sacking managers every two months. This isn'ttt the fucking Greek league. I don' believe in paying people £150k a week to do a shite job and accept no responsibility. Blueherts, nyblue23, MikeO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueherts Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 I'd rather lee or shakespeare were left in charge for the remaining games of the season than have this disgrace at the club a minute longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, hafnia said: I don' believe in paying people £150k a week to do a shite job and accept no responsibility. Okay, so you would honestly sack him right now if you were running the club? If so, what message does that send whoever you'd be targeting to take over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 As if this season couldn't get anymore dysfunctional, a petition to get another manager sacked. Fuck. Me. With just 2 thirds of the season gone, we want a 4th manager!!! Somebody turn the lights out. Paddock and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Quinn31 said: Okay, so you would honestly sack him right now if you were running the club? If so, what message does that send whoever you'd be targeting to take over? Yes and the message is..... hold yourself accountable for your own shite decisions - blame the players if they are the only issue but when you are in the wrong.... admit you are wrong. Allardyce has lost that dressing room. The number of players doing that "talking with hands over their mouths" at the end was telling. He's an arrogant man who in my opinion isn'tt doing the job he's paid for. Too many of them about. As for the players.... well there are a few of those too. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 11 hours ago, hafnia said: Yes and the message is..... hold yourself accountable for your own shite decisions - blame the players if they are the only issue but when you are in the wrong.... admit you are wrong. Allardyce has lost that dressing room. The number of players doing that "talking with hands over their mouths" at the end was telling. He's an arrogant man who in my opinion isn'ttt doing the job he's paid for. Too many of them about. As for the players.... well there are a few of those too. Disagree; he never had it but that's not his fault. The squad were labelled as relegation fodder by the owner, that kick to the stomach for a team devoid of confidence was fatal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The team only have themselves to blame. We're on manager number 3, think it's time to look at the gang of shit houses. Gana, Schneiderlin, and Keane haven't got any fucking fire in them. Give them half the bottle of Coleman and we'd concede a lot less. McCarthy done more on his own thanthe sum of Gana and Schneiderlin, just shows how much difference attitude makes at this level. Fuck them right off. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, pete0 said: The team only have themselves to blame. We're on manager number 3, think it's time to look at the gang of shit houses. Gana, Schneiderlin, and Keane haven't got any fucking fire in them. Give them half the bottle of Coleman and we'd concede a lot less. McCarthy done more on his own thanthe sum of Gana and Schneiderlin, just shows how much difference attitude makes at this level. Fuck them right off. Agree. The problem lies with certain players as well as the manager. With the money they earn, no player should allow themselves to be accused of 'not trying'. pete0 and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, pete0 said: The team only have themselves to blame. We're on manager number 3, think it's time to look at the gang of shit houses. Gana, Schneiderlin, and Keane haven't got any fucking fire in them. Give them half the bottle of Coleman and we'd concede a lot less. McCarthy done more on his own thanthe sum of Gana and Schneiderlin, just shows how much difference attitude makes at this level. Fuck them right off. This. I'm not at all impressed with Allardyce and hope he's off in the summer, but we are on manager number 3. So many of these lads just don't put in extra challenges, don't chase down lost causes, don't go for 50/50s and most importantly, none of them seem to want to play with any intensity and pace and just go directly at the opponent. Our entire team looks at each other waiting for someone else to play a forward pass, someone else to take a shot on... I'm afraid unless we change a lot of the composition of the squad or see a change in attitude in a lot of them, no manager is going to get much out of this squad. Under Moyes, our squad was much smaller, but there was a core group of players who set the expectation that maximum effort and workrate was the expectation of the club (Neville, Cahill, Arteta, Baines in example). Now, I think the squad is much bigger and there is no core leadership to rally the squad together and set a standard that all must abide by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 We all know who the players who aren't performing are. Allardyce is absolutely to blame for picking them. Why is Keane in over Holgate all of a sudden? Why not give Garbutt a go instead of Martina? Why is Schneiderlin even at the club still? Our victories have come when a certain core of players have played. It's really, really fucking obvious. nyblue23 and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bailey Posted February 4, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: This. I'm not at all impressed with Allardyce and hope he's off in the summer, but we are on manager number 3. So many of these lads just don't put in extra challenges, don't chase down lost causes, don't go for 50/50s and most importantly, none of them seem to want to play with any intensity and pace and just go directly at the opponent. Our entire team looks at each other waiting for someone else to play a forward pass, someone else to take a shot on... I'm afraid unless we change a lot of the composition of the squad or see a change in attitude in a lot of them, no manager is going to get much out of this squad. Under Moyes, our squad was much smaller, but there was a core group of players who set the expectation that maximum effort and workrate was the expectation of the club (Neville, Cahill, Arteta, Baines in example). Now, I think the squad is much bigger and there is no core leadership to rally the squad together and set a standard that all must abide by. I think a lot of it is to do with confidence. Look at the Watford and West Ham game, we were nervy until we scored the first, then the intensity picked up, players were more confident on the ball, took more responsibility and slowly the performance picked up. Against Leicester we were shocking to start off with but we got a goal and looked a lot more composed until they scored and then we shat ourselves again. I remember Unsy repeatedly saying that the players just needed to start believing in themselves and I think that's key. If your confident you go into a 50/50 expecting to win it. If you aren't confident you go into a 60/40 and expect to lose. Thats why I think it was absolute madness to change the formation in the way he did and switch so many players around. Players become unsure of what they arent meant to be doing, where they should be, who they should be covering, that creates doubt and then that doubt tears away any confidence the players had from midweek. Wiggytop, nutmegwolf203, Matt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Yes and the message is..... hold yourself accountable for your own shite decisions - blame the players if they are the only issue but when you are in the wrong.... admit you are wrong. Allardyce has lost that dressing room. The number of players doing that "talking with hands over their mouths" at the end was telling. He's an arrogant man who in my opinion isn'ttt doing the job he's paid for. Too many of them about. As for the players.... well there are a few of those too. Fuck me Haf every player on the box covers their mouth when chatting on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 18:39, Newty82 said: As if this season couldn't get anymore dysfunctional, a petition to get another manager sacked. Fuck. Me. With just 2 thirds of the season gone, we want a 4th manager!!! Somebody turn the lights out. If Conte can get the sack, so can Sam the Fatt Fuckin Pigg. He's useless, he's disgusting, he's arrogant, he's negative, he's shady, he fuckin' sucks, he probably smells like plastic fish, and he's got a nasty red pus shanker next to his mouth. Next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Not sure who we can get to replace him to be honest, but I do not think it matters, no manager would be good enough now with too many layers above him. No manager could fix it now leave it until we get sorted is n odd way to look at it, but it is all I can suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Go all out for Rafa he's got the class and the pedigree we need, he would be a good draw for the quality players we want at this club. Whilst the Newcastle sale may or may not happen he must be feeling unsettled, could be the right time to take a punt. StevO, Quinn31, Gwlad and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Palfy said: Go all out for Rafa he's got the class and the pedigree we need, he would be a good draw for the quality players we want at this club. Whilst the Newcastle sale may or may not happen he must be feeling unsettled, could be the right time to take a punt. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 would he actually consider coming here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 FFS, no. Benitez is not good enough either! How the fuck, in a time where Everton actually have wealth, a prosperous academy, a new stadium on the horizon, is it such a depressing time?! nyblue23, Newty82, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt said: FFS, no. Benitez is not good enough either! How the fuck, in a time where Everton actually have wealth, a prosperous academy, a new stadium on the horizon, is it such a depressing time?! amen i don't want benitez either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt said: FFS, no. Benitez is not good enough either! How the fuck, in a time where Everton actually have wealth, a prosperous academy, a new stadium on the horizon, is it such a depressing time?! Cos Everton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Cos Everton! Desperately want to neg that, but it’s too damn true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Matt said: FFS, no. Benitez is not good enough either! How the fuck, in a time where Everton actually have wealth, a prosperous academy, a new stadium on the horizon, is it such a depressing time?! Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Palfy said: Wrong It's not a depressing time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Matt said: It's not a depressing time? Yes it is completely, I think you're wrong about Benitez as you well know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.