Newty82 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Oh hello. Did someone say they are fingering a dyke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Oh hello. Did someone say they are fingering a dyke? Â Probably not, we have no active female members so the likelihood is small. Unless someone is pretending . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Â Probably not, we have no active female members so the likelihood is small. Unless someone is pretending . Oh. I'm off then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Â as my old boss used to say "i'd like a smaller nose and a full head of hair, some things just aren't possible son" its absolutely possible! Just very much more complex and expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Three points for Liverpool stadium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 The Blue Dome sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2017/03/30/the-cunning-scheme-aimed-at-securing-a-new-stadium-for-everton-fc/ Â A Liverpool University lecturerer blogs abot the Council's involvement in the scheme and compares it to parents on their child's mortgage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2017/03/30/the-cunning-scheme-aimed-at-securing-a-new-stadium-for-everton-fc/ Â A Liverpool University lecturerer blogs abot the Council's involvement in the scheme and compares it to parents on their child's mortgage. Â meanwhile in america (6 times larger population) the city council are involved in helping to secure funding for every stadium/arena etc because they understand the importance of that to growth and regeneration in the cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Studies seem to indicate that in the US cities never get their money back. So it has more to do with politics than money. Politicians fear they might lose voters if clubs leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Studies seem to indicate that in the US cities never get their money back. So it has more to do with politics than money. Politicians fear they might lose voters if clubs leave. Â that's because in the US they build stadiums every 20 years. If they built them every 50 or 100 like in Europe i guarantee those stats would turn round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 They build them often because the clubs basically blackmail the cities. But it's hard to say, John Oliver of all people had a funny but informative piece on that on his show two years ago. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) They build them often because the clubs basically blackmail the cities. But it's hard to say, John Oliver of all people had a funny but informative piece on that on his show two years ago. Â Â that doesn't have anything to do with the city getting growth and revenue from it. The teams in america come and go as they please as businesses not tied to the cities they reside in. i don't agree with it but it is how it is. Â my local team won the NBA championship, every game for the last i don't know how many years is sold out, people staying downtown at hotels, restaturants, bars. 1.3 million people downtown for their victory parade. i find it hard to believe the city is mad about any of that. Â lastly: john oliver is not a journalist, he has said so many times, he's a comedian. i enjoy him and he highlights great issues, but he's not a journalist bound to the facts. Edited April 3, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 That piece mentioned studies that show that those stadiums don't bring revenue. Just check the video out, it has examples. If you want the quick version, start from 11:00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 That piece mentioned studies that show that those stadiums don't bring revenue. Just check the video out, it has examples. If you want the quick version, start from 11:00. Â i understand and i've seen the video and i've seen the reports. i live in america. every time a new stadium is built the reports are brought out. but like i said they give the life span of 20-25 years for the stadiums, if cities let them stay longer (like fenway, wrigley, soldier field, etc) i guarantee they make money for the city. it's the 20-25 year limit that is holding the profits for the city back. give it a few more years and it's in the black instead of the red. Â that's why i explained it's a good move for liverpool, because everton plans on being there a long time, not 20 years so those studies are bunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I don't even know what you are arguing about. Those stadiums are not around longer and in the meantime cities pay tens of millions per year to finance them while all the income goes to the teams. Â I don't know why they are even brought into this thread as they have no relevance whatsoever. You claimed they are brought in because they regenerate areas. It looks like the cities would be wiser to use that same money to directly help regeneration rather than lining the pockets of team owners exactly because in about 25 years the same owners who made hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to their free stadium are demanding a new one or they relocate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I don't even know what you are arguing about. Those stadiums are not around longer and in the meantime cities pay tens of millions per year to finance them while all the income goes to the teams. Â I don't know why they are even brought into this thread as they have no relevance whatsoever. You claimed they are brought in because they regenerate areas. It looks like the cities would be wiser to use that same money to directly help regeneration rather than lining the pockets of team owners exactly because in about 25 years the same owners who made hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to their free stadium are demanding a new one or they relocate. Â you've missed my point 3 times now. you said they don't make financial sense for cities. i said all the studies on that are only with 20-25 year life of stadium. everton stadium will be for longer. therefore said investment COULD make financial sense for the city to invest. please don't miss it a 4th time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Why do you bring US teams into this at all? That's what I wonder because they have nothing to do with European teams. In our case even less so. Everton will pay the council, not the other way around. Everton isn't threatening to relocate. The stadium is planned for the next 100 years. Â But worse still, you claimed the politicians do this because they understand it's somehow financially viable. Now you admitted they are not. Â You use an example that has absolutely nothing to do with Everton and the City of Liverpool to try to make a point and you wonder why I keep missing your point? You might as well use 2022 World Cup stadiums as an example for all its worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 You are both making sense with what you are both saying, you pair of fuck nuts. Â Take the blinkers off and read each others posts properly. Â *Slap* Â *Slap* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Nice coincidence, just spotted this on my Facebook feed: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2017/03/27/las_vegas_lures_the_oakland_raiders_with_a_record_breaking_taxpayer_subsidy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 You are both making sense with what you are both saying, you pair of fuck nuts. Â Take the blinkers off and read each others posts properly. Â *Slap* Â *Slap* Â David Moyes will be quoting you as a legal precedent. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Â David Moyes will be quoting you as a legal precedent. Â He really won't help his cause!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 https://twitter.com/meisarch/status/849714997332766721  Decent article he's responding to as well   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10719054 Â https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/gmhVcnb4iMubLDB1zAZ_N3L1M1CSiLbh0aLsiDoxLo0/application-pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Still not happening this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10719054 Â https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/gmhVcnb4iMubLDB1zAZ_N3L1M1CSiLbh0aLsiDoxLo0/application-pdf Second link won't open for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 me neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Someone has kindly corrected the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 I am finally getting slightly excited, and I can't wait for the artist's renditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Ok what does that mean to the less intelligent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Ok what does that mean to the less intelligent? Setting up these Limited companies is another step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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