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20 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

What's the betting we don't make a single signing today? :lol: 

Considering the window, I’d still be very happy except the missing CB 

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Sheffield United and Fulham are trying to land Everton midfielder Muhamed Besic, according to Sky sources.

Sky Sports News understands the 26-year-old Bosnia international would prefer to remain in the Premier League if possible. 

 

this is promising :)

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Bit overly dramatic for me, think we've done OK even if nothing else happens; I'm certainly not panicking...

Latest thoughts from Dave Downie, The Blue Room Podcast: "There’s a bit of tension amongst Evertonians with silence being defeating in regards to a move for any other potential wingers.

"Enthusiasm for Marcos Rojo potentially arriving as the central defender Marco Silva earmarked as a priority hasn’t exactly been overwhelming, not least because opportunities to secure targets who aren’t as injury prone as the Argentinian have failed to materialise.

"At it stands, it appears Everton have left themselves with too much to do in such little time. It’s disappointing as there appears to be a chance to capitalise on the malaise and struggles of clubs who finished above the Blues last season.

"There’s a time for calm and a time for panic - I think Everton, or at least Evertonians, have just crossed over to the latter.

"Director of football Marcel Brands has been lauded for his work at the club over the last year with recruitment. Let’s hope the suavely coifed Dutchman has one more trick up his sleeve."

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My only concern is the lack of centre back cover. I’m not keen on the idea of Rojo but will trust that Brands/Silva know better if something happens here. I’d be massively optimistic about the season ahead if we had kept hold of Zouma or signed equivalent quality but, as it stands, I think we’ve left ourselves short.

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22 minutes ago, c1982 said:

My only concern is the lack of centre back cover. I’m not keen on the idea of Rojo but will trust that Brands/Silva know better if something happens here. I’d be massively optimistic about the season ahead if we had kept hold of Zouma or signed equivalent quality but, as it stands, I think we’ve left ourselves short.

This for me. “Only” missing a CB but otherwise a very productive window. They better get started on a replacement in January though. 

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Await the standard 'after the deadline' confirmation we seem to be involved in every window... But I'm not at all disappointed by our business this summer. Let's not forget that Gbamin is meant to be able to play CB as well as midfield. So while it's odd we haven't got an out-and-out replacement for Zouma, I don't see us being short there, with Holgate plus the U23 options there's plenty of cover for Keane and Mina. Let's just hope they develop a good partnership quickly. 

Bit gutted about Zaha tbh, he could have been the x-factor signing that made us a threat to the top four. I think Iwobi is a decent player but not in the same league. Reckon there'll be a big onus on him and Richarlison to score us goals in a front three. Interested to see what Silva will do in midfield - Delph/Gbamin, Gomes and Sigurdsson as first choice presumably? 

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5 minutes ago, nogs said:

Await the standard 'after the deadline' confirmation we seem to be involved in every window... But I'm not at all disappointed by our business this summer. Let's not forget that Gbamin is meant to be able to play CB as well as midfield

yep this for me.  happy with the window 

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I dunno where I'm at lads. Got to be honest. So slap me down to earth if need be.

I'm not unhappy. I just think we could have done more. And just feel there was a hint of old Everton panic at the end, which Id hoped to see the end of. I dunno.

Happy with Kean. He seems to be our No1 striker. That s a lot to out on a young man. New country. New league. New language. Limited experience. Talented, no doubt. Needs to be given a fair chance to settle.

Happy with Gbamin. But let's not forget he replaces a key man. Again, time to settle etc.

Delph could be a good useful player.

Forgetting the lads name as I write...the right back...useful addition.

So I'm happy. But it doesn't feel like the leap we might have expected. Again...I dunno.

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1 minute ago, Peter H said:

Just going to bump this. Did we end up spending any money at all this summer?

MJB was toting it all up. Must be around £50-70m I reckon even after sales. 

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I'm generally happy with the window,  we're not the only club to have linked with moves that haven't happened. 6 new signings will need time to settle in and gel with the existing squad, would have liked Zouma here permantly, but if he's not available that's that for now, glad we didn't get stung for £100, on Zaha, I think there's better players out there for that money, and I hope we've side swerved Rojo and Smalling   permanently as I don't think either are good enough to take us forward, and I wonder if he really did make bids for them. If Iwobi does happen I'll be OK with the hat for £30m - feck ! Being happy with £30m, it's all gone mad this window, how much would Pickford Siggy or Richarlison be worth now! 

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6 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

A relief not to have been held to ransom on TDD. Disappointing not to have got Zouma but plenty to be excited about with the new signings I think. COYB. 

Agree. I'm sure we are all a little disappointed that we didn't add a CB and/or winger today. But, if we had landed Zaha and Rojo and spent 100-120M doing it, I think many would be unhappy feeling we let teams bend us over. we 

Based on nothing, I think Brands did try to get Zaha, but likely told CP we wanted him, but we didn't "need" him at any cost, so piss off - see ya Saturday. I'll call you in January, and ask how things are in the relegation zone - is Wilford enjoying his football this year?

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15 minutes ago, Peter H said:

Just going to bump this. Did we end up spending any money at all this summer?

 

13 minutes ago, Matt said:

MJB was toting it all up. Must be around £50-70m I reckon even after sales. 

 

IN: Lossl, Gomes, Delph, Gbamin, Kean, Sidibe
OUT: Vlasic, Galloway, Robinson, Sambou, Lookman, Gana, J Williams, McCarthy 
LOAN IN: 
LOAN OUT: Kenny, Sandro, Adedoyin, Dowell, JVirginia, Garbutt, Tarashaj, Bowler, Broadhead
YOUTH: Sebastian Kristensen
YOUTH pro deals: Ryan Astley, Kyle John, Anthony Gordon, Ellis Simms, Joe Anderson, Einar Iversen, Nicolas Hansen, Kieran Phillips, Korede Adedoyin, Mackenzie Hunt
CONTRACT EXT: Davies, Foulds, Ouzounidis, Baines, Mampala, Bowler, Broadhead

OFFICIALLY RELEASED: Jags(SheffieldUtd), A Williams, Lavery(Linfield), Hewelt(Meidz Legnica), JHilton(Blackburn), Charsley, Mathis(Rodez), Kiersey(Walsall), Bramall, Renshaw

Spent: 82.5m

Received: 75.5m

 

That doesn't include Iwobi who has been quoted at 30m-40m.  Besic sale to Sheff outstanding as well.  Loans for a bunch of other players to the continent forthcoming till the end of their window i would imagine (mirallas, bolasie, etc)

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I just think fourth place is going begging this year but I don’t think we’ve done enough to break into that with the signings  we’ve made. I’m happy with our incomings don’t get me wrong but with Zouma and gana gone are we going to be a better team/squad? We’ve signed a potential superstar upfront granted but you can’t expect him to bag 30 goals this season. Like Romey said on other thread we can just score more goals than the opposition. Arsenal, uniteds and Chelsea’s back lines aren’t great but the firepower arsenal have and uniteds isn’t to bad. Not sure if we are going to have enough in us 

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Iwobi signed for 35M not sure about that one? would rather a solid CB I think not replacing Zouma could be our downfall. 

But we should see a lot more goals scored just need to replicate last seasons clean sheets. 

Tosun and Niasse are finished now and I can’t see DCL being in front of Kean or Iwobi.  

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3 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

I wouldn’t think it’s that considerable 

McCarthy, Jags, Gana and Williams the big wages off the bill. The released lads and loans probably add up to Delph and Lossls wages. That means all the other new players aren’t really balanced out. I’m not counting Sandro either, because no one is going to be meeting his wage packet. 

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4 minutes ago, Matt said:

Looking at the list though, we’ve added considerably to the wage bill. 

more reasonable though, the wages mentioned for the new players are more like under the Moyes structure where i saw kean or gbamin on only 55k a week, this is good work by Brands to get those wages back in line.  So yes overall more, but player to player a lower amount per player due to better negotiating.

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Just now, markjazzbassist said:

more reasonable though, the wages mentioned for the new players are more like under the Moyes structure where i saw kean or gbamin on only 55k a week, this is good work by Brands to get those wages back in line.  So yes overall more, but player to player a lower amount per player due to better negotiating.

I saw for Kean, but no way is that going to be his wage for long. I’m sure there’ll be an incremental increase over the years. 

Yes, player by player it might look better but we pay the bill as a whole each month. Considering your worries about FFP, I’m surprised you’re so relaxed. 

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Just now, Matt said:

I saw for Kean, but no way is that going to be his wage for long. I’m sure there’ll be an incremental increase over the years. 

Yes, player by player it might look better but we pay the bill as a whole each month. Considering your worries about FFP, I’m surprised you’re so relaxed. 

well after adding in all the players i missed (sorry guys!) our net spend was 10m, that's nothing.  The Zaha one was scaring me, 70m.  i expect the leftover dead wood to be loaned to the continent which will help too.  i'm very happy about every new player not getting 100k+ like under walsh.  Brands is frugal wage wise more like Moyes.  Sure the wage bill increases but we lose a significant amount of the deadwood to end of contracts this summer.  If besic is sold another is gone for good too.  

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5 minutes ago, Ghoat said:

Agree. I'm sure we are all a little disappointed that we didn't add a CB and/or winger today. But, if we had landed Zaha and Rojo and spent 100-120M doing it, I think many would be unhappy feeling we let teams bend us over. we 

Based on nothing, I think Brands did try to get Zaha, but likely told CP we wanted him, but we didn't "need" him at any cost, so piss off - see ya Saturday. I'll call you in January, and ask how things are in the relegation zone - is Wilford enjoying his football this year?

I think the first paragraph is key. We were much more settled this year compared to last year and therefore we didnt "need" any players aside from the two loan players being replaced. We got one of those and didnt replace the other and that will be the disappointment however I would rather we didnt get anyone than spunk £20+mil on a player like Rojo. Holgate and Gibson will have to stand up and be counted upon when they are needed, at least up until January. Hopefully Zouma is then back in the reserves and we can pick him up cheaply and all will be well with the world again.

The same applies to the wide players. We have enough players who can cover (assuming Iwobi doesnt sign) but it would be good to have that extra man. Iwobi is a poor mans Zaha in terms of cost and whilst I think the latter would give us more chance of getting more points I dont think Iwobi is "that" far off him and whilst it might take a couple of years to get to that level but he does have a lot more top level experience than Zaha.

Its been another very good window, albeit I do think we have taken a bit of a risk by not getting another CB in.

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2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

 

 

IN: Lossl, Gomes, Delph, Gbamin, Kean
OUT: Vlasic, Galloway, Robinson, Sambou, Lookman, Gana, J Williams 
LOAN IN: 
LOAN OUT: Kenny, Sandro, Adedoyin, Dowell, JVirginia, Garbutt, Tarashaj, Bowler, Broadhead
YOUTH: Sebastian Kristensen
YOUTH pro deals: Ryan Astley, Kyle John, Anthony Gordon, Ellis Simms, Joe Anderson, Einar Iversen, Nicolas Hansen, Kieran Phillips, Korede Adedoyin, Mackenzie Hunt
CONTRACT EXT: Davies, Foulds, Ouzounidis, Baines, Mampala, Bowler, Broadhead

OFFICIALLY RELEASED: Jags(SheffieldUtd), A Williams, Lavery(Linfield), Hewelt(Meidz Legnica), JHilton(Blackburn), Charsley, Mathis(Rodez), Kiersey(Walsall), Bramall, Renshaw

Spent: 82.5m

Received: 67.5m

 

That doesn't include Iwobi who has been quoted at 30m-40m.  regardless, we DID spend money this summer from the kitty not just sales.

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK

For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

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Just now, Ghoat said:

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK

For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

We sell besic for £5 mill and add in McCarthy £8.5 mill that’s even better 

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1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

well after adding in all the players i missed (sorry guys!) our net spend was 10m, that's nothing.  The Zaha one was scaring me, 70m.  i expect the leftover dead wood to be loaned to the continent which will help too.  i'm very happy about every new player not getting 100k+ like under walsh.  Brands is frugal wage wise more like Moyes.  Sure the wage bill increases but we lose a significant amount of the deadwood to end of contracts this summer.  If besic is sold another is gone for good too.  

I had to question your maths there but nope, pretty much spot on. That really is exceptional work.

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3 minutes ago, Ghoat said:

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK

For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

i have since updated, our net spend currently is 7m.  But that doesn't include Iwobi buy or Besic Sale/Loan.  So it could be more.  

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Just now, Finn balor said:

We sell besic for £5 mill and add in McCarthy £8.5 mill that’s even better 

And the $5M we get when Rom goes, and possible others that go in the next few weeks will bring it even lower. But for a net spend that's currently looking somewhere around $10M if nothing else changes, I'd say Brands may be in line to have a statue at the entrance. 

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Just now, Ghoat said:

And the $5M we get when Rom goes, and possible others that go in the next few weeks will bring it even lower. But for a net spend that's currently looking somewhere around $10M if nothing else changes, I'd say Brands may be in line to have a statue at the entrance. 

amount i have has Rom money in there already.

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Just now, markjazzbassist said:

amount i have has Rom money in there already.

Hell, with what we added, doing so for less than $50M is pretty amazing. And if we add Iwobi, even more so. If we can't move anyone else, and add Iwobi in addition to all the other arrivals, we're doing so for less than the price of one Icelandic midfielder.

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7 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

thank you sir, added

thank you, added it in

Sidibe is technically a loan in. 

10 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

I just think fourth place is going begging this year but I don’t think we’ve done enough to break into that with the signings  we’ve made. I’m happy with our incomings don’t get me wrong but with Zouma and gana gone are we going to be a better team/squad? We’ve signed a potential superstar upfront granted but you can’t expect him to bag 30 goals this season. Like Romey said on other thread we can just score more goals than the opposition. Arsenal, uniteds and Chelsea’s back lines aren’t great but the firepower arsenal have and uniteds isn’t to bad. Not sure if we are going to have enough in us 

I'm not sure we're good enough for fourth but I do think the signings we've made have improved us, even losing Gana and Zouma. I'm a little worried about a shaky back line, but I'm definitely hoping Mina takes a step forward this year as he gets consistent game time, and hopefully he'll even contribute some goals from the back. Gbamin and Delph are definitely a different style of player to Gana, who I rate very highly, but both seem to have the talent necessary to fill that hole.

Kean will be massive for us, I hope, and Iwobi is at least a little further along than Lookman was. Sidibe is a big improvement on Kenny as our replacement RB if Coleman goes down and does give Coleman some more competition. Add to that the fact that last year's signings have all had some time to bed in and play alongside each other and it's hard to see how we couldn't be at least a little better than last season.

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updated includes all loans/sales/rom fee etc.  only thing missing is Iwobi

 

IN: Lossl, Gomes, Delph, Gbamin, Kean
OUT: Vlasic, Galloway, Robinson, Sambou, Lookman, Gana, J Williams, McCarthy 
LOAN IN: Sidibe (option to buy)
LOAN OUT: Kenny, Sandro, Adedoyin, Dowell, JVirginia, Garbutt, Tarashaj, Bowler, Broadhead, Besic
YOUTH: Sebastian Kristensen
YOUTH pro deals: Ryan Astley, Kyle John, Anthony Gordon, Ellis Simms, Joe Anderson, Einar Iversen, Nicolas Hansen, Kieran Phillips, Korede Adedoyin, Mackenzie Hunt
CONTRACT EXT: Davies, Foulds, Ouzounidis, Baines, Mampala, Bowler, Broadhead

OFFICIALLY RELEASED: Jags(SheffieldUtd), A Williams, Lavery(Linfield), Hewelt(Meidz Legnica), JHilton(Blackburn), Charsley, Mathis(Rodez), Kiersey(Walsall), Bramall, Renshaw

Spent: 82.5m

Received: 75.5m

 

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Great business minus centerback, which could prove to be scary.

Completely reliant on Keane continuing good form and Mina coming good, both of which are shaky. After that, thinking about the cover behind them is just frightening.

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BBC..

"Signing of the summer?

I'm going for this guy! An absolute steal for Everton for 19-year-old forward Moise Kean, who has joined from Juventus.

Yours? Let me know using #bbcfootball"

 

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Pennington and Besic loaned out. Schneiderlin likely to stay with no other CM brought in. So looking for Cuco, Bolasie, Mirallas and Cenk/Niasse to leave  abroad in the next few weeks.  

Did we miss something on Connolly? Why wasn’t he sold or loaned? 

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Been at work all through TDD, but wanted to give my two pence. 

Overall a good window, but late signings mean that we could struggle to make an impact at the start of the season. 

I'm excited to see Kean play, and the same goes for Gbamin. 

The fact we had the whole window to sign a CB and waited until the end for Chelsea to mug us off with Zouma is worrying. I thought the club were better than that and last minute deals for Smalling and Rojo only make the matter worse. We will struggle defensively without a decent CB pairing. 

Also not please with Iwobi. Nothing against him as a player but what was the point in replacing Lookman for someone twice the price who might be just as good? 

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2 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Think he’s more direct and much more of a goal threat than lookman. Think he can play across the forward line which is a bonus. 

Plus, as C tormented us with, more creative than Ozil. Not a bad stat to have. 

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5 minutes ago, Peter H said:

Nope, youre way off. And we were way off a 100 mil net spend

I look forward to your calculations then :) the initial post was edited a few times as Mark corrected the post, and said he hasn’t put the Iwobi fee in. Think you need to play catch-up mate ;) 

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