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2 minutes ago, Vranny said:

I certainly wouldn’t rule out him coming here. Seems like he wants a transfer if he’s not seen as a starter at Chelsea and I don’t think there’s a whole heap separating him, Rudiger, Luiz and Christensen. 

Hasn’t Rudiger got an injury that could keep him out for a couple of months? 

Also Luiz is past his sell by date I just can’t see any manager with an ounce of sense letting  him go at this stage, unless of course we offer the sort of money they cannot refuse. 

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11 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

I keep saying it over and over, Zouma is the best CB they have.  Rudiger next and then Luiz and christensen.  Cahill is gone.  Any decent manager would keep zouma.  No way he comes here

You keep saying it, but some of the worlds best managers have disagreed. 

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

You keep saying it, but some of the worlds best managers have disagreed. 

He hadn't grown into this level until this year with us, Sarri was right to loan him because of that and because he doesn't play "Sarri Style" CB.  Lampard is not Sarri, his style can utilize the frenchmen and i think he will.  He proved with us he can be a top CB.  This next year he could grow even more given the steady game time in a good team (ie not Stoke).

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

You keep saying it, but some of the worlds best managers have disagreed. 

Prior to his loan spell, yeah. But he’s had two solid seasons now and I think Lampard will see his worth. 

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On 01/07/2019 at 23:23, StevO said:

Lampard might be different from the rest of their managers, but Azpilicueta, Luiz, Rudiger, Christianson and Cahill have all been viewed as better players than him. He might be sick if that himself by now. 

I don’t see them playing him, Rudiger plays if he’s fit and one other but I don’t think it’ll be Zouma. I think we’re 50/50. 

I also can’t spell any Chelsea players names. 

I expect they will probably want 4, (maybe 5 CBs given the number of competitions). If they have 5 "first team" CBs for 2 spots (which presumes 4 at the back) then I think it would cause a lot of headaches for Lampard. He may not see Azpilicueta as a CB though.

If Azpilicueta is seen as a CB then I think its more likely than not that one of him and Christianson will leave.

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15 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I expect they will probably want 4, (maybe 5 CBs given the number of competitions). If they have 5 "first team" CBs for 2 spots (which presumes 4 at the back) then I think it would cause a lot of headaches for Lampard. He may not see Azpilicueta as a CB though.

If Azpilicueta is seen as a CB then I think its more likely than not that one of him and Christianson will leave.

Lampard and the Chelsea coaches would have seen he was solid last season, I think Luiz could be the week link out of there CBs, he was poor last season constantly getting caught up field without the pace or stamina to get back, he’s losing his ability and he’s the wrong side of 30, I hope I’m wrong and we get Zouma if not this window then Jans. 

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5 hours ago, Palfy said:

Lampard and the Chelsea coaches would have seen he was solid last season, I think Luiz could be the week link out of there CBs, he was poor last season constantly getting caught up field without the pace or stamina to get back, he’s losing his ability and he’s the wrong side of 30, I hope I’m wrong and we get Zouma if not this window then Jans. 

I completely agree, wouldnt have Luiz anywhere near a team with ambition to win anything but if he has signed a new contract it would suggest that he is in someones plans.

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51 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

Sky Sports News reporting that Yerry Mina has been charged with misconduct in relations to the FA's betting rules.....

Guess we will be starting the season with Keane and Gibson at CB?

Is that a fine or a ban then?

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

ban, sturridge got 6 weeks but FA wanted 6 months

Well, it’ll be 6 months for us then, and probably a club fine...

1 hour ago, Sibdane said:

Amazing to me that the FA will allow clubs to advertise betting companies right on the shirt, but it's a big no-no if anyone else does anything else related to sports betting.

Hypocrites.

I wasn’t happy with an alcohol sponsor,  was livid with the gambling sponsor and then we topped it off with an addictive  game sponsor that benefits from obscene micro transactions. Goes against everything that the club stands for. I know no company is innocent but not promoting addictions would be a better way to go. EITC has enough work to do without having to deal with addicts that the club helps maintain/create through its sponsors...

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He was just what we needed once he remembered his height.

He started off the second half standing off and letting Deeney flick the ball on. The nearly got through so many times. But then Pickford made that save and he realised he can attack headers, and won everything.

Hoping he watches that back and gains confidence from it.

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He was lucky to not give a penalty away but other than that he looked surprisingly solid from what I saw, and played very well with Keane (who had a great game today).

Im still nervous as all hell when he closes someone down but, despite his ungainly (rather than clumsy) approach, I’m really excited to be proven wrong about him if he carries on like that. 

I’m also not a great fan of players getting in the oppositions faces usually, but I loved him calling the two dives out and speaking his mind. 

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I watched MOTD from last night and it really didn’t look like Mina won the ball on the penalty incident. To also have VAR look at it and not give them penalty doesn’t give me much faith in VAR. Dont get me wrong, I’m glad they never got the penalty but just doesn’t give me faith that the right decisions are being made. 

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7 hours ago, StevO said:

I watched MOTD from last night and it really didn’t look like Mina won the ball on the penalty incident. To also have VAR look at it and not give them penalty doesn’t give me much faith in VAR. Dont get me wrong, I’m glad they never got the penalty but just doesn’t give me faith that the right decisions are being made. 

I haven’t watched MOTD yet but the incident happened right in front of me and I was certain it was not a penalty when I watched it in real time

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On ‎17‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 16:55, markjazzbassist said:

GREAT WALL OF MINA,

Please tell me you aren't pronouncing his name as miner?

We all though Zouma brought the best in Keane out, but what if it was big Mick Kegger who is brought the best in Zouma out and is now making King Yerald look a belter?

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5 hours ago, aaron said:

Please tell me you aren't pronouncing his name as miner?

We all though Zouma brought the best in Keane out, but what if it was big Mick Kegger who is brought the best in Zouma out and is now making King Yerald look a belter?

?? how do you get that from my post?  i pronounce his name correctly as i can speak spanish and am not an idiot.  you brits are the ones who pronounce words ending with "a" as "er" not us americans.  vodker being a classic one.  we pronounce it vodka.  so actually i should ask you, are YOU pronouncing it correctly?

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14 hours ago, StevO said:

I watched MOTD from last night and it really didn’t look like Mina won the ball on the penalty incident. To also have VAR look at it and not give them penalty doesn’t give me much faith in VAR. Dont get me wrong, I’m glad they never got the penalty but just doesn’t give me faith that the right decisions are being made. 

He doesn't have to win the ball if they determine the contact wasn't enough for a foul. Also, I believe there is a "clear and obvious" bar that has to be met. Very similar to american football where it has to be obvious or the call on the field stands. It's possible that if a penalty had been given it would not have been overturned either.

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

?? how do you get that from my post?  i pronounce his name correctly as i can speak spanish and am not an idiot.  you brits are the ones who pronounce words ending with "a" as "er" not us americans.  vodker being a classic one.  we pronounce it vodka.  so actually i should ask you, are YOU pronouncing it correctly?

haha I presumed with "GREAT WALL OF MINA" you was rhyming Miner with China. I pronounce it Meena. I don't think ive ever heard anyone say it as vodker tbh, always been vodka, must be a southern thing that.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

....you brits are the ones who pronounce words ending with "a" as "er" not us americans.  vodker being a classic one.  we pronounce it vodka.  so actually i should ask you, are YOU pronouncing it correctly?

It's our language so how we say things is right, no argument😎.

That said I'm not understanding your point, karma and calmer both sound the same do they not? Vodka is vodka is vodka surely? If you spelt it vodker the pronunciation would still be the same even if the spelling was wrong. I'm confused.

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17 hours ago, StevO said:

I watched MOTD from last night and it really didn’t look like Mina won the ball on the penalty incident. To also have VAR look at it and not give them penalty doesn’t give me much faith in VAR. Dont get me wrong, I’m glad they never got the penalty but just doesn’t give me faith that the right decisions are being made. 

 

8 hours ago, StevO said:

Looked to me like he brought Geri down but didn’t get a touch on the ball. 

As others have said there was contact but it was a question of whether it was enough to bring the player to the ground.

Penalty or not it's still a silly and unnecessary challenge to make as he was running towards the touch line. Reminded me of Gana against Utd last year. 

2 hours ago, SpartyBlue said:

He doesn't have to win the ball if they determine the contact wasn't enough for a foul. Also, I believe there is a "clear and obvious" bar that has to be met. Very similar to american football where it has to be obvious or the call on the field stands. It's possible that if a penalty had been given it would not have been overturned either.

The last sentence is key as by the laws of the game I don't think it would as it wouldn't be clear and obvious that there wasnt enough contact to bring him down.

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2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

no they do not.  we prounce them car-muh, and call-mer.  my point exactly.  

That's wrong for a start as the "l" is silent in calm in both in the US and the UK according to this..

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/calm

...and to my ear "muh" and "mer" are identical.

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23 minutes ago, MikeO said:

That's wrong for a start as the "l" is silent in calm in both in the US and the UK according to this..

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/calm

...and to my ear "muh" and "mer" are identical.

mike you are proving my point :)  muh and mer sound very different in american english, in your fancy king's english you state they sound the same.  that's my point.  also everyone i've ever encountered in america pronounces the L in calmer and in calm.  we pronounce things differently, who woulda thought? :)

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8 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

mike you are proving my point :)  muh and mer sound very different in american english, in your fancy king's english you state they sound the same.  that's my point.  also everyone i've ever encountered in america pronounces the L in calmer and in calm.  we pronounce things differently, who woulda thought? :)

I've never heard the "l" used in calm and I've been watching American TV on and off for 50+ years, be interested to hear from other US members what they think.  

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2 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I've never heard the "l" used in calm and I've been watching American TV on and off for 50+ years, be interested to hear from other US members what they think.  

The "l" is silent, but it varies depending on your location. Like in the Southern US I wouldn't be surprised to hear a very slight "l" sound, but I've always said it silently personally.

Every one stay "cahm."

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Just now, Sibdane said:

The "l" is silent, but it varies depending on your location. Like in the Southern US I wouldn't be surprised to hear a very slight "l" sound, but I've always said it silently personally.

Every one stay "cahm."

Even your numpty in chief keeps it silent:otvwhistle:.

 

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1 minute ago, Sibdane said:

He also pronounces huge as "yuge." You might want to find a better source mate! 

I appreciate that he's functionally illiterate so may not be the most reliable source😂.

Anyway; Yerry eh? How about that guy!

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

It's our language so how we say things is right, no argument😎.

That said I'm not understanding your point, karma and calmer both sound the same do they not? Vodka is vodka is vodka surely? If you spelt it vodker the pronunciation would still be the same even if the spelling was wrong. I'm confused.

Agreed, but how come when y'all sing, ya sound 'Merican? 😀

But Kar-ma and calm-er?

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That's the classic confusion with Latin languages. In Slavic languages, you always pronounce the words right when you read them, because each letter has only one correct pronunciation.

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4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

?? how do you get that from my post?  i pronounce his name correctly as i can speak spanish and am not an idiot.  you brits are the ones who pronounce words ending with "a" as "er" not us americans.  vodker being a classic one.  we pronounce it vodka.  so actually i should ask you, are YOU pronouncing it correctly?

It’s our language it started on the shores of Blighty old boy, we lent it to you so I think it’s about time you come up with your own language and stop diluting ours. 

My suggestion would be a mixture of 1st nation Spanish English and a twist of Italian for that authentic touch. 

But whilst you’re still borrowing ours please don’t try and tell us we are speaking it wrong😉

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2 minutes ago, Palfy said:

It’s our language it started on the shores of Blighty old boy, we lent it to you so I think it’s about time you come up with your own language and stop diluting ours. 

My suggestion would be a mixture of 1st nation Spanish English and a twist of Italian for that authentic touch. 

But whilst you’re still borrowing ours please don’t try and tell us we are speaking it wrong😉

Hey now Pal, if anything we made it better.

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1 hour ago, Sibdane said:

Missed this one. Is the "er" in British English pronounced with the "a" sound? @MikeO 

Pretty much I think, if you take "wafer" as an example you can hear the difference between the UK and US versions, not sure how to link but I'll try. Click on the audio icons...

American https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wafer

English https://www.google.com/search?q=wafer+dictionary&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB788GB788&oq=wafer+dictionary&aqs=chrome..69i57.13149j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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1 hour ago, Haiku said:

That's the classic confusion with Latin languages. In Slavic languages, you always pronounce the words right when you read them, because each letter has only one correct pronunciation.

I agree that English makes no sense at all and breaks rules at every turn; must be a nightmare to learn if it's not your mother tongue.

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6 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

?? how do you get that from my post?  i pronounce his name correctly as i can speak spanish and am not an idiot.  you brits are the ones who pronounce words ending with "a" as "er" not us americans.  vodker being a classic one.  we pronounce it vodka.  so actually i should ask you, are YOU pronouncing it correctly?

Let’s get it straight: It’s the people of Cornwall who end words with “er”, like vodker, pianner, and the country Chiner. Now, let’s get back on track: This thread is supposed to be about Minner. 

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21 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I agree that English makes no sense at all and breaks rules at every turn; must be a nightmare to learn if it's not your mother tongue.

That was a deliberate ploy to stop others from speaking it, and as much as how hard it is to learn it’s the language of choice for global interaction. 

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5 hours ago, MikeO said:

I've never heard the "l" used in calm and I've been watching American TV on and off for 50+ years, be interested to hear from other US members what they think.  

The "l" is fairly soft, as opposed to when it starts a word - "like" or a word ends in "ly". The only people I would expect not to pronounce the "l" in calm, would be those w a strong northeast US accent - Boston/JFK type accent, NJ or NY, which Trump has a bit of. They tend to pronounce the letter "a" hard, and stretch it out a bit. Calm would be more like "kahm", less so that the l is silent, but more the "ah" is so damned loud. 

The rest of us say "cal-m" (NSFW)

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Ghoat said:

The only people I would expect not to pronounce the "l" in calm, would be those w a strong northeast US accent - Boston/JFK type accent, NJ or NY

The only people I'd expect to use it would be those who'd had a lobotomy.

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1 minute ago, MikeO said:

The only people I'd expect to use it would be those who'd had a lobotomy.

Perhaps most Americans were lobotomized at birth. That would explain where the "u" in color went....

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8 hours ago, SpartyBlue said:

He doesn't have to win the ball if they determine the contact wasn't enough for a foul. Also, I believe there is a "clear and obvious" bar that has to be met. Very similar to american football where it has to be obvious or the call on the field stands. It's possible that if a penalty had been given it would not have been overturned either.

I get the rules Sparty, it just looked to me like he brought him down without winning the ball. If you bring a player down without winning the ball it’s a foul. 

My whole point being that VAR was to be brought in to make decisions right, to sort out the black and white, but now it seems like it’s there to just for the sake of it. They don’t want to over rule referees, they don’t seem to be telling the ref to go and look at the screen themselves. I know it’s early, but from the last two weekends I’m losing faith already. 

Mina has kept two clean sheets though. 

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