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Just watched a few clips of him and had a nosey around on line and loads of Barca fans say similar to what Haf did in the other thread he needs games and his confidence building 

Very good player great with the ball good vision etc but he's been battered by the fans who just want to see Messi and co line up week in week out 

In one clip he's bearing down on goal and Suarez is shouting and pointing for him to play it backwards 15/20 yards to Messi which seemed to sum it up for me

 

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29 minutes ago, aaron said:

Desperate to join Marco's big blue revolution. Lovely, simply lovely.

Great bit of business of it happens 

Coming off the back of an injury ATM and gives us scope to properly see what he's about, reminds me a bit of Ross but with a brain to match his feet 

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1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said:

Great bit of business of it happens 

Coming off the back of an injury ATM and gives us scope to properly see what he's about, reminds me a bit of Ross but with a brain to match his feet 

I mentioned it on the Twitter thread.  It has all the hallmarks of one of moyes early breakthrough signings.... Players of previously proven calibre who hit a big patch of staleness. Arteta being the main one that springs to mind.

 

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4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

I hope there is an option to buy here. I wonder if we agreed to a buyback clause on Mina in exchange for a buy option on Gomes. 

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3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Two million for a loan is actually quite cheap. 

Is it? I guess I don’t see loan figures getting bandied about very often, so it sounded like a lot.

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23 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

Is it? I guess I don’t see loan figures getting bandied about very often, so it sounded like a lot.

 

If you think that it's like a one year contract, then it's peanuts.  Equivalent to a transfer with a 5 year contract would be 10 million.  I'm happy with this deal.

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Reading a few articles it seems his preferred position is left mid, though he can play centre or right.  Seems we've brought in 3 players who would like to play left wing!  We also (i think) kept lookman who also likes to play on the left!

A bit koeman style isn'tt it?  I hope Silva knows where he's putting them all!

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2 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Please please come through, just got a feeling there’s something special here.

Watched the obligatory YouTube video on him and he looks like a cracking player in that deep playmaker role.

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Seems a bit awkward, but comes out the other end with the ball. 

But when he has the ball, he looks like he has a decent quota of skill as well.

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I watched a couple of his Youtube videos and I like the look of him. He is very comfortable on the ball, composed in defensive areas too. Id prefer it if he was to replace Schneiderlin / Gana but he will almost certainly line up alongside one of them in the long term with Bernard/Siggy ahead.

 

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Saying that here is the contents of an article about him possibly heading to Juve prior to his move to Barca (by a Juve fan)

 

https://blog.wyscout.com/analysis-of-gomes-how-could-he-fit-into-juventus/

 

Juventus, fresh from winning its fifth consecutive championship shield, is making plans for next season.

And for the midfield sights have inevitably been set on André Gomes, a Portuguese player born in 1993 who came up through the ranks in Boavista and then moved to Benfica in 2011 for just 50k euros.

After three seasons with Lisbon, in the summer of 2014 he transferred to Valencia where he has played in 74 matches so far, scoring a combined total of 7 goals in the various cups. With an excellent physical build (188 cm at 84 kg), he is a modern midfielder, destined to become one of the best in the position in Europe.

But where could he be placed in Massimiliano Allegri’s three-man line-up, a tried and true formation thanks to players such as Khedira, Marchisio and Pogba?

 
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André Gomes plays primarily on the centre-left, but he can also be adapted as an offensive midfielder and centre halfback. His all-around playing skills are surprising, divvied up equally between build-up, finishing andhe defensive phase.

 
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His teammates often seek out André Gomes between the lines. Both in the final 25 metres to complete triangles used to finalise the manoeuvre on the wings and the midfield. And on his own half of the pitch, following up the goalkeeper’s return. It is a playing style that supports developing the game play reminiscent of Pogba’s style with Juventus.

 
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Valencia risks coming under counter-attack by Villarreal, but André Gomes leaves the midfield to sprint quickly toward his own goal and block the deep pass to the opposing forward.

It is a defensive manoeuvre that saves his team and is reminiscent of the shielding move that Marchisio often applies in front of the rear guard.

 
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André Gomes’ true secret is his completeness. In the play in question, he is the first to mark a man after Valencia lost possession of the ball. He shuts down the opposing team’s initiative and then facilitates Valencia’s counter-attack.
Conclusions:
André Gomes has everything it takes to do well in the Juventus midfield because he can represent yet another fresh new element in the bianconero ranks.

His passing statistics are similar to Pogba’s (in the last championship season: 50 passes per match on average for Pogba, 48.3 for Gomes; 3.2 long balls per match for the former, 3.1 for the latter; 38.4 short balls for the Frenchman, 36.1 for the Portuguese), but Allegri also has everything he needs to be able to set him up as a replacement for Marchisio based on his excellent defensive performance.

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This is also worth reading:

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2014/10/21/scout-report-andre-gomes-the-driving-force-behind-the-new-valencia/

 

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Portugal’s disappointing group stage exit at this summer’s World Cup only strengthened the perception that the squad is in desperate need of renewal. New head coach Fernando Santos has been shaking things up a bit, and one beneficiary could turn out to be Valencia midfielder André Gomes, on loan from Benfica. He received his first international cap for Portugal in a Euro 2016 qualifier against Albania back in September and was recently selected for a pair of matches against France and Denmark. The 21-year-old made the move to Spain this summer after three years with Benfica and has played a central role in the resurgence of Los Che under Portuguese manager Nuno Espírito Santo so far this season. His early season performances have already earned him some serious accolades. The 21-year-old was recently named in the La Liga’s Team of the Month for September, alongside international team-mate Cristiano Ronaldo.

If he does continue along his current trajectory, he could establish himself as a regular starter for Portugal soon. Rui Miguel Martins takes a look at the 21-year-old.

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Who is André Gomes?

André Gomes joined the youth academy of his hometown club FC Porto in 2005, where he would remain for three seasons before passing through the Pasteleira and Boavista systems.  He would join Benfica in 2011, at the age of 18 and in the summer of 2012, Gomes would experience his first action with the senior club during Benfica’s pre-season campaign.  But with Jorge Jesus’ club loaded with quality players in midfield, Gomes would begin the season with the reserve squad which plays in Portugal’s Segunda Liga.

After a series of spectacular performances for Benfica B, Gomes was unsurprisingly soon promoted to the senior squad. He would have a memorable beginning to his professional career, getting on the scoresheet after coming on as a second half substitute in a Portuguese Cup match against S.C. Freamunde in October, 2012. Soon after, Gomes began to see action in the Primeira Liga and even in the group stage of the Champions League. However, with the Portuguese league going down to the final weeks of the season, Gomes would factor less in the second half of the campaign as boss Jesus would opt for more experienced and reliable  individuals.

In January 2014, Gomes reportedly attracted interest from Manchester City, Liverpool and Manchester United but no transfer was finalized. Instead, Benfica sold his rights, along with teammate Rodrigo Moreno to Meriton Capital Limited, a third-party investment fund owned by Peter Lim. Lim is currently in the final stages of purchasing Valencia, but at the time, both players were allowed to remain with Benfica. Despite not playing much with the main squad at that point of the season, he suddenly became a regular option for Jorge Jesus. And he would go on to finish the season strong scoring a memorable goal in the second leg of a Portuguese Cup match against his childhood club FC Porto. He took a pass off his chest, before firing a volley past Porto goalkeeper Fabiano.  The goal electrified the Estádio da Luz crowd and helped the club advance to the final.

Gomes was also a big part of Benfica’s Europa League run last season, anchoring the midfield in the final, as the club eventually lost in a penalty kicks to Sevilla. André Gomes’ good performances wouldn’t go unnoticed though, as he would go on to be named in the UEFA Europa League squad of the tournament.

This past summer, Gomes completed his move to Valencia and although officially on-loan from Benfica, the La Liga club has repeatedly stated that his rights will eventually be transferred over to them. The club went into the recent international break sitting second in the table after beating defending champions Atletico Madrid 3-1.

He has been very impressive so far this season, earning many admirers along the way.  César Izquierdo, a football journalist for Valencia-based sports daily Superdeporte praised the youngster during an interview with Portuguese publication Record in late September.

“He [Gomes] is a complete revelation. He has already gained many fans in Valencia. No one expected him to make such an impact so early. [Jorge] Jesus has not taken the time to develop young players like him. His tactical awareness, tempo and creativity have always impressed me,” he said.


Style of Play, Strengths and Weaknesses

André Gomes’ greatest attributes are his impressive technical ability and tactical awareness which has been on full display so far this season at the Mestalla. During a July friendly against Alianza Lima, he would take control of the ball on the left side before dribbling past several defenders. Gomes would then go on to deliver a perfect pass to an on-coming Paco Alcácer with the Spanish striker make no mistake. This combination has worked very well so far this season as the two youngsters have drawn many admirers for their individual displays as well.

Gomes would exchange passes with Alcácer and Rodrigo before scoring Valencia’s second goal in their 3-0 victory against Getafe back in September. With each player under the age of 24, this could be the backbone of a strong Valencia team for years to come.

Gomes has an impressive physique for someone who is just 21 years of age.  Standing at 1.88m, he is learning to use his size and strength during matches. In a recent victory against Atletico Madrid, Gomes would hold off two defenders before walking in and scoring Valencia’s second goal. The impressive Alcácer provided the assist on that goal as well.

His physical strength has also helped him with aerial challenges this season. In addition, the youngster has the rare ability to pass and shoot equally well with each foot. Gomes has all the tools needed to develop into a solid box-to-box midfielder, who could play anywhere in the middle of the pitch.

Despite being in and out of the main squad for two seasons at Benfica, he still insists that the experience helped him mature as a player.  In a recent interview with Portuguese website A Bola, Gomes talked about the influence current Benfica manager Jorge Jesus had on him.

“In terms of tactics, he [Jesus] taught me how to read the game. Of course he is a specialist in that area. One of the best there is. He helped me grow as a footballer, especially when it comes to defensive duties. I am very grateful.”

But like most young midfielders, he is still very much a work in progress. Gomes is not blessed with considerable pace which does leave him vulnerable at times. At no point was this clearer than in the Europa League final with Benfica, where he lost the ball in dangerous areas on a few occasions, struggling to recover. Gomes also needs to improve his decision-making and consistency while his discipline has already been an issue with him this season. He has accumulated three yellows cards through the first seven La Liga matches of the season.

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7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

The fact that Barca had originally only been looking to sell Gomes it would suggest that if the loan goes well we'll have a decent chance of signing him permanently.

There could even be an option to buy already in the deal.

With the information coming out in last couple of days about Brands and how astute he is Id be shocked if there wasn’t. 

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

The fact that Barca had originally only been looking to sell Gomes it would suggest that if the loan goes well we'll have a decent chance of signing him permanently.

There could even be an option to buy already in the deal.

 

54 minutes ago, barryj said:

With the information coming out in last couple of days about Brands and how astute he is Id be shocked if there wasn’t. 

I remember reading that there wasn’t on deadline day but I can’t remember the source. Regardless, unless he shows himself to be an absolute worldie, I’m sure the possibility will be there anyway.

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He's not popular with Mr Messi... the darling of barca so retaining him isn'tt an option.

We really needed to have inserted an option at £20m.  If he rediscovered his Valencia form he's a £40m player by all accounts. 

I'm pretty sure that if he discovers his game at Everton that he will not want to go to any club other than us. He will appreciate us all that more. 

 

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28 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

marco said no buy back.   but seeing how barca don't treat him well and messi don't like him, i'm sure a nice bid and if he likes it here he would join.  

I wonder who Messi likes. He sounds like an a..h.. behind the scenes, which reminds me of the interview of Eto'o for a French TV about Guardiola.

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Just now, Sir McGiven said:

I wonder who Messi likes. He sounds like an a..h.. behind the scenes, which reminds me of the interview of Eto'o for a French TV about Guardiola.

Gomes being Portuguese wouldn't of helped I'd presume. 

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5 minutes ago, aaron said:

Gomes being Portuguese wouldn't of helped I'd presume. 

he's not brazilian or uruguayan (the argentines arch-nemesis) not sure why being from portugal (across the ocean) would matter.

 

honestly the more i hear and see from messi the more respect i have for ronaldo.  what you see is what you get with cristiano, whereas messi seems to be super passive-aggresive, a trait i can't stand in people.

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1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

he's not brazilian or uruguayan (the argentines arch-nemesis) not sure why being from portugal (across the ocean) would matter.

 

honestly the more i hear and see from messi the more respect i have for ronaldo.  what you see is what you get with cristiano, whereas messi seems to be super passive-aggresive, a trait i can't stand in people.

Who else is from Portugal who is a direct rival of Messi? hint: you've mentioned him in the same post :lol:

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2 minutes ago, aaron said:

Who else is from Portugal who is a direct rival of Messi? hint: you've mentioned him in the same post :lol:

seems dumb to hate everyone from portugal just because on ronaldo.  if true i have even less respect for the man.  let's hope atletico win the league this year with zidane gone and messi pouting.

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1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

seems dumb to hate everyone from portugal just because on ronaldo.  if true i have even less respect for the man.  let's hope atletico win the league this year with zidane gone and messi pouting.

Gomes has claimed Messi isn'tt as good as Ronaldo too.

Messi has claimed Gomes leaks stuff to Ronaldo as well, basically, Messi is a prick and Gomes is boss.

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36 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

I hope Gomes turns out like Fernandes who I fucking loved 

Except he joins on a permanent!

32 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

But obviously better 

Even better!

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