markjazzbassist Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 This is gonna be a tough one but thankfully we get Richarlison back. I’m not ready to bench Tosun yet and I hope Silva plays with one defensive mid and has a go at them. If we can get anyone healthy for the CB pair with zouma I will take them. Jags or Mina please. Pickford Kenny Jags/Mina Zouma Digne Morgan Gylfi Bernard Walcott Tosun Richarlison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Pickford Kenny Holgate Zouma Digne Davies Schneiderlin Sigurdssen/Dowell Walcott Richarlison Bernard Or Pickford Kenny Holgate Zouma Digne Walcott Davies Schneiderlin Bernard DCL Richarlison If Tosun starts we need to play a different system, likewise if Sigurdssen is gonna play behind the striker. Both are too slow to press from the front. Purely on Silva's pressing style, no Gana as he's not a foggy on how to press, he just chases the ball and ends up wrong side of his man, and usually made more difficult as he's out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 We’re going to get absolutely spanked. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Can't argue with that unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I would like to see us go for the win at arsenal. Can’t remember us ever going there and going at them. They are nearly as poor as us at the back and can be got at. Pickford kenny Mina/Holgate Zouma Digne Gilfi Morgan walcott Bernard Richarlison DCL id play Bernard in the hole behind the main striker with gilfi deeper. Hopefully Mina will be fit and can bring some leadership to the back line. We will give them a game London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Cenk should have scored at least two. He didn’t have a good game yesterday but I don’t think he is useless markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: I would like to see us go for the win at arsenal. Can’t remember us ever going there and going at them. They are nearly as poor as us at the back and can be got at. Pickford kenny Mina/Holgate Zouma Digne Gilfi Morgan walcott Bernard Richarlison DCL id play Bernard in the hole behind the main striker with gilfi deeper. Hopefully Mina will be fit and can bring some leadership to the back line. We will give them a game I like that bar DCL he's not good enough just yet to be up there on his own imo he'd be better playing off another striker in a system we don't deploy Pickford Coleman Zouma Mina Digne Morgan Sigurdsson Bernard Walcott Lookman Richarlison markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I’d be happy with that team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueherts Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 What i'd like to see would be.... Pickford Coleman Mina Zouma Digne McCarthy Gomes Walcott Sigi Bernard Richarlison Obviously that won't happen and we'll get served up Pickford Kenny Holgate Zouma Digne Gana Shneid Walcott Sigi DCL Tosun And we'll get battered. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Blueherts said: What i'd like to see would be.... Pickford Coleman Mina Zouma Digne McCarthy Gomes Walcott Sigi Bernard Richarlison Obviously that won't happen and we'll get served up Pickford Kenny Holgate Zouma Digne Gana Shneid Walcott Sigi DCL Tosun And we'll get battered. Again. Seeing as three of them are injured you’re definitely right that it won’t happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Bit harsh to say we will get battered again. West Ham had 3 chances and scored every time. At different points of the game we could have turned it round if we would have scored. First time we have lost and we should be sitting on a lot more points. Let’s get Silvas first eleven on the pitch eh? London Blue and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueherts Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Seeing as three of them are injured you’re definitely right that it won’t happen Man's gotta have a dream. Even if that dream is an impossible dream. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I pray Mina is ready for this weekend, Holgate just isn'tt good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 So far this season we've looked a one man side so it will be good to have the man in form back. I don't know whether playing him at CF is a good idea or not. He does a lot of damage from the left, think the balance with Walcott on right is good. Tosun needs to find form and should be benched. I think DCL would work well centre of a front three, it's an utter waste of time asking to play out wide. Stick him in the centre and hit crosses at him, play to his strengths. Midfield, I have no fucking idea anymore. Neither Gana nor Schneiderlin are good enough, but if we play Davies, Sigurdsson and Barnard we'd probably get ripped to shreds. I really hope Gomes turns out to be good beyond our wildest dreams coz I just don't see us winning many football matches with the midfield as it is. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 We do massively miss McCarthy or a player with his combative and forward style of play as Nogs says I hope Gomes can fill the glaring gap we need filling I don't not rate the lad but I'd have rather have had Besic sat as a DM than have both Gana and Morgan together it simply doesn't work We'll cause Arsenal plenty of problems on either flank it's the middle of the park they will dictate and pick us to pieces if something isn'tt changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I think based on Gomes' reputation and if McCarthy can get back to his previous level, then the ideal midfield for us would be Siggy, Gomes, and McCarthy. Really need them to get fit. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I’d do with that but I’d like Bernard in the number 10 role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 non injured lineup best lineup for me is: Pickford Coleman Mina Zouma Digne Gomes Gylfi Bernard Walcott Tosun Richarlison i hope we can see that soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 17/09/2018 at 11:43, TallPaul1878 said: I'm ready to send Tosun back to Turkey. Fucking garbage is what he is. Might as well start Sigurdsson as a false nine and have Walcott and Richarlison as wide strikers. After the West Ham debacle there needs to be wholesale changes. Some of those players are not fit to wear the shirt. One swallow does not a summer make. Let’s not write off players based on one poor game. IMO, he’s been contributing well in many ways. I’m sure we won’t be writing off Pickford based on one subpar performance. London Blue and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 If we ever played Siggy and Bernard together centrally we would get completely roasted. Siggy offerered us very little defensive protection (albeit nor did Gana) but I also dont see Bernard having enough size about him to play centrally. He looks like he might need a bit more space that playing wide affords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, Bailey said: If we ever played Siggy and Bernard together centrally we would get completely roasted. Siggy offerered us very little defensive protection (albeit nor did Gana) but I also dont see Bernard having enough size about him to play centrally. He looks like he might need a bit more space that playing wide affords. i disagree, we don't need 2 defensive mids, it hampers our ability to transition to attack and to attack well. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Doubt we will see Mina before the Southampton game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i disagree, we don't need 2 defensive mids, it hampers our ability to transition to attack and to attack well. No we dont need 2 DMs but we also dont need two 10s playing in midfield either. As I said in the summer, we desperately need at least 1 proper centre mid that can defend and contribute to the attack too. At the moment I would like to see us be hard to beat through the middle and give our attackers a platform to play from. From what I have seen that discipline comes from Davies and Schneiderlin. Id expect Gomes to come in and take that mantle over from Davies. Siggy alongside Schneiderlin might be ok too but I dont see him being disciplined enough and hopefully we never see the Gana/Siggy pairing again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Bailey said: No we dont need 2 DMs but we also dont need two 10s playing in midfield either. As I said in the summer, we desperately need at least 1 proper centre mid that can defend and contribute to the attack too. At the moment I would like to see us be hard to beat through the middle and give our attackers a platform to play from. From what I have seen that discipline comes from Davies and Schneiderlin. Id expect Gomes to come in and take that mantle over from Davies. Siggy alongside Schneiderlin might be ok too but I dont see him being disciplined enough and hopefully we never see the Gana/Siggy pairing again! why not? barca have played that way for years with iniesta and xavi and then iniesta and rakitic. works just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: why not? barca have played that way for years with iniesta and xavi and then iniesta and rakitic. works just fine. Neither of them was/are number 10s but DMs, still they are exceptional. Neither Morgan nor Gana have their passing ability, not even close. So, unless you have 2 DMs who can defend and pass the ball, it is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sir McGiven said: Neither of them was/are number 10s but DMs, still they are exceptional. Neither Morgan nor Gana have their passing ability, not even close. So, unless you have 2 DMs who can defend and pass the ball, it is useless. You misunderstand me. Busquets is the only DM for Barca. They play 2 attacking mids. For some reason Bailey thinks this system won’t work yet Barca has won everything with it. look at biesla at Leeds playing a 4141 same thing, one sitter. Top of the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: why not? barca have played that way for years with iniesta and xavi and then iniesta and rakitic. works just fine. Gomes is not Busquets though. We'd get taken apart playing a midfield 3 of him, Bernard and Gylfi. We simply haven't got the right kind of physical, mobile midfielders who can still play football you need in the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 I don't see the logic behind Bernard and Sigurdsson being torn to shreds yet Davies and Morgan wouldn't Both slow one physically not much bigger than Bernard but technically no where near as good Sigurdsson is wasted in the system we've been playing he needs to sit further back where he can dictate play and make those forward runs that he used to for Swansea where he's far more effective and Bernard could be the creative spark people have banged on about for years He's a big physical presence we should be utilising that until we get a chance to see what Gomes has to offer imo markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: I don't see the logic behind Bernard and Sigurdsson being torn to shreds yet Davies and Morgan wouldn't I was done when I read Davies and disciplined in the same sentence nyblue23 and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: why not? barca have played that way for years with iniesta and xavi and then iniesta and rakitic. works just fine. FFS... I didnt say it doesnt work ever but unless I have missed something we arent managed by Pep and we arent Barcalona. This isnt football manager. Rakitic isnt a 10 either he is an all round midfielder. 5 hours ago, EFC-Paul said: I don't see the logic behind Bernard and Sigurdsson being torn to shreds yet Davies and Morgan wouldn't Both slow one physically not much bigger than Bernard but technically no where near as good Sigurdsson is wasted in the system we've been playing he needs to sit further back where he can dictate play and make those forward runs that he used to for Swansea where he's far more effective and Bernard could be the creative spark people have banged on about for years He's a big physical presence we should be utilising that until we get a chance to see what Gomes has to offer imo Its about a players appetite to defend and the system they play in. We dont keep the ball well enough nor invert the full backs nor have the mobility at 6 to afford ourselves 2 attacking midfielders in the same time. Siggy showed at the weekend that he isnt disciplined and I doubt Bernard will either. 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I was done when I read Davies and disciplined in the same sentence Gana and Siggy made Davies look like Makelele this weekend they were that all over the place. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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