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Aside from locking up Gomes and Zouma...

I'd love a, slightly more, unrealistic Striker target like Mauro Icardi or Ciro Immobile (maybe??).  From the more possible scenarios; an Andrea Belotti or, riskier, Andre Silva seem well suited to our current style.  Both are strong and fast.

Otherwise...Sebastien Haller looks to be in top form, don't think he's too quick though.

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15 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i don't want dembele.  dude has had issues everywhere he goes, he's balotelli mk ii.  countinho is languishing on their bench, i'd take him (i know he would never come here).

Yeah actually I've just read he's a bellend.  Night club boy.  Dont want those at the club.

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15 hours ago, jofanon said:

I dont want much for Christmas only...

Wan-Bissaka

Ousmane Dembele

Andre Gomes

Hirving Lozano

Yes I know...no chance!

I'll swap Dembellend for Timo Werner at Leipzig - proper player (Lookman the other way)

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3 hours ago, jofanon said:

I'll swap Dembellend for Timo Werner at Leipzig - proper player (Lookman the other way)

Werner has looked garbage every time I've seen him play for Germany. If he was any good Bayern would have signed him by now. 

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35 minutes ago, jofanon said:

When I've seen him he's been excellent - super quick

Nearly a 1 in 2 player for Germany and considering he hasn't started many games for them it isn'tt a bad return considering the amount of forwards they have at their disposal 

He's 22 the fact he hasn't been snapped up yet by Bayern means nothing they've already expressed interest but have the likes of Wagner Muller and Lewandowski to jiggle around move on etc 

Young quick and technically better than any of the other German forwards on the rise, he'd be a good fit and will only get better imo  

 

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1 hour ago, nogs said:

Well rumours are we fancy Leipzig's French forward more. 

Saw that I can't see it being true tbh as it says Lookman would go the other way as part of the deal 

I can't say I've seen the lad play though so he may be decent and have bags of potential if they are interested it'll be purely financial over Werner though if their valuing a relatively unproven and unknown player at £38m

 

 

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Cheeky bid for Ozil?  Emery played 19 years old academy kids over him in a cup match today and lost to spurs.

Nah I wouldn’t. We know what we need. Striker and RB - most importantly Gomes tied up.

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7 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Cheeky bid for Ozil?  Emery played 19 years old academy kids over him in a cup match today and lost to spurs.

Yeah, just what we need, an little agitator in the dressing room, and one who only performs when he wants to.

 

its a no from me

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21 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Cheeky bid for Ozil?  Emery played 19 years old academy kids over him in a cup match today and lost to spurs.

...and pay him £300k a week - that after his eight figure signing-on fee - that after being really cheeky to Arsenal with the £50m plus add-ons for a player, if they didn’t have already, would 100% not sign under the current manager. Anyway, I don’t think this is a good idea.

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25 minutes ago, c1982 said:

...and pay him £300k a week - that after his eight figure signing-on fee - that after being really cheeky to Arsenal with the £50m plus add-ons for a player, if they didn’t have already, would 100% not sign under the current manager. Anyway, I don’t think this is a good idea.

yeah upon further reflection we can't afford him

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Ozil’s done nothing of any note for Arsenal or Germany for a long time why on earth would anyone want him here fucking us over 

Go for Ruben Neves before City take him he’s 21 and the bollocks should be able to get him for around 50 million sell Gana and Schneiderlin to fund it. 

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5 hours ago, Finn balor said:

Offer palace jimmy Mac, bolasie and Niasse and some dough for zaha please 

Prefer Wan Bissaka over. Saha,  plus a cheeky bid for Vardy, not my favourite person but he knows where the net is, can do the high press and would give us a bit a nasty which we don't have in our squad at the moment.

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4 hours ago, Wiggytop said:

Prefer Wan Bissaka over. Saha,  plus a cheeky bid for Vardy, not my favourite person but he knows where the net is, can do the high press and would give us a bit a nasty which we don't have in our squad at the moment.

would love Wan Bissaka but not sure if he is a realistic option.

Same goes with Vardy - he would be useful but only for a limited amount of time and I don't think Leicester would be willing to let him go in January - by the Summer we should have identified a longer term option from elsewhere.

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Goalkeeper: We're just fine, but push Stek back to #3 behind Virginia.

Defence: It's time for Coleman to be replaced, and much as I'd like to see Kenny get more time, I think we need to go out and buy (another Digne). Mina is settling in, and Keane is much improved. So, just one change is needed here.

Midfield: This, not upfront, is our greatest need. I can't believe some want to push out McCarthy. He and Gueye should be the basis of our midfield. It's time for Davies to go out on loan, but only to a good manager: He's messed up from the Crooked Sam era. Get rid of Schneiderlin, please. Sigurdsson is doing fine, but personally I believe he rather messes up our preferred configurations: A great player, but increasingly unsuited to our style of play. (I'm sure plenty will disagree with me about this.) Gomes provides great creativity, so we're fine there. What we're missing is solid backup players. Don't spend the big bucks, but find another Gareth Barry type.

On the wing: The future is Bernard and Lookman. I'm not a fan of Walcott, but he's fine as a backup.

Offence: Personally, I disagree with bringing in another striker in January: Wait until the summer. DC-L is improving. Richarlison is running hot and cold. Tosun needs more playing time to re-establish confidence, and he'll get it in cup games. Henry will be arriving soon, so be patient. There's no point spending big bucks in the January window: There are few good deals this time of year.

Who should leave? Schneiderlin (big save on the wage bill). Niasse (has so much spirit and gave when we needed it, but we've moved on). Bolasie (not sure why we acquired him in the first place). It's a good time to loan out Davies and Dowell. We need backup in defence, but one of Kenny and Holgate needs to be on loan, too. They need the experience of playing week in and week out.

So, in priority order:

  1. More depth in midfield: not a starter but solid backups for when we face injuries.
  2. An exciting replacement for Coleman (along the lines of another Digne)
  3. Reduce the wage bill, which means selling Schneiderlin, Niasse, and Bolasie and loaning out youngsters.

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39 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Offence: Personally, I disagree with bringing in another striker in January: Wait until the summer. DC-L is improving. Richarlison is running hot and cold. Tosun needs more playing time to re-establish confidence, and he'll get it in cup games. Henry will be arriving soon, so be patient. There's no point spending big bucks in the January window: There are few good deals this time of year.

Wouldn't mind taking a punt on Giroud in Jan if he is avaliable and actually wants to come.

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5 hours ago, Aidan said:

Wouldn't mind taking a punt on Giroud in Jan if he is avaliable and actually wants to come.

I rate him but he won't come here, he's made it clear he won't move from London  ( well his wife did ) 

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I hope we can firstly get rid of a few in this window e.g. Schneiderlin, Niasse and Tosun - I can’t see a future for any of them.  I want young/quality players brought - players Silva can coach and mold.

Right back - I really like Wan Bassaka but have seen Aarons from Norwich mentioned too who I haven’t seen as much but is getting rave reviews.

Central mid - I want Gomes long-term - top player! I do think we need another who can replace Gueye in games like yesterday when maybe his qualities aren’t as important. Someone like Doucoure can do the lot - I also like Billing at Huddersfield - I think he’ll be a top top player.

Att - I want Lozano and think he’ll be reunited with Brands eventually. Still think we need another too - maybe a more physical presence a little further along the line than DCL.

I’d still want these players in the summer but it’d be a bonus if we could bed one or two long-term targets in now which would benefit us long-term.

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7 hours ago, Aidan said:

Wouldn't mind taking a punt on Giroud in Jan if he is avaliable and actually wants to come.

Everton is not going to sign 30+ players any more. That's not how Brands operates.

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30 minutes ago, Makis said:

Everton is not going to sign 30+ players any more. That's not how Brands operates.

I think if a player he fancies over 30 is available I think he would take the chance. I don’t see every player he brings in being 20-24, nothing wrong with a mature head on the pitch as long as the legs are there too. 

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8 hours ago, Aidan said:

Wouldn't mind taking a punt on Giroud in Jan if he is avaliable and actually wants to come.

We don’t need a player of his age with no long term future left in the game, if we were looking like going down and desperate for some to put the ball in the net short term then maybe, but we’re not so why?

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23 minutes ago, Palfy said:

We don’t need a player of his age with no long term future left in the game, if we were looking like going down and desperate for some to put the ball in the net short term then maybe, but we’re not so why?

Because an experienced head even for a season can make a massive difference.

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9 minutes ago, Matt said:

Fucking hope not. 

I fully get why you say it but he's probably one of the players I'd love us to be able to get (I know it won't happen) 

We could do with that grit and nasty streak in certain games and his finishing is up there with the best of them 

I'd have Giroud though in January as a stop gap before he flutters off to Ligue 1 

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I’m sure brands has all his targets lined up. I hadn’t heard of Mina or Digne before we got them. I hope we get someone with real pace to burn. How’s Lozano getting on this season? I know he’s not a striker 

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1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said:

I fully get why you say it but he's probably one of the players I'd love us to be able to get (I know it won't happen) 

We could do with that grit and nasty streak in certain games and his finishing is up there with the best of them 

I'd have Giroud though in January as a stop gap before he flutters off to Ligue 1 

Talent to spare, but an utter twat of a player. Would cause many more problems than he’d solve

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

I think if a player he fancies over 30 is available I think he would take the chance. I don’t see every player he brings in being 20-24, nothing wrong with a mature head on the pitch as long as the legs are there too. 

I don't think so. Brands's plans are for the long term. Buying a 30+ year player is very short-term. His business plan seems to be to buy players before they hit their prime. I'm pretty sure part B is to make a profit on them. This is what he did at PSV very well and what he seems to be saying in any interviews.

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2 minutes ago, Makis said:

I don't think so. Brands's plans are for the long term. Buying a 30+ year player is very short-term. His business plan seems to be to buy players before they hit their prime. I'm pretty sure part B is to make a profit on them. This is what he did at PSV very well and what he seems to be saying in any interviews.

agreed, not to mention girouds wages are massive and no sell on value.  even though we have moshiri we are trying to build a stadium which is money, look at spurs they have no transfer budget due to the ground.  Brands knows this and will want young assets that increase in value so when the stadium build comes we can sell if we need to to buy if it gets tight (like it is at spurs who have more money than us).  

 

long term vision is the reason brands is here and i'm happy for that.  i don't want giroud.  richarlison is proving to be lukakus goal replacement and cost us half what we sold him for.  plus he's younger and could be worth double what we sold lukaku for.  that is good business.

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I'm not expecting much to happen in January tbh probably a fair few outgoings, I'd like us to do the leg work for tying Gomes and Zouma down

For the summer I'd love.. 

Bissaka 

Lozano 

Decourè 

Werner

Expensive I know but imo the type of players to push us on 

                           Pickford 

Bissaka      Keane         Mina           Digne   

                Decourè        Gomes 

Lozano           Sigurdsson        Richarlison

                            Werner 

Expensive and probably not possible but would give us some real balance and attacking threat and a very good bench and depth for rotating the side 

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37 minutes ago, Makis said:

I don't think so. Brands's plans are for the long term. Buying a 30+ year player is very short-term. His business plan seems to be to buy players before they hit their prime. I'm pretty sure part B is to make a profit on them. This is what he did at PSV very well and what he seems to be saying in any interviews.

You can’t only have a long term plan in business mate. You need a long term and a short term plan. Both are equally as important. 

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Just getting Gomes permanently would be outstanding. January about getting players out and clearing the budget/wage bill for summer:

Sell: Schneiderlin, Niasse or Tosun 

Loan out: Holgate, Dowell, Beni

Players out on loan who could/should be sold immediately: Martina, Pennington, Bolasie, Sandro, Garbutt, Mirallas, Tarashaj

 

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5 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Just getting Gomes permanently would be outstanding. January about getting players out and clearing the budget/wage bill for summer:

Sell: Schneiderlin, Niasse or Tosun 

Loan out: Holgate, Dowell, Beni

Players out on loan who could/should be sold immediately: Martina, Pennington, Bolasie, Sandro, Garbutt, Mirallas, Tarashaj

 

Bolasie Sandro and mirallas will be a problem

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1 hour ago, Finn balor said:

Giroud doesn’t excite me. The days of target men are gone for the time being. I think in January players will be leaving to free spaces up for summer if that makes sense? I like rice at West Ham who is having contract issues 

Worked pretty well for France in the WC.

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Im not really fussed about too much business, it will make a change to have a quiet window however that being said if we can ditch Schneiderlin and bring in a young hungry replacement as cover for Gana and then to push Gana as he develops that would be great. (As well as signing Gomes / Zouma)

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23 minutes ago, Palfy said:

How many of the current squad  do you think we need to offload to enable us to get players in next summer, and who in your opinion should be making way for the new signings.

no europa league next year sell/relsease: bolasie, mirallas, niasse, mccarthy, schneiderlin jags, dowell, browning, williiams, pennington, galloway, garbutt, martina, tarashaj, sandro

don't sell (current fringe players): vlasic, besic, onyekuru, holgate, baines

 

most of the sell players are already loaned or not even a part of the matchday squad so impact will be little except massive money gained on wages and transfer fees.  the players we get back will help shore up reserve positions (vlasic, besic, onyekuru to replace niasse, holgate for CB depth, etc).  That will also free up some space for youngsters to come through and some players to be purchased.  Mostly we just have A SHIT TON OF DEAD WOOD thanks walsh

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24 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

no europa league next year sell/relsease: bolasie, mirallas, niasse, mccarthy, schneiderlin jags, dowell, browning, williiams, pennington, galloway, garbutt, martina, tarashaj, sandro

don't sell (current fringe players): vlasic, besic, onyekuru, holgate, baines

 

most of the sell players are already loaned or not even a part of the matchday squad so impact will be little except massive money gained on wages and transfer fees.  the players we get back will help shore up reserve positions (vlasic, besic, onyekuru to replace niasse, holgate for CB depth, etc).  That will also free up some space for youngsters to come through and some players to be purchased.  Mostly we just have A SHIT TON OF DEAD WOOD thanks walsh

Until you actually see it you wouldn't believe it you listed 15 players, ok some of them are out on loan but that doesn't mean we still aren't contributing towards some of their wages, take all them off the wage bill and that would give us a huge pot for getting quality players in, the mind boggles at the scale of waste we have occurred.

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40 minutes ago, MikeO said:

You don't think we can get seventh this season (which may very well be a spot)?

i was stating to get rid of all of them IF we don't have europa because we don't need a large squad.  honestly i would prefer no europa, it seems to derail all our managers recently in their second season.  i'd prefer to focus on a cup win next year and league form.

37 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Until you actually see it you wouldn't believe it you listed 15 players, ok some of them are out on loan but that doesn't mean we still aren't contributing towards some of their wages, take all them off the wage bill and that would give us a huge pot for getting quality players in, the mind boggles at the scale of waste we have occurred.

yeah i kept adding players to go and kept thinking they will think i'm crazy for getting rid of all of these but honestly we could lose them all and it wouldn't make a difference at all.  we have a massively unbalanced and bloated squad that needs revamping.  brands is doing the Lord's work.

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15 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i was stating to get rid of all of them IF we don't have europa because we don't need a large squad.  honestly i would prefer no europa, it seems to derail all our managers recently in their second season.  i'd prefer to focus on a cup win next year and league form.

yeah i kept adding players to go and kept thinking they will think i'm crazy for getting rid of all of these but honestly we could lose them all and it wouldn't make a difference at all.  we have a massively unbalanced and bloated squad that needs revamping.  brands is doing the Lord's work.

Amen to that😃

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