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Winnable game here, they are not a great side but Hughton has done a great job of keeping them organized and morale high.  I want some changes from last week tosun in for walcott and davies in for gana.  have a go at them

 

                                     Pickford

               Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

                                     Gomes

                              Davies   Gylfi

                 Bernard       Tosun     Richarlison

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Winnable game here, they are not a great side but Hughton has done a great job of keeping them organized and morale high.  I want some changes from last week tosun in for walcott and davies in for gana.  have a go at them

 

                                     Pickford

               Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

                                     Gomes

                              Davies   Gylfi

                 Bernard       Tosun     Richarlison

Prefer DCL over Tosun but agree with the rest. 

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Winnable game here, they are not a great side but Hughton has done a great job of keeping them organized and morale high.  I want some changes from last week tosun in for walcott and davies in for gana.  have a go at them

 

                                     Pickford

               Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

                                     Gomes

                              Davies   Gylfi

                 Bernard       Tosun     Richarlison

I dont think Bernard has done enough to keep his place either. I would play Tosun over DCL like you as his movement/link up is better which will be more useful against a packed Brighton defence.

I would stick with the same central midfield as today. Gomes doesnt like defending so he cant be played as a defensive midfielder on his own.

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                             Pickford  

Coleman.    Keane.      Zouma.     Digne. 

          Gana.          Gomes.         Gylfi. 

          Walcott.     Richarlison.    Bernard. 

Did consider changing Gana but he will have a better game against Brighton no doubt of that, wouldn’t want to mess with the front line they still need more games together to gel and they are creating chances just need to make better decisions. 

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Two things that need working on with our side.

1. Finishing, we are capable of producing fine build up play but far too often the final product is just not good enough. Considering our play it's clear we are struggling to score goals.

2. Defensive errors. Too many times we have been in control of games only for a rush of blood by our defenders to charge forward and miss a challenge. We always seem to be able to allow teams an avenue back into the game.

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                   Pickford

Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

               Gana Gomes

   Lookman Siggy Richarlison

                    Tosun

Keane and Zouma are going to be hard to separate anytime soon as that cb pairing. Coleman has been awful this season but is still better than Kenny at this moment in time. 

Lookman has earned a place to start and Walcott has earned a place on the bench, so a no brainer there.

Bernard still needs time to adapt and we are a stronger team with Richarlison on the left. Tosun can have another go at that number 9 spot and hopefully take it, as he has scored a couple off the bench now and was unlucky not to start against United.

Should be another win, kick ourselves back into some momentum.

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                                    Pickford

               Coleman Keane Zouma  Digne

                             Gomes  Gana

                                      Gylfi

               Lookman   Richarlison  Bernard     

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10 hours ago, sibdane said:

                                    Pickford

               Coleman Keane Zouma  Digne

                             Gomes  Gana

                                      Gylfi

               Lookman   Richarlison  Bernard     

not bad  but for me :

 

Pickford

Coleman, Mina, Zouma. Digne

Gana, Gomes

Gylfi

Walcott, Lookman

Richarlison

 

seems a better  balance and it allows us to  see what Mina can do.

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9 hours ago, rubecula said:

not bad  but for me :

 

Pickford

Coleman, Mina, Zouma. Digne

Gana, Gomes

Gylfi

Walcott, Lookman

Richarlison

 

seems a better  balance and it allows us to  see what Mina can do.

Yeah, lets break up a CB pairing that is working well together just to see what Mina can do.

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I don't get the idea of sticking Richarlison up front. I've not seen any game yet, only the 20 minute highlights for each, but from what I remember happening was him scoring and assisting on the wing, and not sure he has scored since being put up top? Why are people / the manager so eager to change the formula?

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

I don't get the idea of sticking Richarlison up front. I've not seen any game yet, only the 20 minute highlights for each, but from what I remember happening was him scoring and assisting on the wing, and not sure he has scored since being put up top? Why are people / the manager so eager to change the formula?

Although I don't believe this is his best position, he isn'ttt that bad at it. Scored 1 goal from the centre forward position, won the penalty against united, was involved in the build up to DCL's goal a couple of weeks ago.

He is marginally selfish, which i dont mind, gets himself into good positions, but that final pass is lacking and is often a pop shot from the winger who has lacked composure to flash it across the goal to Richy. He is also quite good in the air, his only goal as a CF was a header (i think), and he has had a couple of other good chances with his head too.

I think with a bit of time he could become a good centre forward.

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16 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Although I don't believe this is his best position, he isn'tttt that bad at it. Scored 1 goal from the centre forward position, won the penalty against united, was involved in the build up to DCL's goal a couple of weeks ago.

He is marginally selfish, which i dont mind, gets himself into good positions, but that final pass is lacking and is often a pop shot from the winger who has lacked composure to flash it across the goal to Richy. He is also quite good in the air, his only goal as a CF was a header (i think), and he has had a couple of other good chances with his head too.

I think with a bit of time he could become a good centre forward.

Thanks man. I've missed out on so much this season, and the high-lights don't tell the  full story, so I'm genuinely curious. Stats wise he was more productive from the wing, but stats don't tell the whole story :)

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Just now, Matt said:

Thanks man. I've missed out on so much this season, and the high-lights don't tell the  full story, so I'm genuinely curious. Stats wise he was more productive from the wing, but stats don't tell the whole story :)

You needed to miss most of the last one not this one Matt!

Like I said, I think he is better on the left, but he certainly isnt bad centrally (imo of course)!

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Just now, Aidan said:

You needed to miss most of the last one not this one Matt!

Like I said, I think he is better on the left, but he certainly isnt bad centrally (imo of course)!

Please don't remind me :shakingfist:

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On 28/10/2018 at 18:25, markjazzbassist said:

Winnable game here, they are not a great side but Hughton has done a great job of keeping them organized and morale high. 

Since the first game of the season when they lost to Watford they've only been beaten by Spurs, Liverpool and City and they've beaten Man United. Won their last three on the bounce 1-0 each time; by no means easy this one, we need to take our chances and we've not been doing that.

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I'm going to this game, I hope we play like have been over the last couple of weeks, with a bit more ruthlessness in front of goal. Keep the pressure up like did against Palace and we will get a good performance and result. 

My only change would be Lookman for Theo, as  despute playing well in the first 6 games he has been poor in the last couple. No point having competition for places if the players playing poorly are not dropped. 

 

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1 minute ago, Bluemineck said:

Zouma cannot play against Chelsea. That game is too big to be Mina’s debut. He needs a run out alongside Keane this week.

I agree with the theory, but I'd rather keep our defensive pairing, who have been pretty solid by all accounts, together for the next game where we have a better chance of getting 3 points and worry about Chelsea after the game

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8 hours ago, Matt said:

I agree with the theory, but I'd rather keep our defensive pairing, who have been pretty solid by all accounts, together for the next game where we have a better chance of getting 3 points and worry about Chelsea after the game

Indeed.  Maybe Mina as a sub if needed or we are comfortably up.

 

3 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Pickford

Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

Gana Siggy AGomes

Lookman Tosun Richarlison

Would also go with this. If it doesn't pan out got Bernard, DCL, and Walcott on the bench.  Love that we have an improved bench this year.

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4 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Pickford

Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

Gana Siggy AGomes

Lookman Tosun Richarlison

I like that team, Keane and Zouma will get a bit of rough and tumble from Murray, so they need to be up for it, Seamus needs to have a good game. The pace of our wingers will give their ageing Italian full back (Schilleto? )plenty of issues, Cenk will give Duffy and Dunk a tougher game as a trad CF rather then Richarlison can. Hopefully this is the game we click across the park and give them a good spanking.

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On 30/10/2018 at 11:24, Matt said:

I don't get the idea of sticking Richarlison up front. I've not seen any game yet, only the 20 minute highlights for each, but from what I remember happening was him scoring and assisting on the wing, and not sure he has scored since being put up top? Why are people / the manager so eager to change the formula?

I actually think he has done quite well. He was very greedy against Palace and thats what let him down but against Utd he got 2 1v1 situations (one was the penalty) and he probably should have had 3 assists. A CF who does that isnt doing a bad job. Against Palace he did really well in the physical battle too. 

The real question though is whether the difference between Cenk and Richarlison up front is greater than the difference between Richarlison and Bernard/Walcott out wide. If Bernard had played better in the last couple of games there wouldnt have been as many calls for Richarlison to move wide again. 

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

Ill also add that Siggy has become much more involved since Richarlison came in and we at least appear to be winning the ball higher up the pitch on more occasions. 

And that is what’s making the defence look much more settled there not constantly on the back foot blowing out their arses. 

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Richarlison as a striker hasn't been working. He has been at his best playing from the wing. He's a strong lad and can bully almost any fullback in the game but it's too much for him to play the loan striker and he seems to have struggled.

Either Tosun or DCL should start up front. Neither of them are going to set the world on fire and a striker is now top priority in January.

Defence and midfield picks itself, injuries not withstanding. The question is; does Theo get dropped? Does Lookman or Bernard take his place.

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Just me that's really excited to be going back to Goodison? The Silva Effect 😎

Agree that this is a very winnable game but they're organised, it could well be another Palace game where we have to huff and puff for 80 odd minutes before actually breaking through. Given how Brighton will approach this it could well turn out to be a single goal that wins it. Fingers crossed that Pickford doesn't need to make it a hat-trick of penalty saves this weekend and we can actually make some clean tackles! 

Pickford

Coleman - Keane - Zouma - Digne

Gueye - Andre Gomes

Walcott - Sigurdsson - Bernard

Richarlison

I do agree that Richarlison is better suited to being on the wing but I just don't think this is the right game for Tosun. We need to get at them with pace and it's not what he's about, Cenk's a lot more suited to the games where we need a physical presence in the box. I've no doubt that he will make an appearance on the hour mark or there abouts but I'd stick with Richard up top from the off. 

Need a big game from Theo as he was poor against Palace and United, same with Bernard to be honest. Keep Gueye away from our own penalty box at all costs and tell Andre Gomes to put in another performance like the game against Palace. 

On 30/10/2018 at 11:24, Matt said:

I don't get the idea of sticking Richarlison up front. I've not seen any game yet, only the 20 minute highlights for each, but from what I remember happening was him scoring and assisting on the wing, and not sure he has scored since being put up top? Why are people / the manager so eager to change the formula?

Tosun's goal drought probably forced Silva's hand. Remember DCL got a few games up top too.

On 01/11/2018 at 07:11, Finn balor said:

I feel someone is going to get a tonking off us very shortly 

Gor Mahia probably 🙄.

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Tosuns drought is one part for sure, but Tosun occupying defenders probably allowed Richarlison the space. I’ve always said I prefer my strikers to score goals and that’s their only job, but I’m also against changing a working strategy. 

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Tosuns drought is one part for sure, but Tosun occupying defenders probably allowed Richarlison the space. I’ve always said I prefer my strikers to score goals and that’s their only job, but I’m also against changing a working strategy. 

What’s the working strategy create more chances than your opponent and score less goals, or not changing a winning team or something else, I’ve obviously missed something along the way and haven’t grasped what you mean. 

 With out looking like I’m taking the piss can tell me what you meant by that 👍 

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5 minutes ago, Palfy said:

What’s the working strategy create more chances than your opponent and score less goals, or not changing a winning team or something else, I’ve obviously missed something along the way and haven’t grasped what you mean. 

 With out looking like I’m taking the piss can tell me what you meant by that 👍 

No worries man. Basically I’ve always given the striker leniency if he scores, because that has always been our source of goals in the past. However, we’ve finally got some creativity and firepower across the front 5 so I’m not too arsed if the striker doesn’t score, provided he is allowing the others to do so. From the highlights I’ve seen and reading reviews, this seems to be the case for both Tosun and DCL, so Siggy and the wingers are the ones putting the ball in the net whilst the striker makes the space and tires the defense, brilliant!

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12 minutes ago, Matt said:

No worries man. Basically I’ve always given the striker leniency if he scores, because that has always been our source of goals in the past. However, we’ve finally got some creativity and firepower across the front 5 so I’m not too arsed if the striker doesn’t score, provided he is allowing the others to do so. From the highlights I’ve seen and reading reviews, this seems to be the case for both Tosun and DCL, so Siggy and the wingers are the ones putting the ball in the net whilst the striker makes the space and tires the defense, brilliant!

With you now Matt and that is great when it works but against Utd it didn’t, Bernard and Walcott weren’t clinical enough with the chances and positions they were put in  were a Lukaku type would do better with those opportunities we need that again. 

You only get so many chances against the bigger teams and you need someone clinical to take them, and to progress there the teams you need to beat. 

Reading back I made that sound simple obviously I know it’s not but it Silva we trust. 

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12 minutes ago, Palfy said:

With you now Matt and that is great when it works but against Utd it didn’t, Bernard and Walcott weren’t clinical enough with the chances and positions they were put in  were a Lukaku type would do better with those opportunities we need that again. 

You only get so many chances against the bigger teams and you need someone clinical to take them, and to progress there the teams you need to beat. 

Reading back I made that sound simple obviously I know it’s not but it Silva we trust. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’d have Rom back tomorrow, even if he was a dick during his time here. His finishing with the creativity we have now would be immense. 

That said, I’ve still got huge faith in Cenk to come good. The lads finishing is up there with the best, he just needs to work on his positioning and be a bit more selfish 

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Mina has been a bit unlucky since coming back from injury.  He would have come on had we been winning against palace but we needed attackers to change things so he had to sit out.

with Zouma out next week I guess we need to give Mina a chance alongside Keane so we know we’re not throwing him in with no premier league experience at Stamford Bridge.

The dilemma for Silva after that could be who comes out as his first choice CB’s!

 

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I'd still keep Zouma and Keane together. I understand why we'd want Mina to come in, but dropping Zouma could be detrimental to Keane too, as Keane is finally looking comfortable next to a more mobile CB. 

Like the Southern USA saying goes: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". 

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Been thinking about this a bit more and given we know how Brighton are going to sit in I think this is another game that we should see Richarlison upfront and Barnard from the left. On the right Theos pace will be less important so I would give Lookman his first run out. Not to say he should play everyweek but to give him a sighter and to also give Theo a little kick up the arse. 

In respect of strikers if you think about who Duffy ad Dunk would like to play up against, every day of the week it would be Cenk. Richarlison can beat you short, in the air, in behind, with a trick, better passer etc and DCL is more of a pain in the arse. I know if I was a defender I would be so much happier against Cenk than the other two. More time on the ball when clearing and more time to recover from mistakes. We will need some guile wide so Bernard should keep his spot and thats why I would also bring Lookman in as he is more unpredictable than Theo. 

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17 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Been thinking about this a bit more and given we know how Brighton are going to sit in I think this is another game that we should see Richarlison upfront and Barnard from the left. On the right Theos pace will be less important so I would give Lookman his first run out. Not to say he should play everyweek but to give him a sighter and to also give Theo a little kick up the arse. 

In respect of strikers if you think about who Duffy ad Dunk would like to play up against, every day of the week it would be Cenk. Richarlison can beat you short, in the air, in behind, with a trick, better passer etc and DCL is more of a pain in the arse. I know if I was a defender I would be so much happier against Cenk than the other two. More time on the ball when clearing and more time to recover from mistakes. We will need some guile wide so Bernard should keep his spot and thats why I would also bring Lookman in as he is more unpredictable than Theo. 

For similar reasoning it would make more sense for Davies to play instead of Gana. Don't need a disrupter if the opposition aren't gonna be playing the ball on the floor. 

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7 hours ago, Matt said:

.... we’ve finally got some creativity and firepower across the front 5....

We are seeing some firepower, but I’m disappointed that at home Silva has not put out a “front 5.”  Rather, it’s the same old 4-2-3-1.  Neither of the 2 DMs is a firepower guy.  Gomes and Gana each offers strength, though Gana (as discussed last week) is risk-reward, while Gomes seems steadier, a smooth organizer from deep.

We need attackers, excitement, and goals at Goodison.  I’d prefer 1 DM, 2 strikers, and thus an actual “front 5.”

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12 minutes ago, pete0 said:

For similar reasoning it would make more sense for Davies to play instead of Gana. Don't need a disrupter if the opposition aren't gonna be playing the ball on the floor. 

Maybe... I would play Gana just because he will win the ball back more often and with Gomes there I think we need that.

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