StevO Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, pete0 said: Feel free to make a poll. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, barryj said: That’s the FA cup and league cup written off then? So just the Premier League to play for? I’ve got a feeling you are going to be disappointed for many many years especially with FFP in play now. I'd be happy with an fa cup. I'd prioritise it as: Premier League (Champions league) Top 4 / (Europa league) Fa cup Top 6 Avoid relegation League cup Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Sibdane said: I don't agree that "most" will say we are a better side without Gana. There's currently no proof of that. I will agree that DCL is currently better suited to Silva's system though, and I agree that Gylfi isn't the quickest. I think DCL is better suited to Silva's system when we play on the counter attack especially against the top sides but he is no better than Tosun against sides that park the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bailey said: I think DCL is better suited to Silva's system when we play on the counter attack especially against the top sides but he is no better than Tosun against sides that park the bus. That's true, but then again, we don't have any striker that's capable of creating something from nothing against teams that park the bus. Hopefully Kean turns out to be that player. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, Bailey said: I think DCL is better suited to Silva's system when we play on the counter attack especially against the top sides but he is no better than Tosun against sides that park the bus. I'd rather Tosun have started against Palace albeit in a different system. If we stick with this system regardless of opposition Tosun shouldn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Lincoln are on a good run. We need to put a strong team out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 12:09, pete0 said: I'd be happy with an fa cup. I'd prioritise it as: Premier League (Champions league) Top 4 / (Europa league) Fa cup Top 6 Avoid relegation League cup So you’d prioritise winning the FA cup over being relegated? Come on - I know you don’t like the league cup and are trying to make a point but again I struggle to see your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, barryj said: So you’d prioritise winning the FA cup over being relegated? Come on - I know you don’t like the league cup and are trying to make a point but again I struggle to see your logic. 5 years ago I'd have said avoid relegation but the drought is only getting longer. If you got to the FA Cup final and also needed to get a result in the last game of the season what would you prioritise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, barryj said: So you’d prioritise winning the FA cup over being relegated? Come on - I know you don’t like the league cup and are trying to make a point but again I struggle to see your logic. I honk any fan would prioritise winning he FA cup over being relegated mate haha. Why would any fan want to prioritise being relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I think what PeteO is saying, is that working from the bottom up.... he would rather concentrate on AVOIDING relegation before winning the league cup. I don’t agree myself, I don’t think as a club you should ever target not getting relegated. Mine would be: Winning Premier. CL qualification. FA cup. League cup. Europa qualification. pete0 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Shukes said: I think what PeteO is saying, is that working from the bottom up.... he would rather concentrate on AVOIDING relegation before winning the league cup. I don’t agree myself, I don’t think as a club you should ever target not getting relegated. Mine would be: Winning Premier. CL qualification. FA cup. League cup. Europa qualification. But that’s not even an argument to have? We haven’t been close to relegation for many years so why bring it up as a priority? We have got to the final of the FA cup in 2009 and finished 5th, semi final 15/16 and finishing mid table so saying the Caraboa Cup would give us an added chance of relegation is absurd. It’s just another nonsense debate. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, barryj said: But that’s not even an argument to have? We haven’t been close to relegation for many years so why bring it up as a priority? We have got to the final of the FA cup in 2009 and finished 5th, semi final 15/16 and finishing mid table so saying the Caraboa Cup would give us an added chance of relegation is absurd. It’s just another nonsense debate. I agree it’s nonsense to suggest the League cup is any kind of distraction. I was just commenting on how I read PeteOs comment that’s all. I don’t think he meant he is prioritising relegation. More that he feels avoiding it is more important a priority than winning what some class as a locket mouse cup. I would rather win it myself and avoid relegation, and win the FA cup, and throw the prem title in while we’re at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, barryj said: But that’s not even an argument to have? We haven’t been close to relegation for many years so why bring it up as a priority? We have got to the final of the FA cup in 2009 and finished 5th, semi final 15/16 and finishing mid table so saying the Caraboa Cup would give us an added chance of relegation is absurd. It’s just another nonsense debate. Think you're having half this conversation in your own head. Where I have said we'd be more likely to be relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, pete0 said: 5 years ago I'd have said avoid relegation but the drought is only getting longer. If you got to the FA Cup final and also needed to get a result in the last game of the season what would you prioritise? - You’d take winning the FA cup and being relegated? You’re crazier than I thought? Seriously. New stadium, Championship football and a Wembley final resembling more a wake than a celebration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, pete0 said: Think you're having half this conversation in your own head. Where I have said we'd be more likely to be relegated. Then why would you not want to win it? I’m also waiting for your answer above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, barryj said: - You’d take winning the FA cup and being relegated? You’re crazier than I thought? Seriously. New stadium, Championship football and a Wembley final resembling more a wake than a celebration. I used to be on the other side of that argument but I was only a kid last time we won anything so hopefully we'll get another soon. 7 minutes ago, barryj said: Then why would you not want to win it? I’m also waiting for your answer above. Fucking question with a question, come off it. When have you asked me that any way I must have missed it? As Shukes as already clarified. 24 minutes ago, Shukes said: I don’t think he meant he is prioritising relegation. More that he feels avoiding it is more important a priority than winning what some class as a locket mouse cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 League winners F A Cup Winners League Cup winners In that order, I'm not worried about Champs League, or Euro comp, if we can't win the league I want us to win a Cup, any one of them. barryj, duncanmckenzieismagic, Palfy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I give up - I don’t think you actually read other people’s posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 At this present time the league is beyond us. Either cup I would take in heartbeat. I’m hoping Man City give everyone a chance and go for the prem and champs league and leave the cups to the mortals barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, pete0 said: 5 years ago I'd have said avoid relegation but the drought is only getting longer. If you got to the FA Cup final and also needed to get a result in the last game of the season what would you prioritise? I think Pete has actually managed to out Pete himself! if I’m reading this right you have no interest in winning or even competing in this competition ( win a trophy ) but you would happily take relegation if it meant winning the FA Cup because the trophy drought has gone on too long ? Thats some fucked up logic even by your standards StevO and barryj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I think Pete has actually managed to out Pete himself! if I’m reading this right you have no interest in winning or even competing in this competition ( win a trophy ) but you would happily take relegation if it meant winning the FA Cup because the trophy drought has gone on too long ? Thats some fucked up logic even by your standards Already said I don't see the league cup as worth anymore than a preseason tournament trophy. Villa fans recognise Everton as being more successful than them. If league cups were worth more than squat they'd have an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Villa fans really think that? They won the European cup! The best cup we’ve ever won had been shut down. Think Villa fans are treating themselves a bit harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, StevO said: Villa fans really think that? They won the European cup! The best cup we’ve ever won had been shut down. Think Villa fans are treating themselves a bit harsh. Nine league titles to their seven. The league is like a gold medal, rather have one gold medal than two silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, pete0 said: Nine league titles to their seven. The league is like a gold medal, rather have one gold medal than two silver. I’m still pretty sure their fans won’t be thinking we are a bigger club, as much as I think we are a bigger club. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, StevO said: I’m still pretty sure their fans won’t be thinking we are a bigger club, as much as I think we are a bigger club. Not bigger but more successful. Alex Ferguson knocked Liverpool off their perch by overtaking their league title haul even though Liverpool had more European. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, pete0 said: Not bigger but more successful. Alex Ferguson knocked Liverpool off their perch by overtaking their league title haul even though Liverpool had more European. But Liverpool fans will still think they are bigger won’t they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, StevO said: But Liverpool fans will still think they are bigger won’t they? Why does it matter of they think they're bigger. We're talking about success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 hours ago, pete0 said: Why does it matter of they think they're bigger. We're talking about success. Because you said Villa fans think Everton are more successful. Bigger and success go hand in hand. You don’t get more glory points for different trophies. I’m still not sure why you brought Villa into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, StevO said: Because you said Villa fans think Everton are more successful. Bigger and success go hand in hand. You don’t get more glory points for different trophies. I’m still not sure why you brought Villa into it. Don’t do it to yourself you’ll find yourself trying to explain your point over and over! I got sucked in yesterday StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 25/08/2019 at 12:54, Shukes said: I honk any fan would prioritise winning he FA cup over being relegated mate haha. Why would any fan want to prioritise being relegated I honk that’s what clowns do! Oh yeah makes sense now can see why you said it Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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