markjazzbassist Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt said: Beggar?! he's out of work and out of favor. he would literally beg to get this job because his current prospects are SPL or championship level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: he's out of work and out of favor. he would literally beg to get this job because his current prospects are SPL or championship level Think Finn was painting Everton as the beggars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Don't be daft. We'd only cement our status as league laughing stock. markjazzbassist, Matt and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 I meant Moyes would beg for this job under any circumstances markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 There's talk that he's interested in a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TallPaul1878 said: Moyes doesn't have that fire in his belly anymore. It comes with age and experience and a disillusionment with the game. Same with the likes of Benitez and Mourinho who have also been touted. If rather have Sean, frog in his throat, Dyche He’s not the exciting name I’d want, but I really wouldn’t mind Dyche. I think he’s very underrated and it would be interesting to see what he would do with better quality players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Maybe we need a british manager that is hungry with a chip on his shoulder and a point to prove. A lot of these high profile managers don’t care if they get sacked as they get a huge pay off and walk into another job. Look at lampard at the minute. He has good players and relates to the club and knows what it means and he wants to prove people wrong. I’m not saying lampard is the real deal for one minute but he has started well and the players have responded StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 We should now be at the stage in the squad that we add one or two players a summer. A new manager throws that all into the air again. That’s the worrying bit. Morishi needs to get one right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Finn balor said: We should now be at the stage in the squad that we add one or two players a summer. A new manager throws that all into the air again. That’s the worrying bit. Morishi needs to get one right This is my worry as well. At this point, Marco should have most of the players he needs to play the way he wants to play. If a new manager comes in then we're basically starting from scratch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Dyche is a donkey. Honest, hardworking, utilitarian. You want to play like Burnley for the next 4 years? What's the difference between a Dyche team and an Allardyce team? barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Rumour is he's coming back. He's odds on in tonights betting. https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, chicagoblue said: Dyche is a donkey. Honest, hardworking, utilitarian. You want to play like Burnley for the next 4 years? What's the difference between a Dyche team and an Allardyce team? So you’ve only seen what he can do with a small club on a limited budget? That means he couldn’t do more with additional resources? Im assuming in your job you are working to your maximum capabilities and couldn’t possibly do any better under different circumstances? I know I could do better in mine with a better team around me and more funding and better facilities. The difference between him and Sam is that Sam went to many clubs, various different budgets and various different quality of player, and achieved similar results. Dyche has done it once for the long term and done very well with a club like Burnley. He’s got plenty of time left in his career so I don’t see why anyone would think his career has to be so limited. He can’t get players like Bernard, Richarlison, Digne and Gomes at Burnley, but if he could you think he would still play the same way? Im not saying he’s the man for the job, but to think he just has one style of play (that has beaten us plenty of times in his Burnley career) is just narrow minded. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bill said: Rumour is he's coming back. He's odds on in tonights betting. https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/everton When I started this thread I never really thought it could be a reality, now it looks very much on the cards. I don’t really don’t know what to think mixed emotions at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Bookies just taking an easy bet and making it attractive. Moyes has never worked under Moshiri, Bill isn’t the decision maker. It won’t happen. chicagoblue, markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 No its not the time & it wont be again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I also hope not, but they wouldn't make him favourite for nowt, there has to be something going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bill said: I also hope not, but they wouldn't make him favourite for nowt, there has to be something going on. It’s obvious why they make him favourite. He was our last long term manager, he has Everton at heart, we’re in the relegation zone, he’s not currently employed, a few people in the media have touted his name due to our current situation, people have then bet on him, the odds have stated to reduce, more people have then bet on him again trying to get on band wagon and odds tumble. Simple. Id be shocked if he were to get the job. We need to look forwards not backwards. There are lots of great mangers out there we just need the right match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Fuck no! If we are to bring someone back, that must be Martinez. Palfy and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, StevO said: Bookies just taking an easy bet and making it attractive. Moyes has never worked under Moshiri, Bill isn’t the decision maker. It won’t happen. This all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 hours ago, StevO said: So you’ve only seen what he can do with a small club on a limited budget? That means he couldn’t do more with additional resources? Im assuming in your job you are working to your maximum capabilities and couldn’t possibly do any better under different circumstances? I know I could do better in mine with a better team around me and more funding and better facilities. The difference between him and Sam is that Sam went to many clubs, various different budgets and various different quality of player, and achieved similar results. Dyche has done it once for the long term and done very well with a club like Burnley. He’s got plenty of time left in his career so I don’t see why anyone would think his career has to be so limited. He can’t get players like Bernard, Richarlison, Digne and Gomes at Burnley, but if he could you think he would still play the same way? Im not saying he’s the man for the job, but to think he just has one style of play (that has beaten us plenty of times in his Burnley career) is just narrow minded. I’m sure some United fans argued the same about Moyes... Aidan and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Matt said: I’m sure some United fans argued the same about Moyes... Bam, was about to say the same thing. Its a catch 22 though... Some people want Arteta, however the would also have to adapt his managerial 'play style' if he were to come here because we'd get relegated if we set up the same way as City do. Its about the board sitting down with Brands and identiying targets who could come in and implement a style of play with the players we already have. It's difficult either way really. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Matt said: I’m sure some United fans argued the same about Moyes... And now they can, he has had the chance to show he was capable of more and it didn’t work out. Until someone has been given the opportunity to grow how can they be written off? Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, StevO said: And now they can, he has had the chance to show he was capable of more and it didn’t work out. Until someone has been given the opportunity to grow how can they be written off? Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 11 hours ago, StevO said: And now they can, he has had the chance to show he was capable of more and it didn’t work out. Until someone has been given the opportunity to grow how can they be written off? I was just giving a recent example of how that argument can fall flat on its back. I like Dyche but his finishes with Burnley don’t show me anything to think he could take us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Matt said: I was just giving a recent example of how that argument can fall flat on its back. I like Dyche but his finishes with Burnley don’t show me anything to think he could take us forward. I knew where you were coming from mate. im not saying he is the man for the job, just that I wouldn’t be that bothered if we got him and we wouldn’t know just how good he is until he’s given the chance. I certainly fancy him more than some of the other names doing the rounds. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 19 hours ago, Aidan said: Bam, was about to say the same thing. Its a catch 22 though... Some people want Arteta, however the would also have to adapt his managerial 'play style' if he were to come here because we'd get relegated if we set up the same way as City do. Its about the board sitting down with Brands and identiying targets who could come in and implement a style of play with the players we already have. It's difficult either way really. I disagree for what it's worth. Of course he would need to adapt but the principles work with crap players too. Look at Rodgers as an immediate example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 One positive of we did bring in Dyche would be he'd probs bring McNeil with him. On the other hand, a negative would be he'd bring another winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 I like McNeil a lot. I just want someone who rallies the troops and doesn’t give a fuck about who we are playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueherts Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Not sure I care that much anymore. Managers come and go,. We'll still be shit while keane, mina, schnide, siggy and dcl play every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 I think it’s getting closer, we need a manager who can install fight in a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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