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1 minute ago, Bailey said:

Whilst it was a foul it wasnt the challenge that did it. Looked like one of those things that can happen in a contact sport. Its not even a red card.

Don’t understand the late red, after original yellow.  Was it after consulting linesman, or 4th official, or VAR?

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1 minute ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Don’t understand the late red, after original yellow.  Was it after consulting linesman, or 4th official, or VAR?

Me neither, gets it was because of the extent of the injury. Not sure why VAR didnt reverse the decision. Wouldnt have gone down well in the ground mind you!

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Unfortunately, that's the last we will see of Andrè Gomes, it's going to take him the rest of the season at least to be fit for playing football and even then the psychological damage is enormous. Few players come back from injuries of that caliber and it's one of the worst breaks I've seen - his foot was completely pointing sideways. Gutted too because I love Andrè, wish him all the luck in the world but that's just horrendous, ten times worse than Coleman and Digne's injuries. 

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Who gives about football. Gutted for Gomes; he’s been pure class today n and off the pitch since he's been at Goodison. I never do this, but I’m going to write him a letter of best wishes, fuck knows if it will make a difference to him, but got to be worth it.

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1 minute ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Unfortunately, that's the last we will see of Andrè Gomes, it's going to take him the rest of the season at least to be fit for playing football and even then the psychological damage is enormous. Few players come back from injuries of that caliber and it's one of the worst breaks I've seen - his foot was completely pointing sideways. Gutted too because I love Andrè, wish him all the luck in the world but that's just horrendous, ten times worse than Coleman and Digne's injuries. 

I really hope he comes back, but it looked really bad. The more I think about it the more I shudder.

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Very tough day. On the whole I thought the shape was a lot better, bar the chance we handed to them on the plate they did absolutely nothing. We just lacked quality time and time again. Our decision making and execution were both terrible for 95% of the game.

None of that matters though really... I wish Gomes all the best and I hope to see him wear the shirt again.

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Players laughing and joking with the opposition after the whistle. Richarlison throwing himself around in petulance every two minutes. Backward passes even at the last 30 seconds of end of the game so we don't even get the ball in the box. They should all be devastated they didn't win that.

This isn't Everton anymore. 

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Well, as a human, all thoughts to Gomes. Awful injury. Class player. Hope to see him make a full recovery.

As an Evertonian, shit just keeps sticking to us. We again shoot ourselves in the foot with that woeful pass that lead to the goal. Shit just keeps happening and it's too frustrating.

As for VAR, I'm not a fan. Never have been and for me it's getting more inconsistent as the weeks go on. It's getting worse rather than better.

Stuck for words tbh. Feel quite emotional for some reason. Life of an Evertonian eh.

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No idea where to start with that. The Gomes injury... I just wish him a full recovery coz that looked horrendous. 

VAR... The PL is in the verge on making the world's greatest football league the biggest laughing stock. How clear does the Alli handball have to be? Why wasn't there even a free kick for the Sanchez foul on Richarlison? Why is Atkinson as a top flight referee unable to see that himself? 

In terms of how we played... I'm glad we showed enough fight to keep going and get the draw, Spurs were utter shite and didn't deserve the win. I thought Davies and Delph played really well in midfield, as did Mina and Holgate at the back. But fuck me we've got problems up front. Iwobi was woeful all game, Richarlison has to stop the rolling around shit it is embarrassing. I just don't see where goals are coming from. With injuries exposing how threadbare the squad is I'm expecting a long hard winter. 

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

Oh Theo. Squares that properly and Gomes will have a shot from the edge of the box.

Gomes just as much at fault for not making a better run. 

32 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Whilst it was a foul it wasnt the challenge that did it. Looked like one of those things that can happen in a contact sport. Its not even a red card.

Completely agree. Fucking horrible result from the tackle not it's a freak situation in his ankle rolling over. Hopefully he's young enough for it to heal up and come back from it. 

VAR was an absolute joke today. No idea how the Dele pen wasn't given or the fk at the end when Richarlison pinched the ball. Son shouldn't have been a red either. 

Martin Atkinson gifted them the point today as much as Iwobi's pass was a shocker. He gave everything their way, takes the wind out of players and knocks your momentum. Joke that he's allowed any where near an Everton game. 

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For those of you confused with today's game, let me explain yo you what VAR is and how it is used.

VAR is a tool for the Premier League to manipulate results. There can be no other explanation after over 100 Premier League matches played with it's use. This is not a teething issue, it is not gross stupidity from the referees. It is SPECIFICALLY to manipulate the results of the game.

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10 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

For those of you confused with today's game, let me explain yo you what VAR is and how it is used.

VAR is a tool for the Premier League to manipulate results. There can be no other explanation after over 100 Premier League matches played with it's use. This is not a teething issue, it is not gross stupidity from the referees. It is SPECIFICALLY to manipulate the results of the game.

I agree pal. The shite got a token gesture yesterday and they went mad and started a petition over the ref. The gomes injury I whole heartedly blame on the referee. He was fucking awful. He allowed shite challenge after shite and gave us nowt. VAR is shite and I hate it but Ali clearly handballs it and we get nowt? It’s a corrupt sport. Like boxing and horse racing 

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You have to wonder if the Premier League can survive if it continues down the path that it is going. The game is becoming an absolute farce. Fans of all teams are just constantly angry and confused with the decisions that are being made.

VAR shouldn't be so hard to use. It's just a video replay. Complaining about VAR is like complaining about CCTV because judges keep letting burglars go free

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2 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

I agree pal. The shite got a token gesture yesterday and they went mad and started a petition over the ref. The gomes injury I whole heartedly blame on the referee. He was fucking awful. He allowed shite challenge after shite and gave us nowt. VAR is shite and I hate it but Ali clearly handballs it and we get nowt? It’s a corrupt sport. Like boxing and horse racing 

I have been saying for weeks that we would suffer a serious injury because of referees allowing petty fouls to go unpunished where we are concerned.

Like the West Ham game when they hacked our player down in the box and the ref not only waves it away but gives them a corner.

Think logically. It can only be 1 of 2 things. Either the referees are utterly incompetent, or they are involved in match fixing.

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2 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Why are they not using the screen pitch side? Because they want a anonymous person to make these decisions so there is no come back. 

Yea because it is match fixing. If it was just stupidity the they'd still try to be honest and they'd show stuff on the big screens and just keep getting it wrong. But it's all done behind closed doors in London. It's rigged

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49 minutes ago, MockBu4 said:

Awful game with long lasting consequences.
Best wishes for Gomes full recovery.

100%

49 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Absolutely fuming and devastated all at once. That’s all I’m saying about that game. End of story. 

And again 100%, never felt worse after a game I’ve been to, wrong to say too much now.

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Wow where do I start...... on the m6 services on way home and I can’t recall having so many mixed emotions. I was incandescent with a number of decisions today. I hate is moaning about decisions and luck but we’ve been on the end of some shockers of late. The VAR for the Ali handball took forever and took the sting out of what was our best period of the game....& was way more of a pen than last weeks shambles. The atmosphere today was toxic and we shouldn’t let the poor decisions and horrific injury distract from another pitiful performance. How they can only add 12 mins on is a disgrace as the VAR decision and the injury was just over 13 mins by themselves. Most importantly I wish Gomes all the best in his recovery but this will leave a huge whole in the squad. Both teams today look devoid of all confidence and I’m worried for us going forward. Sorry for the poorly written, scattergun approach but I’m seething.

 

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17 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

Rugby friends told me in their sport the VAR is shown on big screen and they see what the refs are reviewing. In football seems it is behind closed doors.

Same way in the NFL. We can see what the ref is reviewing.

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17 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

Rugby friends told me in their sport the VAR is shown on big screen and they see what the refs are reviewing. In football seems it is behind closed doors.

You can also hear what they're saying, not sure about in the ground but certainly on TV and you can also hear what the ref is saying to the players; much clearer system.

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1 minute ago, Sibdane said:

Same way in the NFL. We can see what the ref is reviewing.

When they were checking our penalty absolutely no one around me knew what the penalty would even have been for. It’s ridiculous that it’s not shown on the screen what’s being looked at. 

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11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

When they were checking our penalty absolutely no one around me knew what the penalty would even have been for. It’s ridiculous that it’s not shown on the screen what’s being looked at. 

It's ridiculous. There should be clarity/visibility into what's being looked at. I'm no conspiracy theorist by any means, but VAR has felt shady since it's inception.

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1 hour ago, Sibdane said:

It's ridiculous. There should be clarity/visibility into what's being looked at. I'm no conspiracy theorist by any means, but VAR has felt shady since it's inception.

There must be accountability. Refs for too long haven’t had to even justify a decision. Even if they get it wrong - which happens and people can accept, at least offer the thought process behind that decision.

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14 minutes ago, Btay said:

There must be accountability. Refs for too long haven’t had to even justify a decision. Even if they get it wrong - which happens and people can accept, at least offer the thought process behind that decision.

Completely agree. It's absolutely insane that refs get away with so much. What's the reason?

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3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

When they were checking our penalty absolutely no one around me knew what the penalty would even have been for. It’s ridiculous that it’s not shown on the screen what’s being looked at. 

Same in my section and nobody appealed either! What’s even more crazy is that it took 3 mins to make a decision and by that time everyone around me had it on their phones anyway so I can’t see why they don’t show it! I actually was ok with the decision but as I’ve said before I want consistency. I don’t want to be done with the same thing going against us in the next game. The Richarlison incident was a penalty yet that took them about 10 seconds to say no 🤦‍♂️ 

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