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If we weren't in free fall i would consider this a winnnable match.  i'm not impressed by their team, really not.  I think solid defending and having a go you can really get at that weak back line of theirs.  But not with our squad.  I'd be happy with just a draw, miracle really.  i think we'll get beat again.

 

                      Pickford

              Holgate Keane Mina

     Sidibe  Davies Delph Digne

          Richarlison DCL Bernard

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3 hours ago, Gwlad all over said:

Birthday present is this game :unsure: It will be great just to be there, always is. Wonder who the manager will be on the day though.

Big Dunc mate, happy birthday great prezzy if they win how good would that be 🤞

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4 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Big Dunc mate, happy birthday great prezzy if they win how good would that be 🤞

If they embody the spirit of him a few will get sent off stupidly so they can get Christmas off and then return only to get injured and miss the next two months.

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Absolutely no idea how Dunc will set up for this game, formation or player preference.  It will be interesting to see who he picks up top seeing as he works closely with the strikers and there not being much between each of them. 

My only hope is that Siggy is dropped. 

 

Pickford 

Coleman Keane Mina Digne 

Iwobi Davies Morgan Richy

DCL Kean

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5 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Dont know how Michael Keane can get in anybody's team.

Is Coleman fit? We need to shore up defence.

Pickford

Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Digne

Walcott, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard

Richarlison, DCL

I feel the same about Holgate. Unfortunately one of them has to be picked. Taking intl account their full ability from over the seasons, Keane obviously has more talent, so went for him. Hopefully he will feel less pressure with Silva gone. 

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2 minutes ago, Aidan said:

I feel the same about Holgate. Unfortunately one of them has to be picked. Taking intl account their full ability from over the seasons, Keane obviously has more talent, so went for him. Hopefully he will feel less pressure with Silva gone. 

I'm no Holgate fan either but he's the quicker of the 2. That's my only reasoning 

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Lossl

who cares  human with pulse Mina Digne

Walcott Shiterlin Davies Bernard

Richarlison DCL

 

Fuck this. We don’t have a second CB and I have to put my two least favorite players (Walcott and Schneiderlin) in the team. Even relegation is better than the Allardyce days but damn right now is close. 

 

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6 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Dont know how Michael Keane can get in anybody's team.

Is Coleman fit? We need to shore up defence.

Pickford

Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Digne

Walcott, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard

Richarlison, DCL

I like this but id start richarlison for walcott and Kean uptop 

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I'm ready to see Gordon, certainly can't do any worse than Gylfi.  Would roll with Moise as well, there's been glimmers lately and maybe Gordon can thread him in.

Thought Iwobi was poor, although realise it wasn't his side.  Prefer Bernard over him on the left, glad he's finally back.

Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Digne

Davies, Schneiderlin, Gordon

Richarlison, Kean, Bernard

4-2-1-3 / 4-1-2-3 styles.

Or go more aggressive with

Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Digne

Schneiderlin,

Walcott,Gordon,Bernard

Richarlison, Kean

 

 

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So long as we try something different. Not just in the formation but in the tactics and play style. Under Silva we had become utterly predictable.

Our defence is poor at the moment so we should probably keep a compact back 4 and check the runs of the full backs. Whilst doing that we need to have pace up front and on the wings to allow us to break. It's when our defence steps up to the half way line that we become vulnerable

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The fact that we have players like Digne and Sigurdsson taking corners and players like Keane, Mina, Calvert Lewin and Richarlison yet we have hardly scored a single headed goal from a set piece is astounding.

This has got to be something Dunc should address. Hell we could do the "love train" that England had success with at corners.

We have pace in the side if we want to use it. No need to over expose our defence that is so utterly lacking in pace and confidence at the moment. Even if that does mean Digne has less impact on the game.

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We are woefully short at CB and even shorter in midfield. I can't see us not playing with 5 in midfield as opposed to at the back against this Chelsea side.

I would also be surprised if it wasn't DCL leading the line. 

I just feel as though they might lead us a merry dance through the middle with their quick, sharp movement and our slow leggy plodders. 

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Very few options.  Delph out, Coleman out, all the long term injured out.  Hope Mina is fit.  Duncan seemed to think he'd be ok despite the concerns. Do wonder if it's close to time for Pickford to sit and get his head sorted out though.  5 from 5 is miserable reading.

 

---------------Pickford---------------

Sidibe-Holgate-Mina-Lucas

-----------------Morgan------------

------Tom-----------------Iwobi--

RIch--------------------------Bernard

-------------Kean---------------

 

Gilfy's best game this season was as a sub, until he really finds form that needs to be his role.  Come on late, find the pockets, use his technique to get some shots.  He's totally wasted when he starts matches right now because he's so far off the pace. 

Going to be positive.   Expect the win and a storming atmosphere.

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Bailey said:

If the rumours about the bust up with Schneiderlin are true then I wonder if Ferguson will pick him tomorrow?

Hopefully they are and he won't... But also we don't have any midfielders fit so we don't have much choice 😂

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If anything, Ferguson will have the players fired up and playing with pride. I've been a bit critical of Ferguson in his coaching capacity, wondering what he brings considering he's been here since Martinez. But he adores the club, he'll want the players to run through brick walls, he'll tell them Goodison will be on their side if they show they want it, get that first challenge in and the Goodison faithful will become the 12th man. I know others may say that to them, but I'm not sure anyone can deliver it to the players with as much genuine passion and enthusiasm as Ferguson can.

I'm here to be won over. I've no idea who we turn to next, so I'm really hoping to see something inspiring under Ferguson. He gets a chance, hopefully he takes it.

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I just can’t see what’s going to be different. We need players to own their individual moments, win their key battles and show some bottle and pride. Duncan has nothing to lose, put out a 442 or a 433 and just really go for them. Richarlison and Kean will be a threat. 

Another note - any one looking for us to add pace to our team and has Iwobi or Bernard are kidding themselves surely - Milner made Iwobi look slow in the derby and Bernard checked inside instead of taking him on.

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7 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

let's hold out on the "dunc will have em up for it" until after a few matches.  Unsy tried his best and the guys still were losing and putting heads down.  What makes you think Dunc is any different?  

Personality.

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6 hours ago, Btay said:

I just can’t see what’s going to be different. We need players to own their individual moments, win their key battles and show some bottle and pride. Duncan has nothing to lose, put out a 442 or a 433 and just really go for them. Richarlison and Kean will be a threat. 

Another note - any one looking for us to add pace to our team and has Iwobi or Bernard are kidding themselves surely - Milner made Iwobi look slow in the derby and Bernard checked inside instead of taking him on.

I'd still put them both in rather than Sigurdsson or Morgan. I put half of those issues down to a lack of confidence and possibly the manager's instructions. One thing that Martinez got right was that he insisted that his players would go past a man. You have to take on the opposition and go past them, whether that is with a dribble or a quick one-two pass, you must attack them.

Iwobi isn't lightning fast but he can turn and attack the midfield. Often he has possession and then runs out of options ahead of him but the incentive is there.

Bernard does have the pace and skill to go past a player, was it that he was a little conscious of his fitness with having a bad injury that has made him check back rather than open up for a sprint?

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I understand the thinking behind "what can Dunc bring". Just firing the players up isn't going to be enough. You might get a dead cat bounce but ultimately the players don't have that spirit needed to really make an Everton team click.

I think an Everton player does need to be a bit of a hot head at times. Mina does and that's why fans like him. Coleman, Pickford, Richardson all have a bit of spike in them. Where it is lacking most is in the key positions in centre midfield. Too many if those look like they will just give up and don't have a fighting spirit.

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32 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

I understand the thinking behind "what can Dunc bring". Just firing the players up isn't going to be enough. You might get a dead cat bounce but ultimately the players don't have that spirit needed to really make an Everton team click.

I think an Everton player does need to be a bit of a hot head at times. Mina does and that's why fans like him. Coleman, Pickford, Richardson all have a bit of spike in them. Where it is lacking most is in the key positions in centre midfield. Too many if those look like they will just give up and don't have a fighting spirit.

Time to recall Mo Besic. Would add some bite. Vlasic had grit too but our shit manager opted for Sigurdssen to chase shadows instead. 

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39 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Bernard does have the pace and skill to go past a player, was it that he was a little conscious of his fitness with having a bad injury that has made him check back rather than open up for a sprint?

Absolutely his speed of thought means more often than not he’s ahead of the opposing player. He’s a starter every time for me.

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2 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Time to recall Mo Besic. Would add some bite. Vlasic had grit too but our shit manager opted for Sigurdssen to chase shadows instead. 

Is that even an option? Your attributing things to Silva that in all likelihood he had no control of.

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54 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Time to recall Mo Besic. Would add some bite. Vlasic had grit too but our shit manager opted for Sigurdssen to chase shadows instead. 

I think the jury is out on Besic. His Everton career is as over as Sandro's is

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Awful line up. Morgan and Siggy still getting in the team together.

DCL up front fucking awful just give kean a chance, its the same names who are achieve fuck all. I'd imagine Bernard isn't playing because he's not fully fit. 

My guess is 442 with Richy upfront maybe? 

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That is an interesting line-up to say the least. I too would guess 442 but it might be 451 with Iwobi as the 10. It might even be Walcott off of DCL rather than Richarlison?

Mina is going to be a huge loss. I suspect the intention is to go out there an give it a go and cause their shaky defensive problems but we could easily be a handful down by the end of the first half.

For what its worth I too would have gone with Schneiderlin and Siggy in midfield. They are the best of a very bad bunch.

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If it's 442 we have to be direct and aggressive. Get it up to dom and get Rich, theo and Iwobi playing off him. Want to see grit, bookings, tactical fouls and plenty of controlled aggression along with plenty of balls in the box for dom and Richy to attack. 

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Holy fucking shit. Has he not learnt the lessons of the last two years? Or is he trying to make a point to the board - this is how desperate things have become? 

Mina injury - well there's how badly we fucked up in the summer over a CB. 

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23 minutes ago, Isaiah said:

4 attackers on the bench and no central defender (not that we have any).

If Keane or Holgate get injured then Schneiderlin will likely drop back to play cb.

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all the gylfi bashers every manager picks him.  even dunc!  if he was a problem he'd be on the bench.  he's not.  maybe just maybe the quality is there and the setup and players aren't utilizing the icelandic god the way we need to unlock his powers.  he was scoring a lot for swansea.

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Just now, markjazzbassist said:

all the gylfi bashers every manager picks him.  even dunc!  if he was a problem he'd be on the bench.  he's not.  maybe just maybe the quality is there and the setup and players aren't utilizing the icelandic god the way we need to unlock his powers.  he was scoring a lot for swansea.

We have no good alternatives 

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2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

all the gylfi bashers every manager picks him.  even dunc!  if he was a problem he'd be on the bench.  he's not.  maybe just maybe the quality is there and the setup and players aren't utilizing the icelandic god the way we need to unlock his powers.  he was scoring a lot for swansea.

What ever drugs you are on swing them this way pal.

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