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Leicester City (Carabao Cup Home) Wednesday Decemeber 18th

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Oh well. Tosun and Baines's pens were shite, Baines can have a pass but not sure what we pay Tosun's wages for. 

Fabulous fight back 2nd half though, we can hold our head up high and more of the same Saturday we'll stuff Arsenal.

Longer term, whoever comes in I just don't know what they do about some of the overpriced overpaid shite we call players. Iwobi, Keane first half, Bernard who was so bad he got pulled instead of Iwobi... Just so many players on our books who individually are not up to scratch. It doesn't matter who is in charge, what tactics you play, our recruitment continues to be very, very worrying

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What a game.

The only regret from that is that we seemed to start too cautiously. Once we were 2 down, we went at them and had them against the wall. Should have gone at them with that intensity from the off.

But to put in a shift like that against an on song Leicester, with our patched up team - there's plenty to be pleased to be pleased about there I think. Some solid performances. Notably Holgate in CM again. DCL didn't stop. Iwobi was sloppy by he never stopped wanting it. And Baines...the Everton man himself. What a guy.

I've never felt so pleased in defeat. We've just got to believe in ourselves more and go for the jugular from the off. Get through this awful injury period, add a couple in key positions in January, and just go for it until the season is done.

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The agony and the ecstasy of being a Blue distilled into a single game, I nearly took my lad's head off after that mercurial Baines strike. Then he misses a pen.

Ah well we'd never have won the thing anyway, probably best to get the disappointment out of the way early.

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Thought second half was quality and a real credit to what Dunc has brought to the side. Determination and a never say die attitude.  We knocked and knocked and eventually got our reward.

Just a shame the pens didn't work out.  Disappointing pen for Baines.

Good to see the 2 lads slot them away after

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Absolutely gutted quarter final of a cup competition, it’s not like the league you don’t get a chance to put it right next game or the game after, we are out so no positives for me pure disappointment and nothing else. 

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4 hours ago, Sibdane said:

Who says Baines doesn't influence games?

Oh yeah.. pete0.

Probs should've waited until after that pen. Him and Tosun never looked like bagging theirs. Davies was much more influencential, incredibly so if you look at the players around him. Carried Holgate, was surrounded by Mina, Bernard, and Iwobi who probs had their worse games in a blue shirt, plus Keane being his usual dog shit as well. 

Special mention for the ref though for letting Shitmeichel have a little dance in front of every pen after letting the me-Leicesters touched us up all over the field. Absolute joke of a 'preformance' from him. Persistently in the way of passes with him almost being a twelve man at times blocking the lines, blew twice for their subs just after we played the ball. Free kicks were much easier to get for them than us as well. Even overruled the linesman for one even though she was closer to it. Rogers subbed Perez to save him from a card as he should have been booked about 3 times but the ref just gave him a talk instead. Did he even book a single player? 

3 hours ago, DownUnderToff said:

Terrible first half, Dunc should've hooked Iwobi far earlier, poor penalties (particularly Tosun up first) but an enjoyable game.

Tbf Bernard was just as poor, had to be him or Iwobi at half time. Personally would've gone for Gordan over Kean though. Really odd sub, more so to then move DCL to the wing instead of Richarlison who exels at LM. 

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For all the replies to my post earlier, thank you!

My lad had a great time, I haven’t saw him get into a football match this much before. Don’t think I could have taken him to a more up and down match haha! He was shaking by the end of it.

Could have had something to do with me lifting him up like a cup when our second went in.... and nearly throwing him on to the pitch from the Paddock haha! 
only regret is seeing his face when we lost on penalty’s 🙁

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11 hours ago, nogs said:

Oh well. Tosun and Baines's pens were shite, Baines can have a pass but not sure what we pay Tosun's wages for. 

Fabulous fight back 2nd half though, we can hold our head up high and more of the same Saturday we'll stuff Arsenal.

Longer term, whoever comes in I just don't know what they do about some of the overpriced overpaid shite we call players. Iwobi, Keane first half, Bernard who was so bad he got pulled instead of Iwobi... Just so many players on our books who individually are not up to scratch. It doesn't matter who is in charge, what tactics you play, our recruitment continues to be very, very worrying

How can you not mention Mina?! He played like he'd been sniffing the Colombian powder!

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Disappointed with going out, obviously, and the first half 'performance', but we showed a lot of fight in the second half and that was really pleasing. I thought the game was gone after the second goal for Leicester but we didn't give up, that's a quality we've lacked for quite some time now.

A few weeks ago we didn't look like we had a lot to work with if a new manager came in, but we are showing signs of life now. We have things to build on.

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Well it was certainly an eventful game. A massive positive for me was the fact that we didn't crumble after the second goal and end up shipping 5 or 6. I think it would've have been a different story had Silva still been in charge. There is plenty of fight in that team, which is something they've not shown much of prior to the last 3 games. Those two missed headed chance from Mina were unbelievable. The second one especially... it looked like all he had to do was fall forward and he would have scored.

The pens, the pens, the pens. Baines was definitely the one person you'd expect to score their pen; you could see how furious he was with himself by his reaction after it was saved. Credit to Tosun for stepping up to take one, but ffs I think any of us would've stood a good chance of saving his pen.

Disappointed, but not disheartened... bring on Arsenal. Now that's something I'd never expected myself to say.

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12 hours ago, pete0 said:

Probs should've waited until after that pen. Him and Tosun never looked like bagging theirs. Davies was much more influencential, incredibly so if you look at the players around him. Carried Holgate, was surrounded by Mina, Bernard, and Iwobi who probs had their worse games in a blue shirt, plus Keane being his usual dog shit as well. 

Special mention for the ref though for letting Shitmeichel have a little dance in front of every pen after letting the me-Leicesters touched us up all over the field. Absolute joke of a 'preformance' from him. Persistently in the way of passes with him almost being a twelve man at times blocking the lines, blew twice for their subs just after we played the ball. Free kicks were much easier to get for them than us as well. Even overruled the linesman for one even though she was closer to it. Rogers subbed Perez to save him from a card as he should have been booked about 3 times but the ref just gave him a talk instead. Did he even book a single player? 

Tbf Bernard was just as poor, had to be him or Iwobi at half time. Personally would've gone for Gordan over Kean though. Really odd sub, more so to then move DCL to the wing instead of Richarlison who exels at LM. 

I stand by what I said. Without Baines we don't even make it to penalties. 99% of the time Baines makes those. He was our designated penalty taker at one point after all.

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1 hour ago, Sibdane said:

I stand by what I said. Without Baines we don't even make it to penalties. 99% of the time Baines makes those. He was our designated penalty taker at one point after all.

Without Davies you wouldn't either. 

Baines is 26/30 after last night's miss. Still very admirable. 

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1 minute ago, pete0 said:

Without Davies you wouldn't either. 

Baines is 26/30 after last night's miss. Still very admirable. 

Bud, I'm not even talking about Davies. I like him, but that doesn't take away Baines' influence over the last decade. 

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You can blame one of many for Maddisons goal, we had six men marking two of theirs in the six yard box. Could also blame Baines cos when the winger got the ball out wide Baines was 10 yards away from him and for every yard the winger took forward Baines took one back and gave him acres of space and time to cross it where ever he wanted.

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16 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

You mean with the exception of leaving Maddison absolutely wide open to score the first?

Mina and Keane were both stood on Vardy on the edge of the 6 yard box. A CM would expect the space Maddison wandered into to be occupied by one of his centre backs

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5 hours ago, nogs said:

Mina and Keane were both stood on Vardy on the edge of the 6 yard box. A CM would expect the space Maddison wandered into to be occupied by one of his centre backs

I disagree, that man is Holgate's all day long. Holgate's eyes never leave the ball, he isn't open to or expecting the run.  

I would agree that Keane and Coleman should have communicated better so that he got more of a heads up of the run but Holgate put himself in the space and then just got dragged too much to the ball. It happens, no player is perfect. 

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22 hours ago, Bill said:

You can blame one of many for Maddisons goal, we had six men marking two of theirs in the six yard box. Could also blame Baines cos when the winger got the ball out wide Baines was 10 yards away from him and for every yard the winger took forward Baines took one back and gave him acres of space and time to cross it where ever he wanted.

Just watched the highlights. If that was Sidibe or Coleman there'd be a lot more noise. 

Baines was lucky with the goal as well, was aiming for the other corner but sliced it. 

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3 hours ago, pete0 said:

Just watched the highlights. If that was Sidibe or Coleman there'd be a lot more noise. 

Baines was lucky with the goal as well, was aiming for the other corner but sliced it. 

 Yeah of course he was aiming to hit the other corner.... with 3 players directly in that path.  

It's amazing.... players like Baines and Gerrard.  People have believed they were pure ball strikers for years. Little did they know that they were lucky....

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38 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

 Yeah of course he was aiming to hit the other corner.... with 3 players directly in that path.  

It's amazing.... players like Baines and Gerrard.  People have believed they were pure ball strikers for years. Little did they know that they were lucky....

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He's definitely got the "outside of the boot swerve to the left" in his locker, seen it before; free kick against Newcastle for one. 100% intentional for me, no question.

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37 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

is the keeper positioned incorrectly and baines saw it and nipped it in?  or was it just a gamble and he succeded?  Beautiful goal.  just lovely to watch.

The 'keeper is positioned just fine but his view is blocked by the defender and attacker in the way, meaning that he sees the shot late which, coupled with the fact that it was hit at serious pace means that he never really stood a chance. 

When you watch the goal back the ball hits the very corner of the net so even with an outstretched arm and a big dive the ball was always going to go in. A wonderful strike that you just have to applaud really and something that Leighton has always had in his locker. 

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3 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

The 'keeper is positioned just fine but his view is blocked by the defender and attacker in the way, meaning that he sees the shot late which, coupled with the fact that it was hit at serious pace means that he never really stood a chance. 

When you watch the goal back the ball hits the very corner of the net so even with an outstretched arm and a big dive the ball was always going to go in. A wonderful strike that you just have to applaud really and something that Leighton has always had in his locker. 

Was just starting to post something very similar Zoo but you saved me the trouble, agree completely. Two 'keepers wouldn't have saved that.

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4 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

The 'keeper is positioned just fine but his view is blocked by the defender and attacker in the way, meaning that he sees the shot late which, coupled with the fact that it was hit at serious pace means that he never really stood a chance. 

When you watch the goal back the ball hits the very corner of the net so even with an outstretched arm and a big dive the ball was always going to go in. A wonderful strike that you just have to applaud really and something that Leighton has always had in his locker. 

thanks @Zoo 2.0 !  nice to get a keepers perspective.  

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5 hours ago, pete0 said:

Just watched the highlights. If that was Sidibe or Coleman there'd be a lot more noise. 

Baines was lucky with the goal as well, was aiming for the other corner but sliced it. 

Pete that is one of the most ridiculous comments you have ever made 

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

He's definitely got the "outside of the boot swerve to the left" in his locker, seen it before; free kick against Newcastle for one. 100% intentional for me, no question.

Yep...It is far easier to hit a ball across the path.  Same as golf, club head vs path = spin. Unless path and strike are 100% you will get left or right spin. 

Paul Scholes always said he would aim straight and hit hard, 9/10 The momentum of the ball left or right across the foot would give him the curve required to wrong foot the keeper 

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2 hours ago, Hafnia said:

 Yeah of course he was aiming to hit the other corner.... with 3 players directly in that path.  

It's amazing.... players like Baines and Gerrard.  People have believed they were pure ball strikers for years. Little did they know that they were lucky....

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Watch the video he slices it. 

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6 hours ago, pete0 said:

Just watched the highlights. If that was Sidibe or Coleman there'd be a lot more noise. 

Baines was lucky with the goal as well, was aiming for the other corner but sliced it. 

Why don’t you like us? What did we ever do to upset you so much?

I really don’t get it PeteO.

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1 hour ago, Shukes said:

Why don’t you like us? What did we ever do to upset you so much?

I really don’t get it PeteO.

What you on about? I celebrated his goal regardless if it was in the corner he meant. 

I'm happy with what Baines has given the club just don't think he's world class. 

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3 hours ago, pete0 said:

What you on about? I celebrated his goal regardless if it was in the corner he meant. 

I'm happy with what Baines has given the club just don't think he's world class. 

I’d be surprised if there’s anyone on here that is suggesting he’s world class 🤷‍♂️ - he’s been a great servant to our club, a role model and leader. On top of that he knows he wasn’t going to get many games this year but as soon as he was needed he’s stepped up yet again. 

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5 hours ago, pete0 said:

Just over a minute you can see him go to lace it but slices it. 1:30 you can see him look at the other side to pick his spot. But let me guess he's just giving the keeper the 👀... 

 

Let's be honest Pete, you wouldn't even know.

Most people have absolutely no idea how good the elite ball strikers are.... absolutely none.  Take your better Sunday league player who can hit a ball pretty well and multiply it by a hundred and you may get close.  Ever been up close to someone who strikes a ball properly? I'm not talking 20 ft, I'm talking 4ft.....

I play golf with Jim Harvey - ex Tranmere player quite often.  He was their free kick specialist. He made adjustments based on ball, temperature the lot.  Hit bags and bags of balls at Nixon to the point he could repeat the same kick over and over again and he wasn't at Baines level. 

Players at that level don't fluke - the aim for a bin lid sized target and don't stray too far from that. 

But hey..... I guess if it was Chris Brunt you would make the rhetoric work eh. 

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1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Let's be honest Pete, you wouldn't even know.

Most people have absolutely no idea how good the elite ball strikers are.... absolutely none.  Take your better Sunday league player who can hit a ball pretty well and multiply it by a hundred and you may get close.  Ever been up close to someone who strikes a ball properly? I'm not talking 20 ft, I'm talking 4ft.....

I play golf with Jim Harvey - ex Tranmere player quite often.  He was their free kick specialist. He made adjustments based on ball, temperature the lot.  Hit bags and bags of balls at Nixon to the point he could repeat the same kick over and over again and he wasn't at Baines level. 

Players at that level don't fluke - the aim for a bin lid sized target and don't stray too far from that. 

But hey..... I guess if it was Chris Brunt you would make the rhetoric work eh. 

League players are very capable. What separates good players from great players is how often you can do it. 

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11 hours ago, pete0 said:

What you on about? I celebrated his goal regardless if it was in the corner he meant. 

I'm happy with what Baines has given the club just don't think he's world class. 

Then why do you feel the need to downplay it? This is what I don’t understand about you.

I was moaning about Sidibe loads e last few weeks, then gave him MoM because he simply deserved it.

You Del to make up your mind about someone, and then fight against anything positive they do. I just don’t get it.

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1 hour ago, Aidan said:

League players are very capable. What separates good players from great players is how often you can do it. 

Baines averages less than one goal from open play a season. Very much doubt he's meant to slice it into the near side after checking the far side. 

42 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Then why do you feel the need to downplay it? This is what I don’t understand about you.

I was moaning about Sidibe loads e last few weeks, then gave him MoM because he simply deserved it.

You Del to make up your mind about someone, and then fight against anything positive they do. I just don’t get it.

He was at fault for the first goal, we conceded a few chances down his side, yet people give him motm because he fluked a goal. Compare that to Davies who scored a whopper and meant it, talked Holgate through the game (who was needing to drop deeper/safer as he struggled with less time in the ball with the Leicester players breathing down his neck) and in general made the most of what he could even though he had two wingers who couldn't hold onto the ball, an anonymous Brazilian up top, Mina behind him having his worst game for us with Keane next to him scared of the ball. Yet the young local lad helped us rally a draw and held his own against one of the best midfields in the league yet everyone is talking about Baines rolling back the years when all he done was score a hit and hope that he sliced. 

Check my motm voting even Michael Keane got a vote from me last year. Credit where it is due. 

 

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2 hours ago, pete0 said:

Baines averages less than one goal from open play a season. Very much doubt he's meant to slice it into the near side after checking the far side. 

He was at fault for the first goal, we conceded a few chances down his side, yet people give him motm because he fluked a goal. Compare that to Davies who scored a whopper and meant it, talked Holgate through the game (who was needing to drop deeper/safer as he struggled with less time in the ball with the Leicester players breathing down his neck) and in general made the most of what he could even though he had two wingers who couldn't hold onto the ball, an anonymous Brazilian up top, Mina behind him having his worst game for us with Keane next to him scared of the ball. Yet the young local lad helped us rally a draw and held his own against one of the best midfields in the league yet everyone is talking about Baines rolling back the years when all he done was score a hit and hope that he sliced. 

Check my motm voting even Michael Keane got a vote from me last year. Credit where it is due. 

 

I was there. He looked like a senior player as he stepped in numerous occasions and cut out passes, made blocks and tackles. Then scored a great goal.

Sometimes it takes a big man to admit he was wrong.

You will never do it, if accepted that. I just don’t understand it, no matter how much you try to make me realise your right haha.

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4 hours ago, Shukes said:

I was there. He looked like a senior player as he stepped in numerous occasions and cut out passes, made blocks and tackles. Then scored a great goal.

Sometimes it takes a big man to admit he was wrong.

You will never do it, if accepted that. I just don’t understand it, no matter how much you try to make me realise your right haha.

He was at fault for the goal and we consistently more vulnerable on his side. Scoring a whopper doesn't paper over what was mostly an average performance. 

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8 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He was at fault for the goal and we consistently more vulnerable on his side. Scoring a whopper doesn't paper over what was mostly an average performance. 

Why don’t you keep saying “I’m a millionaire” over and over again. It will come true, honest!

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