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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

10m is cheap but he's 29 so i would say that is understandable.  i know very little about him but he sounds like what we need.  the gana replacement.

Back up  / competition for Gambin. Means Delphs days are numbered if true...

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

10m is cheap but he's 29 so i would say that is understandable.  i know very little about him but he sounds like what we need.  the gana replacement.

He cost Napoli £10m. He would cost us far more.

If he came, he’d be the 1st name on the team sheet.

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Here’s what PSG were reported to have been quoted when interested in November...

’ The player, for his part, would be tempted by an experience in the French capital but Napoli are asking for a lot of money for the player, around 120 million euros. PSG, instead, would be willing to offer 80 million plus bonuses.‘

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1 hour ago, c1982 said:

He cost Napoli £10m. He would cost us far more.

If he came, he’d be the 1st name on the team sheet.

Oh wow, didn’t know that, thank you.  Well not sure how likely it is then.  He doesn’t fit the brands 26 and under profile either.

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Oh wow, didn’t know that, thank you.  Well not sure how likely it is then.  He doesn’t fit the brands 26 and under profile either.

Unfortunately we need someone for now.

Gomes/Gbamin are young enough. Davies stays because of age but needs to push on.

anderian is looking good in the 23’s. 

Simply put - Delph plays like a kid coming in from the 23’s, stupid, irrational and rushed.

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3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

42m?  hell no.  that's the whole transfer kitty.  just get a loan or something to get us through to summer.  this guy is 29 there is no sell on, his positino players don't last very long, could be done in 2 years time and were stuck with the costs.  a no from me.

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27 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Could he play in a flat pack 4?

I don’t know to much about him but Ancelotti knows him, so I can only assume he is capable of playing in the system the manager wants or why would he go for him. 

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42 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Could he play in a flat pack 4?

 

4 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

😂

 

4 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

😂

That went straight over my head caught hook line and sinker 😎

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

42m?  hell no.  that's the whole transfer kitty.  just get a loan or something to get us through to summer.  this guy is 29 there is no sell on, his positino players don't last very long, could be done in 2 years time and were stuck with the costs.  a no from me.

If he is that good why not? We can’t buy everyone as an up and coming talent, we need to buy players who can come in and do the job right now. If Carlo thinks he will help the team then we need to trust his judgement. If we get four years out of him then it’s job done. 

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

42m?  hell no.  that's the whole transfer kitty.  just get a loan or something to get us through to summer.  this guy is 29 there is no sell on, his positino players don't last very long, could be done in 2 years time and were stuck with the costs.  a no from me.

Yeah move on, should be getting this type of player when he joined Napoli.

I'd rather go and try get the player from Leeds

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1 hour ago, StevO said:

If he is that good why not? We can’t buy everyone as an up and coming talent, we need to buy players who can come in and do the job right now. If Carlo thinks he will help the team then we need to trust his judgement. If we get four years out of him then it’s job done. 

Because we dont have the ffp room...?

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1 minute ago, chicagoblue said:

Because we dont have the ffp room...?

The club don’t seem too concerned about it. 
If we were in breach we wouldn’t do it. The club would make it absolutely clear that if FFP was a reason for us not buying players we would know about it. It would just shut the fans up straight away. 

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1 hour ago, Cisk said:

Yeah move on, should be getting this type of player when he joined Napoli.

I'd rather go and try get the player from Leeds

Phillips? Looks very good - he’s a massive Leeds boy but imagine he’ll be in the Prem next season regardless of whether they go up. He’d probably cost about £30m though - younger but probably not as good... yet. Let’s not forget about Gbamin.

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3 hours ago, StevO said:

If he is that good why not? We can’t buy everyone as an up and coming talent, we need to buy players who can come in and do the job right now. If Carlo thinks he will help the team then we need to trust his judgement. If we get four years out of him then it’s job done. 

Then we are in the gylfi situation all over again.  Massive fee and wages and were stuck since we bought them at the end of their prime.

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8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Then we are in the gylfi situation all over again.  Massive fee and wages and were stuck since we bought them at the end of their prime.

Sign him on a 3 year contract. Problem solved.

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11 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Then we are in the gylfi situation all over again.  Massive fee and wages and were stuck since we bought them at the end of their prime.

If you’re a selling club then that’s an problem, if you want to be at the top end of the league it needs to be more about the impact on the team not on the accounts. 

On Gylfi, signing a 27 year old on a five year contract wasn’t bad. It’s the price you have to pay to get players in their prime. 
 

We have to have experienced players in the team, it’s an absolute must. They have to be the right experienced players, but that means having lads who aren’t 23 on the pitch.
If only we had a 34 year old Gareth Barry on the pitch on Tuesday night, or even Phil Jagielka for that matter. 
 

If this lad is the experienced player Carlo wants in his team he’s the player we need. 

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

If you’re a selling club then that’s an problem, if you want to be at the top end of the league it needs to be more about the impact on the team not on the accounts. 

On Gylfi, signing a 27 year old on a five year contract wasn’t bad. It’s the price you have to pay to get players in their prime. 
 

We have to have experienced players in the team, it’s an absolute must. They have to be the right experienced players, but that means having lads who aren’t 23 on the pitch.
If only we had a 34 year old Gareth Barry on the pitch on Tuesday night, or even Phil Jagielka for that matter. 
 

If this lad is the experienced player Carlo wants in his team he’s the player we need. 

Honestly I think every club is a selling club unless you are Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Barca, or Bayern.  They are the only ones so flush with cash and so welL positioned FFP wise they don’t have to sell.  Every other team in the world sells their best players to those teams so yes we are a selling team.  Nothing to be ashamed of with that.  Even with SAF United was a selling team offloading Ronaldo and Beckham.  

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23 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Honestly I think every club is a selling club unless you are Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Barca, or Bayern.  They are the only ones so flush with cash and so welL positioned FFP wise they don’t have to sell.  Every other team in the world sells their best players to those teams so yes we are a selling team.  Nothing to be ashamed of with that.  Even with SAF United was a selling team offloading Ronaldo and Beckham.  

So for that reason we should only buy young players who will be more valuable in the future and not buy players who are at their peak now? What happens if those young players don’t get better and their value decreases?

I want players who can improve the team now. 

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I understand to an extent from where MJB is coming from.  We have been stung a fair bit in the past few years by paying over the odds for average players that haven't improved the squad and have given us problems in trying to move them on. 

The price we paid and the amount they earn per week isn't the reason for that though, it's because we chased players that weren't suited to what we wanted to do as a club. Get the scouting right and price won't matter as you will always be finding value.

 

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3 hours ago, Bailey said:

I understand to an extent from where MJB is coming from.  We have been stung a fair bit in the past few years by paying over the odds for average players that haven't improved the squad and have given us problems in trying to move them on. 

The price we paid and the amount they earn per week isn't the reason for that though, it's because we chased players that weren't suited to what we wanted to do as a club. Get the scouting right and price won't matter as you will always be finding value.

 

An example being Richarlison who we "broke the market" with and who, 18 months later,is one of the more promising young players in world football and likely worth twice what we paid.

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4 hours ago, SpartyBlue said:

An example being Richarlison who we "broke the market" with and who, 18 months later,is one of the more promising young players in world football and likely worth twice what we paid.

Not a good example in my opinion because he was so young.  Bailey and I are talkin g about the gylfi Walcott type signings where they are 28-29 when brought in and aren’t young anymore.  So if they don’t work out we’ve paid for a player in their prime and will lose money because they are then past their prime.

 

richarlisonn was 21 and the world his oyster.  It was a big fee due to the watford Silva fiasco as well.  Probably more like 30-35 in reality which is what we paid for bolasie and he sucked so I think it was a fine deal.

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