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They are in a transitional stage with Arteta but he's not doing well and their squad is disjointed.  Their backline is weak and should be exploited.  I'd like to see us go for it.  A draw would be acceptable but honestly i believe 3 points is there for the taking.  HIt them early and get them to lose confidence.  I'm hoping Walcott (never thought i'd say that) and Bernard are fit after the break and time off.

 

                          Pickford

      Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

      Walcott Morgan Davies Bernard

                     DCL Richarlison

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I don’t mean to be a knob but I can’t stand watching davies most of the time. He’s so slow and easily knocked off the ball. Arsenal are piss poor at the back and nearly as bad as us in the middle of the park. Not sure Carlo fancies Bernie away from home either. 
                          Pickford 

coleman       Holgate.   Mina.     Digne 

walcott         Gomes   Morgan.    Bernie

                     DCl.       Charly 

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9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

They are in a transitional stage with Arteta but he's not doing well and their squad is disjointed.  Their backline is weak and should be exploited.  I'd like to see us go for it.  A draw would be acceptable but honestly i believe 3 points is there for the taking.  HIt them early and get them to lose confidence.  I'm hoping Walcott (never thought i'd say that) and Bernard are fit after the break and time off.

 

                          Pickford

      Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

      Walcott Morgan Davies Bernard

                     DCL Richarlison

I like this line up, and I want to see Davies play as I think next to Morgan (when he is in the mood) he is the best fit midfielder we have. Gomes should be on the bench so bye bye Gylfi!!

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Don't get me wrong, I don't think we have anything to fear against Arsenal but anyone thinking that this will be an easy win need to have a look at themselves (not specifically anyone on here, Twitter mostly). They are still a good side capable of hurting anyone on their day and they've got home advantage - not to mention that they've now got a very good manager in Arteta. They're in a transitional stage at the moment but will be a different beast once he's had time to mould them and has had a summer window to get rid of the deadwood and bring in his own players, I just hope that they continue to be hot and cold and have one of their off days against us. 

Coleman, Holgate, Mina and Digne as the back line for me (JP in goal). Schneiderlin in the middle with Andre Gomes (if fit) alongside to play box to box, if not then I'd give Sigurdsson the nod again although I thought he was a bit anonymous against Palace. 

Arsenal have a real Achilles heel in their centre back pairing for me, David Luiz I've never understood the fascination with and Mustafi has been stealing a living for a while now. Both DCL and Kean up front bullying them would work well IMO with Richarlison and Bernard operating as inside forwards, basically giving us four options in the final third to attack with.

1 hour ago, Finn balor said:

Delph is back ................... just saying 

I'd have him as the last option to be honest, I don't think he has done anything of note to justify walking straight back into the XI. Long term I'd be happy with calling it a day with him in summer too, just don't think he's the kind of player that we need going forward.

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49 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Don't get me wrong, I don't think we have anything to fear against Arsenal but anyone thinking that this will be an easy win need to have a look at themselves (not specifically anyone on here, Twitter mostly). They are still a good side capable of hurting anyone on their day and they've got home advantage - not to mention that they've now got a very good manager in Arteta. They're in a transitional stage at the moment but will be a different beast once he's had time to mould them and has had a summer window to get rid of the deadwood and bring in his own players, I just hope that they continue to be hot and cold and have one of their off days against us. 

Coleman, Holgate, Mina and Digne as the back line for me (JP in goal). Schneiderlin in the middle with Andre Gomes (if fit) alongside to play box to box, if not then I'd give Sigurdsson the nod again although I thought he was a bit anonymous against Palace. 

Arsenal have a real Achilles heel in their centre back pairing for me, David Luiz I've never understood the fascination with and Mustafi has been stealing a living for a while now. Both DCL and Kean up front bullying them would work well IMO with Richarlison and Bernard operating as inside forwards, basically giving us four options in the final third to attack with.

I'd have him as the last option to be honest, I don't think he has done anything of note to justify walking straight back into the XI. Long term I'd be happy with calling it a day with him in summer too, just don't think he's the kind of player that we need going forward.

Aubameyang and Lacazette always have a goal in them, that is the only threat that worries me.  If we can shut them down we can get points.

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Arsenal are a very weird team right now. They are much more together now but they still seem to make a howler. I saw them away at Burnley and they started bright and then ran out of ideas and got bullied. A lot of teams are like that at Turf Moor so its not a surprise. They should have had the game as good as won in the opening half hour but when they didn't their heads dropped at bit and so did their intensity. If we aren't at it those first 20-30 minutes will be tough. 

Having said that there probably isn't a better time to play Arsenal. They can still be bullied, they still make mistakes because of their shocking centre backs, and their main two attackers look short of confidence. Lacazette in particular is really struggling. 

I wouldn't change a lot in terms of the starting line-up. I'd want Coleman against Lacazette, I'd want Bernard starting. I wouldn't want Davies or Delph starting for the U23s let alone the first team. The question is what happens to Walcott. Move Richarlison right and lose him up front, bring in Iwobi and lose the directness and pace that Walcott is in the team for, or test Gordon in that position. It's a tough one but as far as I'm concerned as long as it's anyone but Sidibe.

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

Arsenal are a very weird team right now. They are much more together now but they still seem to make a howler. I saw them away at Burnley and they started bright and then ran out of ideas and got bullied. A lot of teams are like that at Turf Moor so its not a surprise. They should have had the game as good as won in the opening half hour but when they didn't their heads dropped at bit and so did their intensity. If we aren't at it those first 20-30 minutes will be tough. 

Having said that there probably isn't a better time to play Arsenal. They can still be bullied, they still make mistakes because of their shocking centre backs, and their main two attackers look short of confidence. Lacazette in particular is really struggling. 

I wouldn't change a lot in terms of the starting line-up. I'd want Coleman against Lacazette, I'd want Bernard starting. I wouldn't want Davies or Delph starting for the U23s let alone the first team. The question is what happens to Walcott. Move Richarlison right and lose him up front, bring in Iwobi and lose the directness and pace that Walcott is in the team for, or test Gordon in that position. It's a tough one but as far as I'm concerned as long as it's anyone but Sidibe.

If Walcott wasn’t available you could also put Richarlison on the right and start Kean with DCL. 
Arsenal aren’t bad if you stand off them and just try to defend, but press them in their own half and rough their MF and strikers up they struggle. 
Their defenders are poor their MF are poor without time and space to work in and their forwards have become lazy because they don’t see much of the ball. 
The Wenger day’s are well and truly over for this set of players and Arteta isn’t having much of an impact on them since going there. 
If we didn’t win this I would disappointed, we are very much the better team. 

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If I remember correctly, we have never defeated Arsenal at the Emirates. This seems like it would be a good time to do so. In all honestly, Carlo has had a favorable run of fixtures and he has taken care of business. This one will be a test. I hope 3 points is in order.

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On 09/02/2020 at 00:38, London Blue said:

I like this line up, and I want to see Davies play as I think next to Morgan (when he is in the mood) he is the best fit midfielder we have. Gomes should be on the bench so bye bye Gylfi!!

I thought Siggy had a good second half against Palace and was fairly solid throughout. He wouldn’t be in my long term plans but then neither would Morgan or Davies. Can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d probably stick with Siggy and Morgan in the middle and replace either when Gomes is back fully fit. 

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12 hours ago, Palfy said:

That would scare the fuck out of there defenders, but please there midfielders. 

The idea would be to bypass their midfield completely, or at least gave them so far sat back that they’re just nonexistent 

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16 hours ago, barryj said:

I thought Siggy had a good second half against Palace and was fairly solid throughout. He wouldn’t be in my long term plans but then neither would Morgan or Davies. Can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d probably stick with Siggy and Morgan in the middle and replace either when Gomes is back fully fit. 

I thought Siggy was awful myself, anonymous for the most part, hesitant in where he should be, which is understandable as he is not a natural midfielder, and slow in moving the ball on. He leaves gaps in midfield and it just feels our midfield is weak with him in it. He did well in his attempt on goal, but that was about it. He has not delivered many assists or goals, and as you say he is not part of the long term plan and will probably go in the summer.

Then again maybe I am being too critical?

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On 09/02/2020 at 19:17, Palfy said:

If Walcott wasn’t available you could also put Richarlison on the right and start Kean with DCL. 
Arsenal aren’t bad if you stand off them and just try to defend, but press them in their own half and rough their MF and strikers up they struggle. 
Their defenders are poor their MF are poor without time and space to work in and their forwards have become lazy because they don’t see much of the ball. 
The Wenger day’s are well and truly over for this set of players and Arteta isn’t having much of an impact on them since going there. 
If we didn’t win this I would disappointed, we are very much the better team. 

Basically everything you have said there is applicable to us as well. The slight difference is that DCL and Richarlison are a threat up front. Change that to Kean and DCL and it's much less of a threat IMO. 

On 11/02/2020 at 16:38, London Blue said:

I thought Siggy was awful myself, anonymous for the most part, hesitant in where he should be, which is understandable as he is not a natural midfielder, and slow in moving the ball on. He leaves gaps in midfield and it just feels our midfield is weak with him in it. He did well in his attempt on goal, but that was about it. He has not delivered many assists or goals, and as you say he is not part of the long term plan and will probably go in the summer.

Then again maybe I am being too critical?

Awful is too far IMO, but he just didn't impact the game enough for the first 60 odd minutes. We were dominant in midfield for that first half so he must have been doing something right even if he didn't stand out for it.

He got more involved once we went to a 5 man midfield as you'd expect.

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On 11/02/2020 at 16:38, London Blue said:

I thought Siggy was awful myself, anonymous for the most part, hesitant in where he should be, which is understandable as he is not a natural midfielder, and slow in moving the ball on. He leaves gaps in midfield and it just feels our midfield is weak with him in it. He did well in his attempt on goal, but that was about it. He has not delivered many assists or goals, and as you say he is not part of the long term plan and will probably go in the summer.

Then again maybe I am being too critical?

Not all all and I agree for the most part this season. I just thought he put his foot in in the second half, was controlled and was one of his better performances this season. I guess everything is relative! 

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36 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

They will be very confident after that.  We are a good side though and Newcastle are not.  I’m hoping we can get out front early to dent their confidence.

Your right not the result we wanted to see just before we go there, but I’m still confident we can get a win. 

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I actually thought Arsenal did a good job of winning the ball back and controlling the game. 

They were shocking against the counter attack at times though and in the first half they were really poor when it came to putting a few passes together in the final third. They all seemed to want to run with the ball. When they moved the ball quicker, which they did at the end of the first and then into the second half they created chances. 

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The wait is almost over... COYB!

       Pickford

      Sidibé  Mina  Holgate  Digne

      Walcott  Gomes  Delph  Bernard

          DC-L  Richarlison

 

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8 minutes ago, Heath said:

 

The wait is almost over... COYB!

       Pickford

      Sidibé  Mina  Holgate  Digne

      Walcott  Gomes  Delph  Bernard

          DC-L  Richarlison

 

Don't think Gomes will start will he? Carlo knows best but I'd be happy just to have him on the bench.

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14 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Don't think Gomes will start will he? Carlo knows best but I'd be happy just to have him on the bench.

He’s actually made it sound like he’ll start him. Said he didn’t see the benefit of having him come on from the bench.

Why would anyone have Delph near the side though?!

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

He’s actually made it sound like he’ll start him. Said he didn’t see the benefit of having him come on from the bench.

Why would anyone have Delph near the side though?!

Not seen that; but as I said Carlo knows best.

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3 hours ago, Heath said:

 

The wait is almost over... COYB!

       Pickford

      Sidibé  Mina  Holgate  Digne

      Walcott  Gomes  Delph  Bernard

          DC-L  Richarlison

 

Maybe I’d go with Schneiderlin over Delph, but either way I’d like to see that team take it to the gooners 

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18 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

He’s actually made it sound like he’ll start him. Said he didn’t see the benefit of having him come on from the bench.

Why would anyone have Delph near the side though?!

Yeah his reasoning was not one I've heard before, stating it makes sense for him to warm up properly and start, than to sit on the bench to come on.

I suppose there's sense in what he's saying. 

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Looks like Walcott will miss this one.  Also they have Aubameyang and Saka flying down the left in form at the moment.  Not sure I would start Sidibe or Gordon for this one.

                          Pickford

         Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

    Richarlison Gomes Morgan Bernard

                           DCL Kean

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13 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

Looks like Walcott will miss this one.  Also they have Aubameyang and Saka flying down the left in form at the moment.  Not sure I would start Sidibe or Gordon for this one.

                          Pickford

         Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

    Richarlison Gomes Morgan Bernard

                           DCL Kean

Exactly why would prefer not to hang richarlison out to dry over there. Can't make our best player defend all game. If Gomes is going to start I'd also like to add some defensive cover on the wing so he doesn't have to go into so many tackles. 

Pickford

Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

Sidibe Gomes Morgan Bernard

Richarlison DCL

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5 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Exactly why would prefer not to hang richarlison out to dry over there. Can't make our best player defend all game. If Gomes is going to start I'd also like to add some defensive cover on the wing so he doesn't have to go into so many tackles. 

Pickford

Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

Sidibe Gomes Morgan Bernard

Richarlison DCL

I could get behind that starting lineup.  Could always switch to what I suggested if it doesn't work out.

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9 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Exactly why would prefer not to hang richarlison out to dry over there. Can't make our best player defend all game. If Gomes is going to start I'd also like to add some defensive cover on the wing so he doesn't have to go into so many tackles. 

Pickford

Coleman Mina Holgate Digne

Sidibe Gomes Morgan Bernard

Richarlison DCL

If that’s the mindset for Gomes he shouldn’t be near the field IMO

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7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Kean’s trickery would really confound that Arsenal defence, so I really hope he starts alongside Calvert-Lewin. 

I can't see any way he can displace Richarlison at the moment. Richarlison and Calvert Lewin are fast becoming the most potent front pair in the league. Only Man City and Liverpool have 2 strikers who have scored more and both can be caught. 

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Why such demand to have Moise Kean start. Almost every week I see these fantasy football line-ups pushing Richarlison out ot the wing to make way for Moise Kean. I want him to succeed as much as the next guy but Richarlison is a shoe in at the moment.

He and Calvert Lewin up front will terrorise Arsenal's feeble back 4. They won't know what to do. Our tactic should be to occupy those 2 defenders and force their fullbacks to defend constantly from the threat of a quick counter attack. Even if Gomes isn't passed fit our midfield of 4 should have enough to strangle their midfield trio and keep Arsenal's attack starved of the ball.

If we can shake them early with some good possession it will get the fans to turn and cause panic. An early goal should open the floodgates as they are compelled to get back in the game and offer us counter attacking opportunities.

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MOTD COMMENTATOR'S NOTES

Jonathan Pearce: Mikel Arteta holds the hearts of Arsenal and Everton supporters. He's fast winning over minds at the Emirates too.

Bernd Leno's performance at Olympiakos personified the improvement under the new head coach. He made good saves in his third consecutive clean sheet - his best run in four years - and his overall performance was authoritative.

Arteta has ensured defenders keep their position. He has restored purpose and happiness to the squad.

This will be a stiffer task than Thursday. Everton are genuine top-five candidates on the back of a five-match unbeaten run under Carlo Ancelotti.

Again, it's good man-management. Look at the improvement in Dominic Calvert-Lewin - six league goals in eight games.

The extra time to prepare could ensure a positive result for the visitors.

Shhhhhhhh man!

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57 minutes ago, MikeO said:

MOTD COMMENTATOR'S NOTES

Jonathan Pearce: Mikel Arteta holds the hearts of Arsenal and Everton supporters. He's fast winning over minds at the Emirates too.

Bernd Leno's performance at Olympiakos personified the improvement under the new head coach. He made good saves in his third consecutive clean sheet - his best run in four years - and his overall performance was authoritative.

Arteta has ensured defenders keep their position. He has restored purpose and happiness to the squad.

This will be a stiffer task than Thursday. Everton are genuine top-five candidates on the back of a five-match unbeaten run under Carlo Ancelotti.

Again, it's good man-management. Look at the improvement in Dominic Calvert-Lewin - six league goals in eight games.

The extra time to prepare could ensure a positive result for the visitors.

Shhhhhhhh man!

The last Arsenal Everton game I went to we got beat by a 10 man Arsenal, Koeman was manager and we were shite, tomorrow will be completely different we are far better and they are a lot worse, we have the players and momentum to go there and come away with the win. 

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Is the team sheet out yet? I'm still not sure on whether Gomes will start or if he should. If he is fit, the injury is healed and his head is prepared then he can go into the side but that would probably be a bit harsh on Sigurdsson who looked to have turned a corner recently.

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11 hours ago, Finn balor said:

Think this game could really determine our season. We beat these and we are a real threat to the top four. We lose and it’s same old same old. 

Yeah, we get nosebleeds if we're to near the top. 😃

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1 hour ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Is the team sheet out yet? I'm still not sure on whether Gomes will start or if he should. If he is fit, the injury is healed and his head is prepared then he can go into the side but that would probably be a bit harsh on Sigurdsson who looked to have turned a corner recently.

An hour before kick off. And that wouldn’t be harsh at all, it'd be deserved. 

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35 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

An hour before kick off. And that wouldn’t be harsh at all, it'd be deserved. 

I appreciate he has been disappointing, I'm just acknowledging he has had a bit of an up tick in performances along with Schneiderlin. Sometimes you have to let people get back into the groove.

That said, I ain't gonna second guess Ancelotti 😁

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1 hour ago, Bill said:

Yeah, we get nosebleeds if we're to near the top. 😃

I remember Moyes getting sports psychologists in because the players started doubting themselves, that they were good enough to get to the top 4. Players like Jagielka really benefitted from it.

Maybe Ancelotti has been putting an arm around some of them and saying "look if I think you are good enough then you are good enough"

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7 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

I remember Moyes getting sports psychologists in because the players started doubting themselves, that they were good enough to get to the top 4. Players like Jagielka really benefitted from it.

Maybe Ancelotti has been putting an arm around some of them and saying "look if I think you are good enough then you are good enough"

Lets hope!!

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2 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

I appreciate he has been disappointing, I'm just acknowledging he has had a bit of an up tick in performances along with Schneiderlin. Sometimes you have to let people get back into the groove.

That said, I ain't gonna second guess Ancelotti 😁

I'd argue he hasn't done that at all though myself.

And he's that slow and shit, he'll still be turning that corner next season when he's playing for a different club.

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I look at the Arsenal squad and I honestly don’t see anyone in their squad that I would want to replace one of ours on a like for like basis, for me we better or equal any of their players, that’s why we win today. 

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