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Poll: Finish or void the season

Poll: Should the league be voided or finished?   

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  1. 1. Should the league be voided or finished?

    • Void. Restart 20/21 with all the same teams as 19/20
      9
    • Void. Restart the season with 22 teams, the top 2 from the Championship
      4
    • Finish. Delay 20/21 until all games played.
      1
    • Finish. Use current points per game to determine
      2
    • Finish: Use mini play offs to determine
      1


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11 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i voted 2nd option but would like a third option.  

 

Void, bottom 3 dropped, top 3 championship promoted.  that simple.

That'd be the bottom option to use the points per game to determine the league. 

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Voted for the bottom option, but I really like the second option as well. Bias aside, I think it would be unfair to not give Pool the title and also not promote/relegate the teams that are in those spots. I think if their had been less games I would say void, but I think we have enough of a sample size to determine where most teams would/should finish. 

Just my opinion of course. 

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I think it's too early to say really, if the virus lasts in full force until August/September then I think the best solution would be to void the season and start the new one behind closed doors or with staggered seating in the crowd.

Taking bias out of the equation, every effort should be made to finish the season. If it was the other way around and we were 14,000 points clear you'd be miffed to say the least that the season had been cancelled, when so many options are still available. I'm personally in favour of temporarily restructuring the calendar so that the summer break moves to winter, which would help no end in 2022 when the World Cup starts in Qatar. 

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18 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Taking bias out of the equation, every effort should be made to finish the season. If it was the other way around and we were 14,000 points clear you'd be miffed to say the least that the season had been cancelled,

I'd be annoyed not to win but we all know the rules and personally I'd say they're fair. If Liverpool weren't who they are and hadn't won it in so long I don't even think it would be up for discussion. Well other than by the money people. Thing is it would be harsher on the teams relegated but all the focus just seems to be on whether Liverpool will win or not which just goes to show they're not really thinking what's best/fairest for everyone. 

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8 hours ago, MikeO said:

Bielsa bias?:P

I think it’s more unfair to those top league teams (lower leagues too) to say no you can’t be promoted.  If they finish the season then fair enough, but If they could it and that was my club I’d be so pissed.

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My choice would be the following, going on what the FA has said about lower leagues:

For the PL, take 2nd to 7th and have a play off competition / mini league to determine the CL and Europa spots. Take the bottom 5 of the PL and top 5 of the Championship and again have a play off competition. For the sake of money per position, the money should be pooled and split evenly to ensure that all clubs get some help. You could apply this approach to the other leagues too, extending to top + bottom 6  where it's tighter. It's not perfect but I think it would work as a compromise.

I'd also give that lot the title, because I'd rather wind them up about not really winning it, than listening about how they were cheated. They're bitter enough as it is, I couldn't listen to the bleating if they didn't get the title. 

 

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

I'd also give that lot the title, because I'd rather wind them up about not really winning it, than listening about how they were cheated. They're bitter enough as it is, I couldn't listen to the bleating if they didn't get the title. 

Good point that; if it happened their record would always have a * by 2019/20.

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29 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Good point that; if it happened their record would always have a * by 2019/20.

Exactly :) they think they have a title, everyone else knows they don’t!

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3 hours ago, pete0 said:

Now that makes complete sense and everyone will get over the decision in time. 
Just wish the powers to be had the balls and sense to do the same here. 

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6 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Now that makes complete sense and everyone will get over the decision in time. 
Just wish the powers to be had the balls and sense to do the same here. 

If City were sitting top there’s no doubt in my mind that the season would be null and void. 

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52 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Quite a few hours behind Pete there, Mike :lol: 

Didn't have the interview with Just Spee giving his thoughts on the rest of Europe in the Sky link though, that was a BBC exclusive which was why I posted it so feck off!:shakingfist:

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Not even arsed about footy.  This virus needs to get gone.  

Got pricks like Ollie Holt looking to get PPG (point a per game) as a solution.  .He should be highlighting PPE and the absence of it costing lives..... 

Football will not be back in the essence that we knew for quite some time and I'm ok with that. I'm not ok with humans losing lives and Journos being arsed about what they want as a fair outcome to a sport. 

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4 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Not even arsed about footy.  This virus needs to get gone.  

Got pricks like Ollie Holt looking to get PPG (point a per game) as a solution.  .He should be highlighting PPE and the absence of it costing lives..... 

Football will not be back in the essence that we knew for quite some time and I'm ok with that. I'm not ok with humans losing lives and Journos being arsed about what they want as a fair outcome to a sport. 

Make no mistake, they’re only arsed about getting the title to the shite. That’s it. They dress it up as a fight for fairness but it’s not that at all. 

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3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Make no mistake, they’re only arsed about getting the title to the shite. That’s it. They dress it up as a fight for fairness but it’s not that at all. 

That certainly seems to be the case.  It's an awful time to be a human - we are reliant on everyone thinking of each other and all people think of is themselves. 

I went to Costco today... not one person in the shop wearing a mask. 3 workers and that was it.... social distancing? Bollocks. Had to tell 2 women - one of whom had a 3 year old with her.  

Some fella smirked at me for weasring a mask and having my hood up.  The mind boggles.   

I wouldn't lift rstrictions.. I would double down and try and get true death figures out.

Two sporting events and a few pop concerts have certainly made this a long return back to normal life.

I would say "no sport, no footy, nothing, and nothing can be sorted till people behave responsibly".

Klopp certainly knew it wasn't right to play that game. 

 

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36 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

hat certainly seems to be the case.  It's an awful time to be a human - we are reliant on everyone thinking of each other and all people think of is themselves. 

I went to Costco today... not one person in the shop wearing a mask. 3 workers and that was it.... social distancing? Bollocks. Had to tell 2 women - one of whom had a 3 year old with her.  

Some fella smirked at me for weasring a mask and having my hood up.  The mind boggles.   

I wouldn't lift rstrictions.. I would double down and try and get true death figures out.

Haf I had a totally different experience today, my wife is "shielded" so it's down to me to go shop; everyone in there (Tescos) was doing what they had to do, it took a while as I had to follow the route around but nobody complained. Made it a huge point of thanking everyone working there from trolley attendants to check-out workers.

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10 hours ago, MikeO said:

Haf I had a totally different experience today, my wife is "shielded" so it's down to me to go shop; everyone in there (Tescos) was doing what they had to do, it took a while as I had to follow the route around but nobody complained. Made it a huge point of thanking everyone working there from trolley attendants to check-out workers.

Yeah my first experience at Costco 3 weeks ago was the same... except for one bloke walking round coughing into the air.

I spoke to a few workers to extend my appreciation. But everyone was fine.

For me complacency is kicking in.  There is a silent "I don't know what all the fuss Is about".... as time goes by and a population of people are unaffected and unaware they will do things that they shouldn't.   They will revert to the "its only the flu" type mentality that seen people flock to pubs on the Friday before lockdown. 

I watched the 25 minute covid documentary on netflix... very good. It shows how the flu in 1919 had different results in 2 different states.  One state had parades etc, St Louis shut down.  When it lifted the lockdown they had a spike and immediately shit down again. 

The big risk is that there are millions of animal viruses.... that theoretically shouldn't transfer to humans.  But I guess when you have a population of people eating disease carrying bats them you are screwed.  

 

 

 

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Wear face masks and no contact during free kicks or corners. First would make it dangerous and the second would give attackers far too much of an advantage plus the refs would only enforce it for their "big 6". 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/11981307/glenn-murray-labels-premier-league-face-mask-proposal-farcical?fbclid=IwAR1T4Ei6YWttGoXBV44w4m02Jhn32FwMYYISvBvOrBnAtqaacO7Gux-a2N8

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I was just talking to our local chemist, she should've run the London Marathon last week-end; got the choice of running in October or deferring her place until next year. If she'd opted for October and it was called off again she'd have lost her place completely. She chose to defer and run it next year because she has serious doubts it'll be able to go ahead in October.

8th June? No chance.

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19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

https://www.football365.com/news/pfa-chief-gordon-taylor-premier-league-project-restart-reduced-matches

Hmm, I thought they wanted to protect the integrity of the season? Not sure how that would be possible by playing the remaining games under different parameters.

It's pathetic... yes I get it, running away with the league and a global tragedy means you may not get to lift the trophy with satisfaction after 30 years of waiting... and they do deserve the win. They do, but tough. 

People are dying in their thousands across the globe every single day. Thats all that needs to be said.

Key workers are being exposed to a deadly disease by an inept government who can't even close borders/impose quarantine or safeguard the elderly in care homes.... yet footballers are being looked at as some sort of special test/retest population in the same of entertainment.

They want children to go back to school in June?! Why? Whats changed? Has the disease suddenly become non lethal, are the elderly going to be banned from picking up their little pocket germ spreaders at 3pm? 

The whole country needs to sit up and actually realise what we are in the middle of... people are getting bored/complacent after 6 or 7 weeks of staying in and watching TV with their new found jogging/cycling hobby that they never ever did before. 

Sod sport, let's get vocal for proper PPE - set up factories that produce N95 masks that "every single key worker uses, and every single person travelling on transport uses".... make shoppers use surgical masks.   Let's pray the vaccine works and that by September the country can get it .  Let's kick the government's arse and get them in a place where this catastrophe will be at play out like this again. 

 

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Voted for option 2 on the basis that the same happens in each of the lower leagues, nearly a 3rd of the season is outstanding, can’t even remember how many games played now.

Physically and mentally I’m OK, I’ve been able to keep busy at home, although my customers stopped calling and I’ve not earned a penny since the lockdown started, thankfully my work fixed overheads are low. Anyone who is struggling has my sympathy.

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44 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

Voted for option 2 on the basis that the same happens in each of the lower leagues, nearly a 3rd of the season is outstanding, can’t even remember how many games played now.

Physically and mentally I’m OK, I’ve been able to keep busy at home, although my customers stopped calling and I’ve not earned a penny since the lockdown started, thankfully my work fixed overheads are low. Anyone who is struggling has my sympathy.

What is it that you do Wiggytop, and I’m pleased to hear you are healthy mate. 

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10 hours ago, Palfy said:

What is it that you do Wiggytop, and I’m pleased to hear you are healthy mate. 

 Thanks Palfy, I’m self employed running a home maintenance/improvement business on the Wirral.

Hope your OK also, maybe we should run a poll to see if everyone else is OK to and do our bit for EITC, mods?

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43 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

 Thanks Palfy, I’m self employed running a home maintenance/improvement business on the Wirral.

Hope your OK also, maybe we should run a poll to see if everyone else is OK to and do our bit for EITC, mods?

Sounds good to me and I’m fine thanks mate been off work for week 7 now, bar the fact of no money coming in I’m making the most of the good weather in the South west, I’m even starting to understand why the long term unemployed don’t want to work, if someone is paying you to stay at home how sweet is that 😉

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15 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

You really think clubs that are getting relegated, like Hearts, aren’t going to fight this?

I’m sure they will, but they won’t have a chance. The finances to fight it at this time will add to that. 

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24 minutes ago, Matt said:

I’m sure they will, but they won’t have a chance. The finances to fight it at this time will add to that. 

Hearts have already said they're considering legal action, and have said that all through this if they were relegated without the games being played.

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