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Fuck me I must still be asleep, I didnt like the comment that he's a bit too good for Everton though. Cheeky bastards  <_<

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True but if we BATTERED them 3-0 and were not good what the fuck does that make them?? LOL!!!!

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I buy the sun.

 

it has everything anti liverpool on there which makes it a good read

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I buy the Sun to!! I got banned from that site befpre but now i'm back!! time to cause some trouble!

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I think you'll find the phrase "buttf*cked" is more apt Xav. :D

 

and I'm still banned

 

ATB

 

Mac

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3-0 is a hammering/buttfucking no matter how you played

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Disagree. A 1-0 can be a hammering if the team who won continuously bombarded the other but managed to score only one goal.

 

We had 21 shots in total, you had 5 (proved to be more useful). We controlled the game completely in the 2nd half and for 15 minutes in the first.

 

A hammering is said taking into account how the 'game' had gone on, not only the final score.

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I buy the sun.

 

it has everything anti liverpool on there which makes it a good read

49593[/snapback]

 

"The Sun" and "Good Read" cannot be joined together in the same breath. You get more intelligent debate in the Beano (and it's better written).

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Disagree. A 1-0 can be a hammering if the team who won continuously bombarded the other but managed to score only one goal.

 

We had 21 shots in total, you had 5 (proved to be more useful). We controlled the game completely in the 2nd half and for 15 minutes in the first.

 

A hammering is said taking into account how the 'game' had gone on, not only the final score.

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Tell me how many of your 21 shots were on target? Any player can shoot outside the box and miss by a mile mate, my nan could do that

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I think they cud have kept playin for another 90mins and still not scored, fact is we were better on the day and Liverpool got taught a footballing lesson, have as many shots as you want cos its only the ones that go in that count!

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Disagree. A 1-0 can be a hammering if the team who won continuously bombarded the other but managed to score only one goal.

 

We had 21 shots in total, you had 5 (proved to be more useful). We controlled the game completely in the 2nd half and for 15 minutes in the first.

 

A hammering is said taking into account how the 'game' had gone on, not only the final score.

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Heard a few comments like this and its definatly not the way i saw it from inside Goodison, infact my pissed up mumblings for the rest of the day generally included the line "not only 3-0 but off the fuckin park!"

 

You lot cant take defeat with your head held high can you.

 

I placed a bet with a Kopite mate of mine today. This is a fan of the mighty Liverpool who are deffo title contenders this year according to most of them!

 

The bet that we will be above them in the table come the Analfield derby in February.

 

Guess what the cheeky c*nt said and he ment it too,

"we will have games in hand because of europe so what if the points make a difference?"

My reply,

"you had games in hand when we finished 4th and didnt have the ollies to take it away from us, take the bet or stop calling yourself superiour"

 

Reluctantly the little red shit took the bet, not so confident of your superiority now are we RS???

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I think they cud have kept playin for another 90mins and still not scored, fact is we were better on the day and Liverpool got taught a footballing lesson, have as many shots as you want cos its only the ones that go in that count!

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:D yer to right ;) the blues give em a beating and thats a FACT :P and lovin it ;)

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I buy the sun.

 

it has everything anti liverpool on there which makes it a good read

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Its not just anti RS its anti Scouse and that includes us aswell .

 

Wouldnt touch that sh!thouse rag with a fookin large barge pole , a fookin large barge pole with a RS shirt on the end . :angry:

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Its not just anti RS its anti Scouse and that includes us aswell .

 

Wouldnt touch that sh!thouse rag with a fookin large barge pole , a fookin large barge pole with a RS shirt on the end .  :angry:

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oh ok, so i assume that the whole of merseyside dont buy or either read it.

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http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...rnational+break

 

well - mr master tactician...

 

we had

 

AJ

Phil Neville

Simon Davies

David Weir

James McFadden (who was injured whilst playing international football)

Gary Naysmith

Kevin Kilbane (sort of)

Lee Carsley

 

And it aint as though the RS internationals had hard games....andorra, Northern Ireland (For Reina and Alonso), macedonia...didn't even have to travel far...

 

You had:

Stevie Me

Crouch the slouch

Bellamy (who didn't play in the derby)

Alonso

Reina

garcia

 

I hate excuses - I really do. Just take it on the chin like everyone else has to.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot - we would be getting told how bitter we are towards their success....

 

But once again, as when we finished 4th (you remember, when the RS lost 4th - we didn't win it!), they are showing their true colours and bitterness towards other teams doing well...

 

They criticised Man Utd when they dominated. They criticised Arsenal when they dominated and they criticise Chelsea now...

THey say we dont matter to them - just a nother game, but there isn't a RS fan in sight that hasn't got a hat full of excuses as to why they got stuffed at the weekend and hopefully will get stuffed tonight...

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Disagree. A 1-0 can be a hammering if the team who won continuously bombarded the other but managed to score only one goal.

 

We had 21 shots in total, you had 5 (proved to be more useful). We controlled the game completely in the 2nd half and for 15 minutes in the first.

 

A hammering is said taking into account how the 'game' had gone on, not only the final score.

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21 shots - but how many on target.

 

ANyone can shoot from outside the box - anyone can shoot wide. ANyone can pass a ball to their own defence. Any one can pass through and around their defence. the stats mean nothing when you have been beaten...er...destroyed...

 

Jeez - go to any sunday league game -anywhere in the world (even India) and you will see 100 shots a game from as far out as the half way line - but they dont go in and therefore dont reflect ANYTHING from the game...

 

RS fans - time to take it on the chin...you got done by the better team on the day. its as simple ans easy to understand as that. - it really is!

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http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...rnational+break

 

well  - mr master tactician...

 

we had

 

AJ

Phil Neville

Simon Davies

David Weir

James McFadden (who was injured whilst playing international football)

Gary Naysmith

Kevin Kilbane (sort of)

Lee Carsley

 

And it aint as though the RS internationals had hard games....andorra, Northern Ireland (For Reina and Alonso), macedonia...didn't even have to travel far...

 

You had:

Stevie Me

Crouch the slouch

Bellamy (who didn't play in the derby)

Alonso

Reina

garcia

 

I hate excuses - I really do. Just take it on the chin like everyone else has to.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot - we would be getting told how bitter we are towards their success....

 

But once again, as when we finished 4th (you remember, when the RS lost 4th - we didn't win it!), they are showing their true colours and bitterness towards other teams doing well...

 

They criticised Man Utd when they dominated. They criticised Arsenal when they dominated and they criticise Chelsea now...

THey say we dont matter to them - just a nother game, but there isn't a RS fan in sight that hasn't got a hat full of excuses as to why they got stuffed at the weekend and hopefully will get stuffed tonight...

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:D good call ;)

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liverpoo were a shambles. but they havent looked good all season. sheffield were unlucky to drop a point to them and west ham were also unlucky to lose to them.

 

rafa has got problems even after spending a small fortune since his arrival.

 

in fact, apart from his one success in europe he hasnt really acheived anything that the last guy didnt.

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that paper should be banned on merseyside for some of the shit it has printed over the years

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ok i might as welll stop buying it than and just read either the daily mirror or the guardian.

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OK, here's an LFC fan, not wanting to defend the remarks. I hate excuses more than anything else. And if Rafa wants to figure out what went wrong, playing the "experienced derby players" wasn't a good call, IMO.

Daniel Agger has shown he's more than capable at the center back position, and frankly, Sami's lack of pace is going to become an increasing irritant against pacy teams like your own. And he should've had Pennant on (for Garcia) and Bellamy instead of Fowler. And Kuyt should have started, too.

You beat us, fair and square. Score one for the Blues this time. Whether you can keep it up remains to be seen (wasn't Charlton near the top of the table through September last season? Where'd they end up?), but so far, so good from your perspective.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Waits for the fireworks to begin!)

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OK, here's an LFC fan, not wanting to defend the remarks. I hate excuses more than anything else. And if Rafa wants to figure out what went wrong, playing the "experienced derby players" wasn't a good call, IMO.

Daniel Agger has shown he's more than capable at the center back position, and frankly, Sami's lack of pace is going to become an increasing irritant against pacy teams like your own. And he should've had Pennant on (for Garcia) and Bellamy instead of Fowler. And Kuyt should have started, too.

You beat us, fair and square. Score one for the Blues this time. Whether you can keep it up remains to be seen (wasn't Charlton near the top of the table through September last season? Where'd they end up?), but so far, so good from your perspective.(Waits for the fireworks to begin!)

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Werent we in the top 4 at the start of the season a coupler of seasons, and we finished 4th? <_<

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Werent we in the top 4 at the start of the season a coupler of seasons, and we finished 4th?  <_<

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Hmmm... this century you've finished 16th, 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th. I see a pattern, and the "fluke" finish seems to be the 4th. I stand by my original assessment.

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Hmmm... this century you've finished 16th, 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th. I see a pattern, and the "fluke" finish seems to be the 4th. I stand by my original assessment.

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Gobshites arent half boring to talk to *yawns*

 

The whole point of my post was to point out that not all teams fall away after a good start, not to start a debate on how we have faired in the league this century. BTW have you not missed out a season?

 

 

You're a typical gobshite, you live on the other side of the world and think you it all.

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I have to agree with Red here, he/she made a couple of valid points which are inescapable.

 

However, our 4th place finish can never be described as a fluke, out of character possibly, but not a fluke.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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I have to agree with Red here, he/she made a couple of valid points which are inescapable.

 

However, our 4th place finish can never be described as a fluke, out of character possibly, but not a fluke.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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OK, out of character sounds more like it. I'll accept that assessment.

MY point wasn't to suggest that you WILL falter, only that 4 games in is WAY too soon to be boasting about your performance overall. So I brought up the Charlton comparison. Could have brought up LFC's (late September, we were 11th, and finished 3rd, one point out of 2nd).

As for flukes: in that one game, OK, can't take that away. No "fluke" there, either (though some, not me, might see it that way. Same as our FIFTH European championship was no fluke, referenced here earlier). You deserved the win. But will you keep it up? Only time will tell.

Actually, kind of hoping you do. What makes a rivalry meaningful is when both teams are playing well (in this context, contending for European spots). Makes it that much more satisfying when we do win. This one will always be special, but meaningful as well? Not in recent years. But your side may be onto something good. Andy Johnson, Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta, Leon Osman, David Weir, Phil Neville? Top shelf talent, all. And if Lescott continues to develop, Yobo ever finds some consistency and Tim Howard ever regains his lost form, you will be trouble for sure. FWIW: young Mr. Anichebe, the little I've seen of him, is going to be quite a talent, too, as he matures and gets consistent first-team minutes.

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wow a red who is fair towards the blues.

 

you better keep it up

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Yeah, but not a "lifelong" Red, and since the only two Everton fans I know here in the States (and one overseas, in Scotland) are all actually quite decent, likeable folks, I haven't "lived" the animosity of a lifetime in Liverpool to actually have that same ferocity of hatred that doesn't allow for any objective assessment of Everton.

 

I DO possess that level of animosity towards a few American sports teams, but not to the level that I can't be objective about their talents. And your team has talent. Anyone who would suggest otherwise is only kidding themselves (or assesses all talented teams through a Chelsea/Barcelona mindset, which is largely unrealistic, given the talent and resources they have in their respective leagues that no one else does).

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Gobshites arent half boring to talk to *yawns*

 

The whole point of my post was to point out that not all teams fall away after a good start, not to start a debate on how we have faired in the league this century. BTW have you not missed out a season?

You're a typical gobshite, you live on the other side of the world and think you it all.

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Oh and FWIW: you may think I'm a gobshite (opinion), but let's clear up one thing: I sure as hell don't know it all. I'm the first one to admit that, especially when it comes to English football.

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Oh and FWIW: you may think I'm a gobshite (opinion), but let's clear up one thing: I sure as hell don't know it all. I'm the first one to admit that, especially when it comes to English football.

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:blink: calm down der lad :lol::lol:;)

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:blink: calm down der lad :lol:   :lol:   ;)

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Don't worry. My reply was meant to be humorous: an American born-and-bred and raised on American sports shouldn't ever be mistaken for an English football fan, no matter how much I may know about "the beautiful game". And having played/coached the game, I do know some.

 

If I come across as a "smart aleck" (or gobshite, take your pick) sometimes, it's just that I can't help it! :D

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You should be Redington Steele, tis a bit more daper

( Brosnan) than steelered.

 

( Prob go over the youngun's heads that).

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Don't worry. My reply was meant to be humorous: an American born-and-bred and raised on American sports shouldn't ever be mistaken for an English football fan, no matter how much I may know about "the beautiful game". And having played/coached the game, I do know some.

 

If I come across as a "smart aleck" (or gobshite, take your pick) sometimes, it's just that I can't help it!  :D

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:D say what you feel mate theirs no shame in that ;)

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"MY point wasn't to suggest that you WILL falter, only that 4 games in is WAY too soon to be boasting about your performance overall."

 

not so sure about that. things are so tight in the premiership these days that you can't afford to drop too many points. you certainly can't afford to fall too far behind the leaders.

 

they say the league can't be won in september, but it can be lost!

 

for example arsenal are already ten points behind manu!

 

even for a team with all their talent, thats a serious deficit. manu arent n the habit of throwing away ten point leads to anyone, anytime.

 

this season could be a turning point. it seems to me that clubs are no longer intimidated by chelsea or manu or any of the usual suspects.

 

we could be witnessing the start of a changing of the guard.

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"MY point wasn't to suggest that you WILL falter, only that 4 games in is WAY too soon to be boasting about your performance overall."

 

not so sure about that. things are so tight in the premiership these days that you can't afford to drop too many points. you certainly can't afford to fall too far behind the leaders.

 

they say the league can't be won in september, but it can be lost!

 

for example arsenal are already ten points behind manu!

 

even for a team with all their talent, thats a serious deficit. manu arent n the habit of throwing away ten point leads to anyone, anytime.

 

this season could be a turning point. it seems to me that clubs are no longer intimidated by chelsea or manu or any of the usual suspects.

 

we could be witnessing the start of a changing of the guard.

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:D think thats a good thing need more teams to be challanging, makes for a better season for supporters look at us :D;)

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I think it is a bit too early to be getting carried away with our selves, the wheels can fall off at any time, especially with our small squad, but confidence breads confidence. If we continue in this vain then teams will be looking at Everton before they play them and thinking "OH SHIT THESE ARE GOOD", where if we were on a loosing run teams would be thinking they could tuen us over, as they did at the begining of last season.

 

So, there is a lot of hard work to be done in keeping us where we are, and as I've already said,

 

"I WONT BE GETTING CARRIED AWAY UNTIL WE TEST OURSELVES AGAINST THE BETTER TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE, LIKE CHELSEA OR MANURE"

 

For the moment im happy to be undefeated in the league glancing over our shoulders at all the teams below us. Wondering what will happen if we beat wigan and Chelsea win this weekend

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I think it is a bit too early to be getting carried away with our selves, the wheels can fall off at any time, especially with our small squad, but confidence breads confidence. If we continue in this vain then teams will be looking at Everton before they play them and thinking "OH SHIT THESE ARE GOOD", where if we were on a loosing run teams would be thinking they could tuen us over, as they did at the begining of last season.

 

So, there is a lot of hard work to be done in keeping us where we are, and as I've already said,

 

"I WONT BE GETTING CARRIED AWAY UNTIL WE TEST OURSELVES AGAINST THE BETTER TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE, LIKE CHELSEA OR MANURE"

 

For the moment im happy to be undefeated in the league glancing over our shoulders at all the teams below us. Wondering what will happen if we beat wigan and Chelsea win this weekend

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:D sweet dreams them zed ;) lets hope they come true ;)

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not so sure about that. things are so tight in the premiership these days that you can't afford to drop too many points. you certainly can't afford to fall too far behind the leaders.

 

they say the league can't be won in september, but it can be lost!

 

for example arsenal are already ten points behind manu!

 

even for a team with all their talent, thats a serious deficit. manu arent n the habit of throwing away ten point leads to anyone, anytime.

 

this season could be a turning point. it seems to me that clubs are no longer intimidated by chelsea or manu or any of the usual suspects.

 

we could be witnessing the start of a changing of the guard.[/b][/color]

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The first point you raised relates directly to the 2nd. The reason, I think, that teams seemed "inevitble" champions in September is that clubs were intimidated by the usual suspects. But if that air of invincibility truly no longer exists, then the "usual suspects" are going to find away fixtures more and more difficult to come away from having secured 3 points. Thus, deficits in the standings like the one Arsenal (or for that matter Blackburn) currently face should no longer be as difficult to make up as in the past.

 

That said, I think it's too early to tell if that "changing of the guard" has taken place. I hope you're right: it's makes for more entertaining football overall, and that's always a good thing. But the surprise early season starts of Pompey, Villa and yourselves are reason to hope.

 

Of course, as a Reds fan, I would hope that the "changing of the guard" would by-pass our team! :D

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