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Man of the match.

 

I knew he had it in him to play like that, just thought we would have seen it earlier!

 

Lets hope that isnt his last game for a month!!

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Hope VDM plays more too his crossing was great and he can take on a man but would like to see his fitness improve. Hopefully he can put past problems behind him.

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I'm sorry folks, but one swallow does not a summer make, he needs to convince me with more than overdue half-decent performance.

 

Sorry to piss on your chips peeps but he still owes us big time.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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Mac, beat me to the pun...I was going to go with Indian Summer though.

 

Sentiments echoed.

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he did play really well for an hour, but lets hope he can build on this, coz he fuckin needs to start giving us something back!!!

 

but ill give him his due today, nice to see vaughan score, could see what it meant to him when he ran to hughes. well done kid

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Nowhere near man of the match, that honour lies between Howard and Lescott.

 

VDM still not completed 90 mins we will be lucky to see him again before he goes in January.

 

PS......are we the only prem team to field FIVE centre halfs. Yobo Lescott, Stubbs, Hughes and Weir.

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he played well

 

some good crosses and running past people hopefully he can reproduce this form next week

 

after that performance i believe he should be given a starting role as he is a confidence player and think he could give us a kick start after a few dodgy results

 

hopefully giving us another outlet rather than just having cahill and Johnson

 

plus hopefully providing beattie with some ammo

 

did i just say ammo

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I'm sorry folks, but one swallow does not a summer make, he needs to convince me with more than overdue half-decent performance.

 

Sorry to piss on your chips peeps but he still owes us big time.

 

ATB

 

Mac

Agreed..for the love of god one match where he actually earns his wages and everybody nears hieghtened states of sexual arrousal.

 

He's a waster and should be gotten rid of,hopefully this was his swansong with clubs in holland watching him,maybe just maybe he's done us a favour played a decent game to get his move.

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everybody nears hieghtened states of sexual arrousal.

 

Xcept the over 35's.

 

Might be more in that, than meets the eye.

 

I did chuckle a whloe thread of optimism, then 5 old prix shoot it 2 the shitter @ very the end.

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Xcept the over 35's.

 

Might be more in that, than meets the eye.

 

I did chuckle a whloe thread of optimism, then 5 old prix shoot it 2 the shitter @ very the end.

LMFAO

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PS......are we the only prem team to field FIVE centre halfs. Yobo Lescott, Stubbs, Hughes and Weir.

 

Im glad i wasnt the only who noticed that...i was howling all during the match...

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Ended up with 5 centre halfs and 4 forwards at the end.

 

Thought that VDM played well and would like to see more of it but agree with the likes of Licker and Mac that 1 doesn't put everything right.

 

Hope he gets to play a part of the next game though

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He played well and im chuffed for him

 

But like the other old prichs, this one wants to see another 15-20 games on the bounce, before I start pulling me self off

 

Lets hope his troubles are behind him

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I must admit watching the game - I did think to my self how useful a player he would be, if his first half performance yesterday was the norm in an Everton shirt.

 

He has been a poor return for what we hoped - I would say mainly down to injury, and then apparently going on the bottle afterwards, rather than his lack of talent.

 

We saw a first half performance - that in my opinion has been to long coming, and would at this point still say if a half decent offer comes in for him in January - he must go.

 

However, there are another 5 games before the transfer window opens. If (and I mean a big if) he stays fit and gets a run of game that shows the same level of performance throughout, he will indeed be like a new signing.

 

Yesterday, again showed that he is a talented footballer, good crosses, taking players on and beating them, so the lad can play in the Prem, and all that not being match fit or on the same wave length as his team mates yet.

 

Like many I would love to see a fully fit, confident VDM having a prolonged run in the Everton first team, but like most you just get the feeling that in one or two games time, just as he gets match fit - he will be back on the treatment table.

 

As a few people have said, its going to take more than a single performance to turn any career at Goodison around. Although yesterdays performance is a start - so at least he now has something to build on.

 

So a case of watch this space at the moment.

 

Lesscott was my man of the match - I have been sooo impressed by this lad - taken to Prem like a duck to water.

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well with the numbers in the squad as they are can we let a player go who can play in a few positions

 

again i will say (touch wood) hopefully he has his injuries behind us and show he can do it to prem standards

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I knew he had it in him to play really well, if he carrys on playin like that i think only good things can happen, if he keeps beatin defenders and putin balls in the box like e was then Beats will prospur as well. c'mon Van the man!

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watching him skin konchesky timeless times then putting in a perfect cross made me smile.

 

if he does that all the time our attacking options will be better. cahill and BT will prosper and with arteta in the middle he can skin players in midfield and put through the killer ball through to AJ.

 

please VDM for the love of the the club. stay uninjured and carry on with what your doing.

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I agree with most of you not MOTM but hes played good give him some cred! best part of the game was when he sent etherington for an echo then skinned baldy and got cropped! class tht! Great perfromance from Everton reserves ey!

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watching him skin konchesky timeless times then putting in a perfect cross made me smile.

 

if he does that all the time our attacking options will be better. cahill and BT will prosper and with arteta in the middle he can skin players in midfield and put through the killer ball through to AJ.

 

please VDM for the love of the the club. stay uninjured and carry on with what your doing.

For the love of the club please leave and free up some cash for players who want to play and earn thier mega bucks each week..and take the twat Beattie with you too

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One half decent game in 18 months and everyones praising him..the mind boggles.

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One half decent game in 18 months and everyones praising him..the mind boggles.

At least give him some cred, yea hes been a bag of shite but you must admit he looked exciting yesterday! and would u rather simon davies the worst player at the club playing in his position instead would u? i dont think so somehow

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foz no one is going ott just giving praise where its due if claus thompson would hav played like that i would have said he played well

 

with the squad the way it is i'm willing to give anyone a second chance to prove themselves

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One half decent game in 18 months and everyones praising him..the mind boggles.

 

So we should get on his back even when he plays well then foz?

 

Yeh it was his first game where he actually done anything and the rest...but credit where credits due, he had a great game and I hope it will continue, being positive doesnt hurt sometimes you know :)

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After wathcing match replay.

 

Cahill would have love being on the end of a few of them crosses.

 

What chance VDM being fit or here in Jan on Cahills return?

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See what your saying Pat, would like to see him get a run of matches, i do admire him as a player, its a shame hes so unreliable.

 

We have missed Cahill ALOT. There where times yesterday when you knew that Cahill would have been in that gap attacking the ball, its a shame we havnt got more players like that :(

 

I think if we can then a CM should be looked at, Ossie just hasnt done it for me this season, good goal yesterday, worked hard, but still not really good enough.

 

Ive always been a big fan of Leon but his performances have been poor this season.

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So we should get on his back even when he plays well then foz?

 

Yeh it was his first game where he actually done anything and the rest...but credit where credits due, he had a great game and I hope it will continue, being positive doesnt hurt sometimes you know :)

Read 3 different newspaper reports of the game and while i dont take the "match" score all too seriously the most he got was a 6...i didnt see the game but i'm sorry he's a pisshead who's done nothing at all since he joined the club,he earns big money for doing fuck all in the time he's been here,it'll take a hell of a lot more than one game to give anything like scant praise from me.

 

There are so many chances i'm willing to give most players and he ran out of them last season,he's a waster who i'm sure will be gone come january.

 

So one game does bugger all for me,i may well be a hard task master but he and other players of his ilk do a job i and most us would give thier right bollock for and to see them waste theier talent (and he's talented alright) makes my blood boil.

 

An internet pen mate from holland warned me about this lad when he came and frankly his words have been born out to be true.

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Both, Johan Cruyff and Marco Van Baston had publicly stated they would never again pick him for the Dutch Squad. That should have set the alarm bells ringing before we even signed him, all that was needed was a phone call.

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Read 3 different newspaper reports of the game and while i dont take the "match" score all too seriously the most he got was a 6...i didnt see the game but i'm sorry he's a pisshead who's done nothing at all since he joined the club,he earns big money for doing fuck all in the time he's been here,it'll take a hell of a lot more than one game to give anything like scant praise from me.

 

There are so many chances i'm willing to give most players and he ran out of them last season,he's a waster who i'm sure will be gone come january.

 

So one game does bugger all for me,i may well be a hard task master but he and other players of his ilk do a job i and most us would give thier right bollock for and to see them waste theier talent (and he's talented alright) makes my blood boil.

 

An internet pen mate from holland warned me about this lad when he came and frankly his words have been born out to be true.

 

I understand exactly what your saying foz but be realistic every time he's played I'v done a sex wee in my pants watching him.

 

Dont go for the obvious reply we all know he hasnt played.

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Both, Johan Cruyff and Marco Van Baston had publicly stated they would never again pick him for the Dutch Squad.

 

Stupid to write someone off in their mid-twenties whatever their problem. Like saying you'd never pick Eric Clapton to play guitar again, or Anthony Hopkins to act. If he's ill and he gets better fucking good for him. Don't know if it's in him at the moment but I'd me made up big time if he carries on playing like he did Sunday.

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The words "CLUTCHING" and "STRAWS" spring to mind. :D . Each to his own i suppose.

Give me a run of ten games without him going missing for 3months at a time, and i might review my feelings about him, But i wont hold my Breadth.

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The words "CLUTCHING" and "STRAWS" spring to mind. :D . Each to his own i suppose.

Give me a run of ten games without him going missing for 3months at a time, and i might review my feelings about him, But i wont hold my Breadth.

Same here Licker..us oldies must have higher standards than these young pups i suppose

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The words "CLUTCHING" and "STRAWS" spring to mind. :D . Each to his own i suppose.

Give me a run of ten games without him going missing for 3months at a time, and i might review my feelings about him, But i wont hold my Breadth.

 

 

Same here Licker..us oldies must have higher standards than these young pups i suppose

 

You 2 are definatly missing the point!

 

He's a fuckin lazy waster who never plays and is best off out of our club, my point is when he plays like he did on Saturday (which he has every time he's pulled his boots on) he is better than any wide player bar Kanchelskis I have ever watched in person for Everton!

 

We could do with a player like that and I wish he wasnt a joke because we could realy realy do with that talent every week.

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All you can do is take it game by game now.

 

There are five games before the transfer window opens - and say 8-9 games before middle of the window.

 

He did more than enough on Sunday to be picked in the starting line up against Portsmouth, Everton and VDM have just got to take it from there.

 

If he plays like he did against West Ham on Saturday then he's in the team for Chelsea.

 

Fozzie and plenty others have wrote VDM off already - and I have to say very difficult to argue against him. One good performance is not enough (although if you had seen his performance Fozzie, you would get an idea of why a lot of people are getting a little excited). The highest news paper rating of 6 is well off the mark for his performance on Sunday, it was a display on the wing that the Goodison faithful haven't seen in a while. His first half showing was basically what we hoped we had bought him for.

 

I don't like abuse against players - especially ones were the main gripe is that they have had a lot of injury problems. Also, if the fella has developed a alcohol problem because of furstration and the ensuing depression.

 

I don't beleive for one second that VDM moved from Milan to Liverpool to purposely waste his life and talent away - I firmly think his goal was and is to get playing football. How much would if f*ck you off if you spend months getting yourself match fit - only play a couple of half games and go back to square one. Major pi55ed off. Watching your short footballing career disapear year by year, injury by injury.

 

I would love to see the fella get his life and football back on track. So if a little credit and encouragement for the way he played on Sunday helps - rather than continualed slagging off and abuse then I am all for this positive post. A so much negativity helps fu*king knowbody.

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Called a forum Rob..its here for a discusion the whole point of it really.

 

The simple truth is this in the last 4 years or so he's played less than 70 games,clearly not good enough he's trouble and the sooner we get rid the better.

 

Milan must sill laugh at us for paying good money for him.

 

And as for the paper reports i cant recall his name anywhere,they praised BT more tbh.but as i say i do take those with a large dash of salt.

 

I'm amazed that normally sensible people can defend this type of player,he earns good money for doing nothing,are we that desperate for a hero??

 

I know i'm not and frankly wasting time praising up this wastrel is missing the plus points of the season,lescott,howard,AJ,cahill.

 

You 2 are definatly missing the point!

 

He's a fuckin lazy waster who never plays and is best off out of our club, my point is when he plays like he did on Saturday (which he has every time he's pulled his boots on) he is better than any wide player bar Kanchelskis I have ever watched in person for Everton!

 

We could do with a player like that and I wish he wasnt a joke because we could realy realy do with that talent every week.

But your missing the point Fishman he wont do it every week,thats the whole point,he'll be injured again before we know (hopefully come feburay) when he's gone

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Rob if its negative, its because its the truth, he pleaded in the summer to stay here, said he was determined to repay the faith that moysey had in him, since then he's played a shit 45 mins at Peterborough, two minutes of extra time against Boro, and a much improved 60 mins the other night.

Hopefully he didnt go out and celebrate too much, after feeling so excited about actually playing reasonably well.

 

For me its not about being negative, its about looking at facts, and facts still point to a once decent footballer who has abused his body and health, in such a way that he can no longer perform his occupation to an acceptable standard. If you or i had given so little to our occupations, we would have been sacked long ago.

 

In todays high profile game with massive sums of money involved, there is no room for sentiment. Dont forget this Club still has a huge Debt and we cannot continue to carry passengers, thats how companies go into liquidation. Time for the wasters and hangers-on to be shipped out, lets prune the Crew and run a tight ship..............

 

V D Meyde, Naysmith, Teflon, Pistone, players who have cost us MILLIONS and given very little in return.

I will hold off on Beattie and Davies until the seasons end But the rest can go at Christmas as far as i'm concerned.

 

Just one more thing for Goldy.......Liam if you wet your pants every time you see vdm play, you must be very easily pleased. ;)

 

Licker.....(Old but Wise)

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Just one more thing for Goldy.......Liam if you wet your pants every time you see vdm play, you must be very easily pleased. ;)

 

Licker.....(Old but Wise)

 

Licker I have never seen anyone at Goodison cross a ball so well and so consistantly plus rip the arse out of one of the better left backs in the league over & over!!

 

Foz I get your point and even stated he needs to go the only point I make is its a shame because a week in week out VDM would be one of the best players we have had since the 80's :(

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I must admit Fish getting wet has disturbed me...

 

Just trying to describe form someone who was in the ground how consistantly good his crosses were.

 

If Cahill & Duncan Ferguson were in that penalty area we would have won about 8-0!

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Milan must sill laugh at us for paying good money for him.

 

They paid £5m for him so they're hardly in a position to laugh. In the previous three seasons at Ajax he played 86 games and scored 20 goals...isn't there just a little part of you (and Licker and anyone else of the same opinion) that desperately hopes that you're wrong?

 

But hey, thanks for bracketing me with the young pups....made my day :D !

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we didnt pay that much for him. people make out like we spent 12 million on him when in fact it was 1.5 million. he has frustrated me at times being injured all the fukin time. but hopefully if he can stay fit and play like he did against west ham. we got a good winger on our hands

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Its not just the 1.5m you pay for him, its the wages we've paid him since he came, thats another 1.5 million gone on him, and we've had fook all off him in return.

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I don't think we will ever come to a conclusion on this because of age and experience of previous Everton teams.

 

"The pups" have every right to get excited, because Everton are not known for fielding flair players and when they have someone to shout about, let them.

 

It has never happened to them in the way we have witnessed real success for us "owl arses".

 

I do love the passion involved and the younger members of the forum must realise we oldies are used to better.

 

Personally, I think he is a liability and a c*nt, a drain on overstretched resources. That is a personal view and in no way is a slur on any personal problems he may have.

 

Diplomatically

 

Mac

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Personally, I think he is a liability and a c*nt, a drain on overstretched resources. That is a personal view and in no way is a slur on any personal problems he may have.

 

Sitting on the bloody fence again eh Mac :lol: ?

 

Well me and the other young pups :D will be proved right (I'm enjoying this)!

 

I've put together a small video to demonstrate my esteem...

 

(have to work out a plan B for that :( )

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