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If it means we can get a Fee for Billy in Jan then i'm all for it. I think this is similar to the Hahnemann deal, as in we get a decent player in on a free, okay wont make the first eleven unless we get a few injuries, but it means we can afford to sacrifice a few bit-part players and get a fee for them, either to fend off the bankers or to re-invest in Jan at the end of the season.

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That being said, he was a Moyes favourite here before, so whats the likelyhood of him starting against FUlham ....

If he does this again (3.10 in) I'll cope with ittongue.png .

 

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I hope he does well for us but this can't be seen as anything but a step in the wrong direction. We sold players like McFadden (Beattie, Johnson etc) because we were steadily bringing in better players to replace them and move the squad forward.

Sums up our current predicament really and doesn't give much hope for Bily and Gueye?

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Well it could possibly be the equivalent of having your mates megadrive off him for free, but when did we sell the PS3?

 

Sold arteta.

 

Whether he was a ps3 is down to opinion but I'm sorry McFadden as a signing just seriously highlights the problems ahem have. It smacks of desperation.

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It's a shame I'd love to see gueye get a few starts, fresh legs and ideas.

 

My thoughts exactly. From the glimpses I have seen from the likes of Gueye, Drenthe & Barkley, they are already better players than McFadden and they will all bring something fresh and new that we havent seen before (or for a long time). McFadden is inconsistent and ineffectual 99% of the time, he might score a good goal here and there but he will give the ball away countless times, miss sitters and generally contribute nothing to the teams performance. A waste of wages as far as I am concerned, however I would loved to be proved wrong.

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I really am gobsmaked regarding this one. Got Larsonn having blinders for sunderland - yes he may be on decent wages but sorry, McFadden I just don't get it, I wouldn't have him ahead of barkley, drenthe, Gueye, I hazard a guss thast soon enough we may have other youth option that would be better placed. The glass ceiling above gueyes head must be a concern.

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Why all the doom n gloom? Additional depth to the squad plus hes a seasoned EPL pro capable of moments of genius - free! No brainer for me....

 

He may well be an addition to the squad but so would any player without a club be. I totally agree with Hafnia and Bailey regarding this smacking of deperation and MacFaddens' all round contribution of practically zilch. I don't see the queues of clubs looking to sign him. Hoping I am wrong but it will take something special to lift the doom and gloom from measures taken like this.

 

 

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He may well be an addition to the squad but so would any player without a club be. I totally agree with Hafnia and Bailey regarding this smacking of deperation and MacFaddens' all round contribution of practically zilch. I don't see the queues of clubs looking to sign him. Hoping I am wrong but it will take something special to lift the doom and gloom from measures taken like this.

Just trying to find the positives in the situation mate. Think i found all of them though :(

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This is a giant step backwards, Fulham say AJ can go for 2 million, and Beattie is on a free this season, i cant wait for the transfer window to come around.

At this rate they will be our "best buys" from the pound shop.

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the good thing is its only a short term contract.....if he is fit he will probably play up front simply because no one is doing the buisness i know vellios has scored 2 and should be given a chance.

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My thoughts exactly. From the glimpses I have seen from the likes of Gueye, Drenthe & Barkley, they are already better players than McFadden and they will all bring something fresh and new that we havent seen before (or for a long time). McFadden is inconsistent and ineffectual 99% of the time, he might score a good goal here and there but he will give the ball away countless times, miss sitters and generally contribute nothing to the teams performance. A waste of wages as far as I am concerned, however I would loved to be proved wrong.

 

Thought you might have been talking about Bily there! dry.png

 

 

Im not really that fussed myself

 

He could provide another option to Seamus on the right and he has only got a contract until the end of the season so I dont have a problem with it

 

(more or less) This!

As far as I'm concerned, we haven't got a pot to piss in, we're low on numbers, and to be frank, beggars can't be choosers. I wish him well and keep my fingers crossed he'll have a positive influence on the team and it's the results.

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I just don't see the point.

 

Is he any better than what we have already got? No

 

Will he cost us anything? Yes, even if he is on relatively low wages of 10k per week thats still 500k in a year for nothing, or in other words Vellios + Coleman + 100k.

 

Do we have any good young players in his position? Yes, Baxter, Gueye, Barkley and Vellios spring to mind, these guys could find there appearences even more limited by the arrival of McFadden hampering there development.

 

The one thing we have going for us at the moment is the quality of youth development here and the reputation for giving youngsters a go, but this will only disgruntle the talented youngsters at the club and put off any thinking of joining, if we would rather take a risk on a 28 year old who has never quite cut it at this level than take a risk on a young play.

 

McFadden will never move this club forward, the likes of Vellios, Gueye, Barkley an Baxter will if they are developed properly.

 

Rant over, frustrations vented, good luck to you James, I hope you prove me wrong, COYB!

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Ask yourself this -

 

He was going free - and there's a lot of other clubs about.

 

There appeared to be no queue for his services

 

Is that indicative of something?

 

 

ALL of that said - We did the same with Hargreaves, although you could say the gamble is different - it's more a gamble on fitness than on ability. But possibly similar.

 

Maybe he's worth a punt? It's a long season, injuries happen etc...

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Not sure what his deal actually is - a pay per game would be ok. If he's on a proper paid contract then yes, I can see the concern.

 

Only time will tell if he's proves to be an invaluable asset, or a another example of wasted money.

 

Not sure what Moyes can do though? if he brings in a rookie - there's room for criticism there too. If he doesn't bring anybody in - he'll get criticised for that. Bringing in a relatively seasoned player has 'some' logic to it - doesn't it?

 

Accepting the whole 'crapiness' of the situation in general - is it not a case of making the best of whatever limited funds you do have?

 

Isn't any player you bring in likely to be a bit depressing - since they're not going to be of the quality you'd normally expect at Everton?

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I wasn't going to bother posting for a while, as I've not felt enthusiastic about anything football related for weeks, but this is an interesting one.

 

It's important to look on the bright side here, rather than look for negatives.

 

Mcfadden is a hard worker, and knows the Everton set up. We haven't sold a player in order to bring him in. He is here totally as a bonus, and for a club that has zero money to spend, it's great business.

 

Vellios will still get his chances, like every other player, but you have to look at the size of our squad. If we get injuries we've had it. The fact Vellios and Barkley etc are getting a game is because we are so thin on the ground. Football is about a squad.

 

Faddy is another of those players that has been unlucky with injuries. When we sold him, we were all shocked if we're honest, as he was well liked at Everton, but we made £4m profit on that deal, and 3 years later, the guy is still only 28 years old, and scored what I think was one of the best goals I've seen while he was with us.

 

He's no waste of space. He is a blood and guts player, and won't cost us much. It's a win win situation for both parties, and wish him all the best. Come January, Moyes can look at the situation, but we aren't exactly in a position to be fussy at the moment, and there are many decent sides that would welcome him, and for us to get him is quite lucky if we're honest.

 

Anyone who says he is shite is talking through their arse. He's a great squad player to have, and could be just the kick up the ass the team needs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V-0tEM-SR0

 

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I have not watched him enough to say how he plays but I am sure he is not on a big paycheck and he can surve as an impact sub or backup when there are too many injuries.

Would u prefer Rodwell at right mid or Mcfadden?

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I wasn't going to bother posting for a while, as I've not felt enthusiastic about anything football related for weeks, but this is an interesting one.

 

It's important to look on the bright side here, rather than look for negatives.

 

Mcfadden is a hard worker, and knows the Everton set up. We haven't sold a player in order to bring him in. He is here totally as a bonus, and for a club that has zero money to spend, it's great business.

 

Vellios will still get his chances, like every other player, but you have to look at the size of our squad. If we get injuries we've had it. The fact Vellios and Barkley etc are getting a game is because we are so thin on the ground. Football is about a squad.

 

Faddy is another of those players that has been unlucky with injuries. When we sold him, we were all shocked if we're honest, as he was well liked at Everton, but we made £4m profit on that deal, and 3 years later, the guy is still only 28 years old, and scored what I think was one of the best goals I've seen while he was with us.

 

He's no waste of space. He is a blood and guts player, and won't cost us much. It's a win win situation for both parties, and wish him all the best. Come January, Moyes can look at the situation, but we aren't exactly in a position to be fussy at the moment, and there are many decent sides that would welcome him, and for us to get him is quite lucky if we're honest.

 

Anyone who says he is shite is talking through their arse. He's a great squad player to have, and could be just the kick up the ass the team needs.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V-0tEM-SR0

 

 

Hard working, blood and guts? More like lazy and frustrating throw in inconsistent too.

 

Poor signing, seriously.

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I have not watched him enough to say how he plays but I am sure he is not on a big paycheck and he can surve as an impact sub or backup when there are too many injuries.

Would u prefer Rodwell at right mid or Mcfadden?

 

i'd prefer gueye or bily

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Avinalaff, I could not disagree more (apart from the goal v. Charlton) with your description of MacFadden. One of the most frustrating players I have seen in my forty odd years watching Everton. Hard working, honestly I have seen habitual doleites work harder. I wasn't shocked to see him leave three years ago, in fact most Blues I know where quite happy with that decision because he offered nothing to the team, more shocked at his return. A championship side don't want him, a constant premiership relegation side don't want him and a struggling team in a two horse race don't want him, if they did they would have pulled out the stops to et him. Your quote of "I wasn't going to bother posting for a while, as I've not felt enthusiastic about anything football related for weeks....." really sums this episode up for me. Like most who have voiced their disagreement let us hope how wrong we are.

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Why did we sign this useless piece of shit. Moyes has lost the plot look at vellios scores a 1000 goals and still can't get a start ahead of that 40 year old french bastard who couldn't run out of sight in a dark night.

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Avinalaff, I could not disagree more (apart from the goal v. Charlton) with your description of MacFadden. One of the most frustrating players I have seen in my forty odd years watching Everton. Hard working, honestly I have seen habitual doleites work harder. I wasn't shocked to see him leave three years ago, in fact most Blues I know where quite happy with that decision because he offered nothing to the team, more shocked at his return. A championship side don't want him, a constant premiership relegation side don't want him and a struggling team in a two horse race don't want him, if they did they would have pulled out the stops to et him. Your quote of "I wasn't going to bother posting for a while, as I've not felt enthusiastic about anything football related for weeks....." really sums this episode up for me. Like most who have voiced their disagreement let us hope how wrong we are.

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Why did we sign this useless piece of shit. Moyes has lost the plot look at vellios scores a 1000 goals and still can't get a start ahead of that 40 year old french bastard who couldn't run out of sight in a dark night.

Interesting post from someone who says Suarez is a racist rat.

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What's irritated me more than anything about this is that the club must surely know how the fans would receive this!

 

I would rather have nothing than have McFadden - I went to 7 a side last night and the red noses were having a field day. Blimey the club feel aggrieved at the Blue Union for exposing the financial plight? Signing McFadden is like sticking an "everything must go" sign in the front of the shop. To top it off Moyes has mentioned the chances that Barkley will be sold in the future.

 

We have gone back to the days of signing the John Spencers of this world.

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Are you saying he isn't

I'm saying your post could be percieved as a racist comment by someone with less faith in a fellow blue than myself, you know like pot calling kettle black (no pun intended).

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I'm saying your post could be percieved as a racist comment by someone with less faith in a fellow blue than myself, you know like pot calling kettle black (no pun intended).

Sorry when i said he couldn't run out of sight in a dark night it wasn't a dig at him for being black.

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as i said i always liked him but he had his time here...he had a decent run in the team at one stage and got a few important and beautiful goals..but that time has gone for me..the guy has never been the player he should have been and i think that is proof he doesn't work hard enough..he has an attitude about him yeah but blood and guts grafter? last thing i'd ever describe him as

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I thought he had something to offer when he left. He has the talent but consistency is his problem. A 30 yard screamer followed by squandering absolute sitters.

 

In his time away from Goodison he has maintained an ability to do wonderful things and score great goals but still remains inconsistent, this is why nobody else but Celtic wanted him.

 

A backward step for us and to echo most thoughts on here I will be disappointed if his arrival limits the chances of our younger lads. He had a chance here before and didnt take it

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Why did we sign this useless piece of shit. Moyes has lost the plot look at vellios scores a 1000 goals and still can't get a start ahead of that 40 year old french bastard who couldn't run out of sight in a dark night.

Hes scored 2 goals you idiot and Saha is 33 as well as a proven premiership striker, albeit in a slump. Now how about you sod off?

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I wasn't going to bother posting for a while, as I've not felt enthusiastic about anything football related for weeks, but this is an interesting one.

 

It's important to look on the bright side here, rather than look for negatives.

 

Mcfadden is a hard worker, and knows the Everton set up. We haven't sold a player in order to bring him in. He is here totally as a bonus, and for a club that has zero money to spend, it's great business.

 

Vellios will still get his chances, like every other player, but you have to look at the size of our squad. If we get injuries we've had it. The fact Vellios and Barkley etc are getting a game is because we are so thin on the ground. Football is about a squad.

 

Faddy is another of those players that has been unlucky with injuries. When we sold him, we were all shocked if we're honest, as he was well liked at Everton, but we made £4m profit on that deal, and 3 years later, the guy is still only 28 years old, and scored what I think was one of the best goals I've seen while he was with us.

 

He's no waste of space. He is a blood and guts player, and won't cost us much. It's a win win situation for both parties, and wish him all the best. Come January, Moyes can look at the situation, but we aren't exactly in a position to be fussy at the moment, and there are many decent sides that would welcome him, and for us to get him is quite lucky if we're honest.

 

Anyone who says he is shite is talking through their arse. He's a great squad player to have, and could be just the kick up the ass the team needs.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=8V-0tEM-SR0

 

 

He's shite...putting two clips of good strikes isn't going to prove he is not he's a striker it's his job to be albe to ermm striker the ball...

 

How is he the type of player to give the other lads a kick up the arse? He has never been a workhorse and he never will be he's a pretty average player who has seen better days and is a huge step backwards.

 

I'd have rather kept Beckford then even contemplate re-signing players of Faddy's calibre plus we have young lads knocking on the door.

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