Louis Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6335101.stm The council says the plans are at a very early stage Initial proposals for a new Everton Football club stadium have been submitted to a Merseyside Council. The club plans to build a 55,000-seater ground in a development that will also include high street shops, a hotel and a Tesco supermarket. Its preferred site is in Kirkby town centre, off Cherryfield Drive. Knowsley Council has pledged that the public and local business will be closely involved with the planning process as it progresses. Everton FC said an alternative to Goodison Park would increase capacity and improve corporate facilities. The club's last plan to relocate to a 55,000-seater waterfront stadium at King's Dock, Liverpool, was abandoned in 2003. Councillor Eddie Connor said the plans were at a very early stage. "There is a lot of work to be done before any initial ideas are formed into something more definite," he said. "We will be asking residents to help us shape the plan in order to give them something that will bring real and long term benefits to their town." -- http://aboutknowsley.typepad.com/news/2007...al_kirkby_.html Initial proposals have been submitted to Knowsley Council for a potential leisure and retail development in Kirkby. The proposals outline a development that would include a modern football stadium to house Everton FC and include facilities for conferencing and cultural events. As well as the Tesco superstore, the development would also bring additional retail space for a wide variety of high street shops. A preferred location has been put forward that is in the town centre area of Kirkby - adjacent to Knowsley Community College, off Cherryfield Drive, although the exact site and design of the proposed development are yet to be decided. Although a preferred location has been proposed, Knowsley Council, Everton FC and Tesco would like to stress that the development remains at an extremely early stage. The three parties will continue to work together to develop the proposals, but there is a long way to go before anything is recommended or agreed. Cllr Eddie Connor, Knowsley’s cabinet member for Leisure, Community and Culture, said: “The proposals are still only a very early outline of what the development could involve. There is a lot of work to be done before any initial ideas are formed into something more definite, and we will be asking residents to help us shape the plan in order to give them something that will bring real and long term benefits to their town.” “We are still unable to go into any detail on the layout of the development, because we simply have not got to that stage yet.” “We are committed to keeping residents and those who work in Kirkby, and in the wider region, informed of developments at every stage of our discussions with Tesco and Everton FC. We urge anyone who has an interest in the future of Kirkby to have their say, and we will be holding further community consultation events to allow them to do this.” Early indications suggest that the proposed development would help transform Kirkby into a premier leisure and retail destination, while creating around 2,000 jobs in the town – 1,750 of them permanent. This could boost Kirkby’s economy by up to £21.5m per year and significantly drive down unemployment rates in the town. The council’s Area Partnership Boards for North and South Kirkby recently hosted a large scale public meeting about the regeneration of the town, at which many people asked to be kept informed of progress. All residents, local businesses and other interested parties will be kept informed of developments at every stage of the process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Early days yet,but good to see the ball is at last rolling and the issue can begin to be resolved.Though I don´t agree totally with the proposed move,I agree we have to do somthing about our old famous ground.I would personaly like to see Goodison rebuilt.Some say its not viable,but I think with carefull planning it could be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 good news, hopefully this part can be sorted out quickly and a start on the new stadium can begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 It was nice to come home and here this news, finally we are moving forward in this regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 In a recent interview Keith Wyness said that Everton representatives have been looking at German stadia for inspiration and the RheinEnergieStadion in particular. The fact that the club may be moving to Kirkby does not bother me in the slightest but so far I'm disappointed that the club have not publically asked for opinions to find out what the mass of Evertonians would like in a stadium. I do realise that the phrase "beggars can't be choosers" will be the first thing that pops into the mind of some people's but it is a decision that affects us all and in my opinion we should be asked what we would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 i think the only thing they would ask us is move or no move to be honest i was hoping for something a little more spectacular than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 It looks like four big cattle sheds!Nasty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I'm having a sit in at Goodison until we get a carbon copy of the AOL Arena but called the Everton Arena! Anyone with me?? AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, AOL, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Steveo.. that's the wrong stadium... that website must have it wrong.. I think that's the Rhein stadion (Dusseldforf's ground). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Steveo.. that's the wrong stadium... that website must have it wrong.. I think that's the Rhein stadion (Dusseldforf's ground). I'm actually quite liking that but they should move the roof supports out and fill in the corners if thats the design they're looking into! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Wyness has said they are wanting four seperate stands and not a bowl :| MBE: Design of stadia. Obviously everyone is agog about the whole idea, even though you aren’t really at design stage. Is there any preference in the boardroom for the shape of a new stadium, for rectangular in plan as opposed to bowl-shaped? I don’t have a problem with either. KW: Well, we are working on concept designs because we have to……………. MBE: ………….so you are going through that exercise already? KW: Yes, we’re in the process right now. It doesn’t mean to say it’s the final design though. But we have to get to a broad costing to see how feasible the whole financial package is, which is obviously THE key element. So we have got some designs we’re working with right now. MBE: There’s no preference expressed for the plan shape of it? KW: I’m not going to get into that detail of it. All I will say is that bowl-shapes are probably not favourite at the moment. MBE: As I’m sure you know, Keith, a few of the new World Cup stadia in Germany are rectangular. The Borussia Dortmund stadium, the so-called “Magic Square,” the largest in the Bundesliga, is a particularly good example. I think the architect for it achieved a really excellent solution KW: We have been across to Germany, and the working design, if we get that far, will be taken from one of those stadia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Wyness has said they are wanting four seperate stands and not a bowl :| High square stands like that but with the top corners filled in cant realy be classed as a bowl more like Old Trafford than the Emirates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Louis - i typed that in on google images and thats what i saw. Liam - you tell me when to be there and ill join in, the AOL is nearly perfect in my humble opinion! just because Keith said not a bowl shape (maybe the emirates is a bowl shape) it doesmt mean no to round corners. AOL is recrangular, just with round corners. everything we need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE-TAC Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 That's one bloody ugly stadium!!! AOL would be nice tho but i'm thinkin can't we come up with something original?...and on the waterfrontwhere it shouldv'e been years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 This is Portos staduim.This is a stadium.54000 seater. http://www.olhares.com/estadio_do_dragao/foto610473.html http://www.stadiumguide.com/dragao.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 do we all think that we can realistically fill a 55,000 seater week in week out? dont want to become another team that can;t fill there stadia. it looks so depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 tbh i think we should become consistant as a team before we even think about a new ground, any money at the moment needs to go into the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 tbh i think we should become consistant as a team before we even think about a new ground, any money at the moment needs to go into the team. completley agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I would like to see Goodison revamped!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 in an ideal world YES, but it in reality it would involve far too much work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 in an ideal world YES, but it in reality it would involve far too much work. and it may also mean we would have to ground share with the shite while it happened.. the humiliation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 it's not just that.part of the city up there is built on marsh land and it's slowly subsiding so more building is probably not the best idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 in an ideal world YES, but it in reality it would involve far too much work. As much as Kirkby?I don´t think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I would like to see Goodison revamped!!!!! It's time to move forward. Yes Goodison holds a lot of history but it's time to make new history. That is afterall what Everton has symbolised in the past. As Licker has mentioned previously we have a lot of firsts. Let's not get stuck in the past and look to future away from Goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 in our glorious history we have moved a few times, and we have always been ahead of the times with Goodison, but this is all the past. the time is coming for us to leave our oldest home and bring the club back into the times! and to answer a few questions. bootle buck. its easier to do a new build than a re build. portos stadium is very very nice, and i imagine very intimidating too, but they have sadi no bowl shape. jamie. why wouldnt we fill a 55000 seater? our current average is about 36000 i think, which leaves about 4000 empty seats, take off a couple of hundred for the chang area in the main stand, 1000 for away fans, and i belive there is about 3500 obstructed views. that pretty much leaves all the unobstructed views sold. then there is "the new stadium effect". this pretty much shows with all new stadiums that the first 3 years or so will fill because of the whole new thing (anyone try getting tickets for the emirates this season?) so in theory we have until 3 years after any new stadium opens to grow into a team capable of uefa cup football every season. i big risk yes, but not if the stadium is payed for by a 3rd party. its all a big knock on effect, UEFA Cup football every season 55000 Stadium the best training and academy facilities this would look very competitive to investors (a lot more attractive than pompy and villa) BLUE TAC. if we use blueprints from another stadium it could potentially save millions! being original is expensive! breathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 More pictures of AOL Arena: http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Volksparkstadion.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Louis - why are you doing this to us? thats like porn to me and Liam at the moment! with a few tweaks it could be home! must end post before i go too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 sorry.. sadistic tendency.. we both know we will end up with Riverside II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 sorry.. sadistic tendency.. we both know we will end up with Riverside II. that hurt! alot! how cool does that look!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 But would we really want a giant illuminous district glowing TESCO sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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