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Keeper Howard

Defenders Lescott , Yobo , Valente ,Neville

Midfielders Arteta , Fernandes , Barton , Cahill

Fowards Johnson , Anichebe

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does moyes have a point in those words tho?

i dont know i didnt see the game, maybe some one who did could say if manny was any good second half.

 

but tbh id still have him, hes going to be a top player and we should sign him ASAP.

Or maybe its a cover up by moyes.....

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I think its a fair comment from Moyes - its not like Manny is going to be cheap to buy - Benfica want top dollar for a 21 year old. So he must have all the goods in his locker to warrant that type of fee.

 

We have seen some lovely touches from the youngster, and a quailty goal at the weekend - But I am glad we have got a manager who isn't blinkered in his assessment of a player or in aure of a few decent touches and a quality strike. £8M - £12M isn't small change to spend on a 21 midfeild player who dosen't like to put a full 90min in.

 

Over the years the league is scattered with player who have some 'sexy' touchs, but who don't like to put 100% in to every game.

 

You can afford that sort of luxury player up front or at a push out wide, but not as part of the heartbeat of the team in the middle of the park.

 

I admit I am also somebody who has been championing for the signiture of Manny, but maybe I also need to take my rose tinted glasses off, and not be overalled by seeing some nice touches at the expence of being a good all round team player.

 

That brings me to Joey Barton, for all the 'thing' surrounding the lad. He is a hard worker, can tackle, score and put in some very, very nice killer passes. One thing you are sure with Barton is on the pitch he will put a shift in and has a touch of quality about him. At around £5M is also good value for money for a seasoned Premiership player.

 

I have to say at this moment in time - Barton still edges it for me over Manny as a signiture I would like to see this summer. At 25 he is just now only just coming in to his prime for me.

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Forgot to put my ideall starting line up (as well as realistic starting line up)

 

Howard

 

Nellive Yobo Lescott Baines

 

Arteta Barton Sidwell D'alessandro

 

Nugent Johnston

 

 

Bench - Turner, Hibbert, Cahill, McFadden, Vaughan,

 

 

But could more than live with Cahill playing in place of Sidwell.

 

 

One thing we have in commen of the teams posted is Joey Barton - To have a very good holding/defensive midfeilder with a very good passing ability would be a huge step forward. AJ would thrive on some of Bartons passes.

 

A left back and decent midfeild balance has to be the prioriy this season. Could aslo live with Lescott playing as a left back if we can get onther decent centre back.

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Rob said.........""That brings me to Joey Barton, for all the 'thing' surrounding the lad. He is a hard worker, can tackle, score and put in some very, very nice killer passes. One thing you are sure with Barton is on the pitch he will put a shift in and has a touch of quality about him. At around £5M is also good value for money for a seasoned Premiership player.

 

I have to say at this moment in time - Barton still edges it for me over Manny as a signiture I would like to see this summer. At 25 he is just now only just coming in to his prime for me.""

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Somebody with a bit of sense. If Fernandes doesnt meet DMs criteria in the workrate department he wont pay that money for him, Joey Barton (despite the problems he carries about with him) still does it on the pitch, and i would go up to seven mill for Barton more so than for fernandes.

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Well that is part of the story I read on NSNO, they mention that it seems Moyes doesnt want Fernandes and prefers Barton. I agree with Licker and Rob Barton is a fantastic player and his effort plus skill is what we need. With Fernandes it looks like we get the skill without the effort to be fair.

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he is hardly gonna come out an kiss fernandes's ass as we havnt even signed him yet. He is not raving off him sending up the price. This is a very cute move by moysey youd have to be mad not to see the potentail class in this kid. plus its kind of a test to manny to see if he can push it up another level??? -that i would love to see

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I'm sorry but if Barton is such a top performer then why are Man City 13th in the table? I agree he is a good player and is certainly City's best player but we are currently a top six team looking to improve on that, and I don't think Barton could take us beyond that. He has six goals and four assists this season - it's hardly sensational is it? Add to that he's a gobshite and a trouble maker.

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I'm sorry but if Barton is such a top performer then why are Man City 13th in the table? I agree he is a good player and is certainly City's best player but we are currently a top six team looking to improve on that, and I don't think Barton could take us beyond that. He has six goals and four assists this season - it's hardly sensational is it? Add to that he's a gobshite and a trouble maker.

 

 

Maybe it's because the other 10 players on his team arent very good? Like he's said in the press recently. Just a thought.

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i would like to see this as my starting 11 next season

 

Howard

 

Nellive Yobo Lescott Baines

 

Arteta fernandes Cahill D'alessandro

 

B .mcarthy Johnson

 

i think fernandes is a must this guy gonna be ace, if u want quality then u got to pay the prices going am afraid, so it depends on what moyes has to spend in the summer, if its not much i think he will go for barton, but imo i dont think he is able to take everton any further

 

i was dithering about nugent or mccarthy so im gonna go with mccarthy as he is a proven goal scorer in premiership, as much as i like nugent, i dont know anout him just yet and 6.5m is a lot of money for someone who is unproven

 

so i hope moyes pulls this off and ill be a very happy scottish toffee

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I think a few others need to take of the rose tinted Fernandez specs of like I and a few other have, not sure you can call him class just yet.

 

As with regard to Sidwell - mark my words he is also a very decent midfeilder and would give Cahill a run for his money in all round playing ability and finding the back of the net - he has played a massive part in ensuring Reading are only 3 point behind Everton (with a game in hand). Being available on a free transfer this summer will make him excellent value for money. I would love him in the squad - better than Cahill - well I would like to see those two battling for a starting line up that for sure.

 

Man City would be a lot lower than 13th without Barton in the team. He wouldn't be a player who would go hidding in a game. A little class from the defensive midfeilder is a easy way to improve a team as long as you get the player with that quality - Barton is proven Prem player and within our budget. So would be the player I would be chasing first of all if I was Moyes.

 

6 goals and 4 assist for a defensive midfeilder with 10 poor players around him is fairly sensational if you ask me. Don't forget you are talking about a player who would take the Carsley/Neville unsung hero role and not a Cahill type of attacking midfielder. And thats why he is a better option than Fernandez in my opinion. You really need to think about the overall role he will have in the middle of the park. Fernandez in that role just isn't going to work in my opinion.

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...........................Howard.....................

 

Hibbert......Yobo........Lescott........Bridge

 

Arteta........Barton.....Carsley........Cahill

 

..................Nugent....vaughan..............

 

Subs Turner, Nevill, Osman, Johnson, Anichebe

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Of all the teams peeps are putting on here i've only seen one with a left footed wide player in the team D'elassandro.

 

All the others would be out of balance as we are now, and it just doesnt work.

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...........................Howard.....................

 

Hibbert......Yobo........Lescott........Bridge

 

Arteta........Barton.....Carsley........Cahill

 

..................Nugent....vaughan..............

 

Subs Turner, Nevill, Osman, Johnson, Anichebe

I couldnt see Nugent and Vaughan starting over AJ. He has been our best striker and goal scorer all year and for 8 million he isnt going to come off the bench.

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Not sure I'm with this one, are we alowed players we can get or just totally what you want.

Ill go with who we could get. for now..............

 

Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Valente

 

 

Arteta Carsley Nolan Fernandez

 

 

Johnson Beattie

 

Subo's - Turner, Cahill, Nugent, Stubbs, Anechebe/Vaughn

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I agree that the Barton is good and that Man City would be doing worse without him. But I just don't see him as a top player, and I also don't agree that he's really a defensive midfielder. He does get back and tackle but then so does Arteta, and that doesn't make him a defensive midfielder. If you think he's got those goals and assists as a holding player then I disagree - I'd say he's more of an attacking midfielder and I think we could do better.

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-------------------Howard------------------

 

Neville----Yobo-------Lescott-------Velente

 

Arteta-----Barton-----Cahill-------(Problem area?!?!?!)

 

-----------Johnson-----Nugent--------

 

Subs: Turner, Hibbert, Vaughun, Anichebe, Carsley

 

As can be seen, the 2 main additions to our squad are Nugent, Barton, and hopefully a left winger.

 

I think in the centre of the park, we will have plenty of bite and drive in Barton and Cahill. Both are also able to score goals.

 

Nugent and Johnson should hopefully form a good partnership and there pace add an extra dimension to our game. We have good cover from young strikers anichebe and Vaughun.

 

I would have included Fernandes in the starting line up, if we can manage to get him, with barton moving to the right and arteta to the left.

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Comeonblueboys said ..... Barton"" I'd say he's more of an attacking midfielder and I think we could do better.""

 

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Better than Barton ........Who, and at what price. :blink: C'mon lads be realistic, Cahill wide left :o Johnson on the Bench :lol::lol:.

 

Your havin a laugh are'nt you, Get real. :rolleyes:

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Ive only seen two people put Cahill wide left, and as for Barton I for one fail to see why the sun shines out of his arse (not that he keeps it in shorts that often). He scores some cracking goals and has an incredible work rate but he also has a horrible little aggressive side on him that i dont like. I agree that there are other players available that would do the job, ive already tried putting Nolan in there and i could see him and Cahill/Carsley forming a wonderful partnership.

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Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Valente

Arteta Carsley Nolan Fernandez

Johnson Beattie

Subo's - Turner, Cahill, Nugent, Stubbs, Anechebe/Vaughn

 

 

It's completely beyond my understanding how anyone can have tiniest sliver of hope that BT can still do a job for us.. I admire your faith Dunny but I think you're hopelessly wrong.

 

He has to go, for himself as much as us, no point prolonging the agony any longer....if he was a horse he'd have been down the glue factory months ago (but I'm with you on Barton, wouldn't care how good a player he is, he's an obnoxious shite).

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Ive only seen two people put Cahill wide left, and as for Barton I for one fail to see why the sun shines out of his arse (not that he keeps it in shorts that often). He scores some cracking goals and has an incredible work rate but he also has a horrible little aggressive side on him that i dont like. I agree that there are other players available that would do the job, ive already tried putting Nolan in there and i could see him and Cahill/Carsley forming a wonderful partnership.

 

Thank God it's not just me, well said Ian. Personally I feel if we can keep the nucleus of what we have at the moment, things will be tickety boo next year, Manny would be a great addition, shore up the defence with a left back, and some cover for sick note at right back.

 

The thing is, the players in the squad have gotten us to where we are at the moment, stick with them, except BT, sell the fucker to evostik, it's our best bet of clawing some money back. Unless one of the Glasgow 2 come in with some silly money.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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Comeonblueboys said ..... Barton"" I'd say he's more of an attacking midfielder and I think we could do better.""

 

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Better than Barton ........Who, and at what price. :blink: C'mon lads be realistic, Cahill wide left :o Johnson on the Bench :lol::lol:.

 

Your havin a laugh are'nt you, Get real. :rolleyes:

I agree Licker.

 

Not sure I'm with this one, are we alowed players we can get or just totally what you want.

Ill go with who we could get. for now..............

 

Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Valente

Arteta Carsley Nolan Fernandez

Johnson Beattie

 

Subo's - Turner, Cahill, Nugent, Stubbs, Anechebe/Vaughn

 

I hope your joking, Neville is total shite sell him off with BT, Carlsey has been good over the years but I think he will be more of a squad player ( Meaning incase of injures and maybe against a good team if were going 451

 

BT...we have give him enough chances and he wont change we all want him to come good but he simply wont.

 

Fernandes AINT a left winger thats why he can't do anything because we play him out of position moyes will ruin another player if we continue to play him there. He's a center midfielder FFS!

 

Howard

 

Hibbo Yobo Lescott Baines

 

Arteta Fernandes Cahill D'alessandro

 

Johnson Vaughan

 

Turner

Stubbs

Neville/Carlsey

Vaughan

Victor A

 

^ That would be realistic

Us All Dreaming, Well Me Anyway lol

 

Howard

 

Hibbo Yobo Lescott Bridge

 

Arteta Barton Fernandes D'alessandro

 

Johnson McCarthy

 

Turner

Stubbs

Neville/Cahill (To have that team we would probly have to sell him sadly)

Carlsey

Vaughan

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Barton's so called aggressive streak is exactly what we need, Cahill has it but not the skill to go with it and he can't tackle particularly well. Barton has everything we need with the money we have available. Im telling you know Barton wouldnt have disappeared on Saturday when the going got tough like Fernandes did. Fair enough Fernandes wasnt the only one, but Barton would have been shouting at everyone to calm down and do their jobs, much like what Neville should have been doing but didnt. If we signed Barton he would be our next captain after Neville if he could stop with his antics. Mark ;) my words

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im against the barton move due to off feild antics. but if moyes deceided to sign him i wouldnt be all up in arms, he is a very good footballer who i would love as a footballer, not a nobhead, here at everton.

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I put d'alassandro in my team as he is probabley the most decent left sided player we have been linked with, as somebody said, he is one signing we could do with. somebody suggested a team with a question mark on the left - highlighting the lack of affordable talent on that side of the pitch.

 

Comeonblueboys mentioned that Barton isn't a defensive midfeilder, well the fact is he actually is - He is the player who breaks up the ooppositions play. Poor arument saying he can't be a defensive player becasue he has scored goals. if you are going to debate at least know what you are talking about If you don't know the type of player he is watch him on match of the day, or just do an internet search on the type of player he is. The reason Barton thinks he should be in the England squad is to be the holding player alongside Gerrard or Lampard, not to play in the attacking role. He thinks of himself in as a defensive midfeilder.

 

Comeonblueboys do you really think we are in the market for Gerrard, Lampard or Essian as they are the player that are in the bracket of better than Barton.

 

The bonus with Barton is from that defensive role he can also deliver intellegent and quality passes, and get on the score sheet. With AJ's speed and the ability of Barton to get quality passes from deep on the counter attack, for me is a very exciting prospect.

 

Romey has it spot on, he won't be the type of player that dissapeared from the game like Fernandez did on Saturday. I agree Barton is the type of player that will make a good captain. He is somebody who want to give 100% on the pitch and expects everybody around him doing the same.

 

I know his off feild antics have left a little to be desired, but hopefully those are behind him. Not bothered about his moon, that was all done in good humour I would say, nothing sinister.

 

He can play football, and play it well, so I am more than happy for Moyes to pay out £5.5m on him, warts and all. I will take my chances, as even though he has had his incidents he has still done the business on the pitch.

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I totally agree with what your saying about him not dissapearing and being counted but I just keep thinking about that atroucious tackle he did on Pedro Mendes, unacceptable as a footballer. He may be a great footballer but he needs calming the fuck down in some asspects. If Moyes is the man to do then so beit but if it comes back and bites us in the arse i'm not gona be the one waving my "told you so" banner!! d'alassandro is a total unknown quantity to me so i wouldnt like to judge him, and as for Beatts, well I'm always gona keep faith no matter what the future holds for him, unfortuantly he doesnt have time on his side and if theres profit to be made then it has to be done, however the profit must be spent wisely and not pissed away on a chance successor. Nugent/Chopra, are the perfect ventures for me as they are young and hungry to prove they are premiership standard, they both have big futures ahead of them and it would be nice if that future was tith Everton Football Club.

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Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Baines

Arteta Barton Cahill (Unknown at the moment)

AJ Nugent

 

Don't have a clue at the moment who we would sign (if anyone) on the left. I know they were looking at the American Justin Mapp but at the moment I don't think he is good enough to fill that role for us. He would be a lot better coming on as a sub. I have heard D'Alassandro mentioned but expect it to be just another rumor.

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I agree with those who say we could use a natural left winger. I'm gonna throw a few names out there along with the question, which of these players would interest you most if you were the manager? Or would you rather have D'Alessandro over any of them?

 

* Matthew Taylor, Portsmouth (8 goals, 4 assists this season; contract runs through 2010; were some rumors that Moyes was interested earlier this season)

 

* Chris Brunt, Sheff Wed (10 goals, 10 assists this season; contract expires after next season; saw that he popped up on our transfer rumor board a few weeks ago, but has said - publicly, anyway - that he'd be happy to stay at Wednesday)

 

* Jason Koumas, West Brom (9 goals, 13 assists this season; Welsh international can play left or central midfield; said last month that he wants to move to the Prem, and WBA's asking price is apparently around £4 million; Moyes inquired about him four years ago but WBA didn't want to sell him at the time; rumor mill says he's keen on going to Portsmouth, though)

 

* Lee Cook, QPR (4 goals, 15 assists this season; contract runs through 2009; has been linked to a Premiership move, but QPR's Chairman said - publicly, anyway - that they don't want to sell him, which means their asking price is probably outrageous)

 

* Gary McSheffrey, Birmingham (17 goals, 19 assists this season; contract runs through 2009; probably zero chance that BC would move him this offseason since he's their best player and they just got promoted, but I throw his name out there anyway just because Moyes supposedly had an eye on him when he was at Coventry)

 

Oh, and count me in the camp that wouldn't mind signing Barton. I like the thought of adding his competitive fire to the squad, and as one of our sportswriters on this side of the pond has said, a team with one head case on the squad can usually keep him under control. It's when you put two head cases together on the same team that you're in trouble. Well we have no head cases right now so far as I can tell, so if we add one (Barton) we still ought to be alright.

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my team would have to be

 

Howard

 

Hibbert Yobo Lescott Baines

 

Arteta Cahill Barton Richardson

 

AJ Nugent

 

 

Bench turner, neville, vaughan, mcfadden, Anichebe

 

Think the team might be a bit unrealistic (meaning we will have to sign 4 new players) which i dont think we will.

 

Baines - I actually think wigan will get relageted so a bid for baines is a must, joining us would mean he wouldnt have to totally uproute his family to move

Barton - imo, could be a great player, we need an aggressive midfielder who can also use the ball well, barton fits the bill perfectly for me.

Richardson - some of you might disagree but he is actually a real left sided player, got great pace (which we need more off) and would give us a more balanced team. Still has some rough edges to his game but is a step up from anything we have at the moment. And it seems over the last 2/3 years we tend to sign one man u player so i'd take richardson.

Nugent - think he would be good in the premiership, another hard worker which would mean hell for defenders coming up against himself and AJ. Dont think many centre back would enjoy playing against these two. Both strikers need a few chances to put one away but i dont think we have the money to buy a striker that bags 25 goals a season. But there would be more goals from midfield than we normally get.

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Barton will not be ar Everton next season , he's seen as too much of a bad dressing room influence by Moyes , Baines would be a great addition , as would Nogent , and Fernandes is a must !

 

Howard Hibbert yobo Lescott Baines ..... Arteta Neville Fernandes Cahill ..... AJ Nugent ,

 

The midfield are pretty versatile and don't neccesarily have to play in this formation , Ideally an out and out left winger could be signed but Baines does get forward effectively , A lot of you seem to have ignored Tony Hibbert , but he's had a bad season with illness and injury and except for saturday's cock up is a good right back

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good call on richardson, im for a move for him. i think he is a decent player and would probs do well at everton. Wouldnt command much of a transfer fee, i'd say around £3m-4m maybe? SAF is going to be selling a few in the summer because of the amount of people signed onto united.

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