Adams Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 As were both the next big teams trying to break into the top 4 who do you think the better team is? Us or totenham (try not to be bias lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny the Blue Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 This is really dificult becuse we are so similar in ambition. It is definatly between us who breaks into the big four if anyone can. I'd like to believe it is us bt I'm just not sure given that they hae a much bigger squad and spending money (the two go hand in hand really). I ll say us on the basis that we did them 2-0 at ther place!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 theyve finsished 5th in the last two seasons, have more money and bigger squad,think there a bit ahead of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 yer spurs have the upperhand on us atm, but we can overtake them with the right signings this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I would say the difference between us and Spurs isn't very much.If one or even two of the "big" four slip up next season,then it will Everton and Spurs who are pushing for those places.Maybe we could soon see a"big" six developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Definately think Spurs. They have more money, and in a way more attractive to big players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinsuffolk Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Yep, Spurs at the moment. They finished 5th for 2 seasons - the previosu season they probably would have been 4th had it not been for the last day bug affecting the squad and then this season they finished ahead of us having been in the UEFA Cup until the latter stages of the tournament. However, I reckon we're 6th best in the country and moving forwards. Consider where we were say 5 or 10 years ago and call that progress. Unless a club gets taken over by a tycoon (would we really want that?) then progress in these Premiership days can only be evolution not revolution. If we add 3 or 4 quality players and a couple more squad players this summer there is every reason to think that we'll have another good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 (edited) First eleven, player for player who would you straight swap? Not many for me: Robinson - Howard - No Chimbonda - Neville - No Dawson - Yobo - No King - Lescott - No Ekotto - Valente - Possibly Malbranque - Osman - Yes Zokora - Cahill - No Jenas - Fernandes No(if he stays - otherwise yes) Lennon - Arteta - No Keane - Johnson - no Berbatov - BT- Yes So I have 3 possibly four better positions depending if we keep Fernandes. After seeing that, with in the intention of discounting my bias I had a look at the Official Premier League Top 100 players (Actim Stats). We have five in the top 30 to their one and seven in the top 100 to their six (see below). Obviously they have invested heavily in buying average squad players and through the course of a season containing a European campaign they would fair better as is. But I think Moyes will be bringing in several utility players over the summer plus a quality striker. With a bit of luck we can push on and challenge for fourth place. That will have to be the aim next season however unachievable it is with the amount of money that lot spend. 1 didier drogba Chelsea 628 2 cristiano ronaldo Manchester United 617 3 dimitar berbatov Tottenham Hotspur 611 4 wayne rooney Manchester United 580 5 frank lampard Chelsea 572 6 mikel arteta Everton 567 7 cesc fabregas Arsenal 565 8 gareth barry Aston Villa 561 9 benni mccarthy Blackburn Rovers 535 10 gabriel agbonlahor Aston Villa 517 11 ryan giggs Manchester United 505 12 andy johnson Everton 498 13 david james Portsmouth 489 14 dirk kuyt Liverpool 487 15 el-hadji diouf Bolton Wanderers 483 16 marcus hahnemann Reading 482 17 steven gerrard Liverpool 481 18 paul scholes Manchester United 477 19 steve finnan Liverpool 469 20 matthew taylor Portsmouth 468 21 tim howard Everton 467 22 gilberto Arsenal 467 23 ricardo carvalho Chelsea 463 24 edwin van der sar Manchester United 462 25 jose reina Liverpool 462 26 rio ferdinand Manchester United 461 27 phil neville Everton 454 28 kolo toure Arsenal 454 29 david bentley Blackburn Rovers 453 30 joleon lescott Everton 452 31 michael carrick Manchester United 445 32 nicolas anelka Bolton Wanderers 444 33 brad friedel Blackburn Rovers 443 34 nicky shorey Reading 441 35 pascal chimbonda Tottenham Hotspur 440 36 jens lehmann Arsenal 439 37 emanuel pogatetz Middlesbrough 435 38 paul robinson Tottenham Hotspur 426 39 michael dawson Tottenham Hotspur 425 40 jussi jaaskelainen Bolton Wanderers 423 41 ashley young Aston Villa 420 42 nemanja vidic Manchester United 418 43 kevin doyle Reading 418 44 jamie carragher Liverpool 417 45 stewart downing Middlesbrough 416 46 richard dunne Manchester City 414 47 liam rosenior Fulham 412 48 gary speed Bolton Wanderers 412 49 gary o'neil Portsmouth 411 50 olof mellberg Aston Villa 411 51 kanu Portsmouth 410 52 emmanuel adebayor Arsenal 408 53 mark schwarzer Middlesbrough 407 54 gary neville Manchester United 406 55 andriy shevchenko Chelsea 403 56 ivan campo Bolton Wanderers 403 57 sylvain distin Manchester City 401 58 peter crouch Liverpool 398 59 mark viduka Middlesbrough 398 60 morten gamst pedersen Blackburn Rovers 398 61 joey barton Manchester City 396 62 patrice evra Manchester United 393 63 xabi alonso Liverpool 392 64 joseph yobo Everton 391 65 alexander hleb Arsenal 389 66 jermaine pennant Liverpool 386 67 michael essien Chelsea 381 68 aaron lennon Tottenham Hotspur 376 69 ivar ingimarsson Reading 376 70 linvoy primus Portsmouth 372 71 kevin davies Bolton Wanderers 371 72 john terry Chelsea 370 73 abdoulaye meite Bolton Wanderers 369 74 darren bent Charlton Athletic 368 75 james milner Newcastle United 366 76 brett emerton Blackburn Rovers 365 77 steven taylor Newcastle United 363 78 andrew taylor Middlesbrough 361 79 brian mcbride Fulham 357 80 scott carson Charlton Athletic 356 81 lucas neill West Ham United 355 82 lee carsley Everton 349 83 thierry henry Arsenal 349 84 stephen hunt Reading 349 85 louis saha Manchester United 348 86 bobby zamora West Ham United 346 87 john o'shea Manchester United 345 88 talal el karkouri Charlton Athletic 345 89 sol campbell Portsmouth 344 90 george boateng Middlesbrough 343 91 thomas sorensen Aston Villa 341 92 ayegbeni yakubu Middlesbrough 340 93 robin van persie Arsenal 340 94 salomon kalou Chelsea 337 95 michael ballack Chelsea 337 96 daniel agger Liverpool 337 97 claude makelele Chelsea 336 98 nicky hunt Bolton Wanderers 335 99 jermaine jenas Tottenham Hotspur 334 100 obafemi martins Newcastle United 332 Edited May 20, 2007 by Bluetrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I didn't judge the whole thing on the starting 11. You have to look on the squad on a whole, and atm they have the better squad imo. They have more appeal to bigger players. Not only cos of the amount of cash they have compared to us but also the location could sway a players decision if it was between us and them. At the moment they have the edge, but things can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Different animals. We are much more resolute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) Looking at that Actim list it's an amazing stat that we have five players in the top thirty, beaten only by ManU (6) but ahead of Liverpool (4), Chelsea (3) and Arsenal (3). Would seem to confirm from a neutral point of view what we all know...that we have the basis of a hell of a team! Get the numbers up and add a little more quality in the summer, which from all reports will be happening, and we're seriously on the way. This really is an exciting time to be a blue. Who the fuck are Tottenham ? Edited May 22, 2007 by MikeO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 if im honest, Tottenham have a much better team than us at the moment, they are strong in every position and have a good squad to back it up. We are on the right lines, buying young only to improve etc but we do have a couple of major weak points IE right back, left back (presuming LeScott moves back to centre) and left wing. Spurs had one weak position (left back) but have just gotten Rocha in to fill it. They ahve been spending consistenly and well for 3/4 years now, we need to do that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 spurs but we're not near trying to break the top 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Good Skills Bluetrip, it does make interesting reading all that, but a do think spurs have greater depth Next season will be a toughy, but isnt it the same every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) Looking at that Actim list it's an amazing stat that we have five players in the top thirty, beaten only by ManU (6) but ahead of Liverpool (4), Chelsea (3) and Arsenal (3). Someone on the official site nicking my post... "Everton had five players in the top 30 - Arteta, Johnson, Phil Neville, Tim Howard and Joleon Lescott - which compared favourably to Chelsea (3) Liverpool (4), Arsenal (3) and Tottenham Hotspur (1)." ...nice to see we have influence in high places! Edited May 23, 2007 by MikeO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Gareth Bale has just joined Spurs for £10million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Gareth Bale has just joined Spurs for £10million. Just goes to show how crazy the prices are this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 its £5m up front, then potentially another £5m. he was always gunna go for a big fee, too many clubs have been "watching" him for the last year, so much speculation and hype always puts the price up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcssl Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 it's a close call IMO, however, I am not really that interested in other clubs...I would rather we focused on ourselves and like this season, pulled out all the stops to do the very best we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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