JoeQuince

16 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Don't see why only the manager is getting abuse. He picked the players, he never told them not to put a foot in. Too many players aren't arsed whether we win or lose. Schneiderlin, Gana, and Keane should never play for the club again, absolutely no commitment to the club. Be surprised if we've won a game were all 3 of them started. Alladyce doesn't like losing, annoyingly went for a clean sheet and nick a goal tactic, whereas some of these lot couldn't give a fuck about the result. If the players can't stick to a game plan for 20 minutes then they need looking at more than the manager. 3 down in 20 minutes is a disgrace when you've set up for a clean sheet. You can't blame the manager for that, that's all on the player's heads. 

One positive it looks as Davies should be starting every week from now on. 

I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t agree. Allardyce put together a back 3 (when we’re tactically comfortable with 2 CBs), started Mangala (who hasn’t had even a week of training), sent out a pairing of Gana and Schneiderlin (who we haven’t seen work well together for a solid year), neglected to play anyone who can connect play in midfield (Rooney or Sigurdsson, for instance), played Martina as LWB (when he can just barely do a job at LB), started Bolasie and Niasse (each of whom works hard, but they serve us better as subs), and clearly had no plan for how we would use the ball (you can’t ONLY defend with your backs to the wall—you need to relieve pressure somehow). The man is an absolute idiot. He set them up for failure and they failed. Maybe some of them downed tools (I really don’t think they did, except for maybe Schneiderlin, but he’s been shit all season). But, they were trying to protect a fort with nerf guns and one hand tied behind their backs. I wouldn’t blame them for downing tools, if they did. Allardyce is the worst type of English manager. Tactically clueless and dependent entirely upon his ability to motivate. 

I’m not going to judge him on today’s performance, considering he was thrown into the worst possible situation. That said, beyond a few anticipated errors, he did better than expected with the ball at his feet and was even attempting to shout orders around. Hopefully we can settle him into a pairing with Jags or Holgate (and keep it together for more than one match). 

“Disaster of a loan. He won’t get any playing time,” they said. 😂

DCL should feel shameful for that. 

And, I’m sure Sam is feeling like he deserves the credit for that goal. We’re down 4-1, mind you. 

Unreal sub. I, for one, hope Allardyce chokes on a ham sandwich tonight. 

I honestly don’t even care that he was offside. I hope the blame gets pinned on Allardyce. He will definitely blame the players for their lack of effort, even though he’s the fucking manager and he’s set them up for failure. 

I can’t (but, at the same time, absolutely can) believe that Allardyce isn’t going to make a change until the half, at the very least. 

This is unreal. That’s on Keane yet again. 

This is all on Allardyce. 

Williams is a fucking idiot.

I’m glad I have a drink in my hand for this one. 

12 minutes ago, London Blue said:

I agree that being around very good coaches makes a massive difference, but that has to be balanced out by playing games against competitive opponents where you put learning into practice. That's where you develop your skills, build your confidence and really learn the game. These games have to be against a good level of opponent and either a top championship or prem team are ideal teams to play in. 

Yeah. Ideally, I’d have placed him somewhere like Bournemouth. Not to knock the championship, but I wouldn’t want him playing at a club that isn’t in the Prem, if he has a chance to go to a good club in another top league. I just think the trade off of less games with more education (remember, Lookman is still a very raw talent, and he has played a fair bit of games in the lower leagues) is better than sending him down. So, I think we’re on the same page in that we would want both a good education AND playing time, but we just weigh the possible options slightly differently. 

1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said:

Hence why the club had options available for him.... The point is he's gone to a club that he will get minimal if much at all playing time 

...but where he will receive a good footballing education and train with top class players. 

I believe it was SAF who always told his players he’d rather have them go somewhere where they will benefit from top tacticians and players rather than somewhere they get playing time. Ideally, you’d like to see both. But, I really think it could be massive for Lookman’s development to be fighting for something at Leipzig rather than getting minutes in the Championship/League 1 and pulling off the same old tricks day after day. 

15 hours ago, Bailey said:

I think going abroad is a great move. He will learn so much more tactically rather than just staying in England. It' great to see an English player taking that risk and it shows the character of the lad.

Exactly!

I’d rather loan players go to a club with a good manager and other good players around, honestly. Game time is important, of course, but I’d rather them get a more well-rounded education in the game. 

Sounds to me like Sam just doesn’t rate German football. This is a smart move for Lookman and Everton, honestly. If he isn’t going to play here, he will actually get an experience that helps him develop there. Fat Sam will be gone in the summer. We get back a better, more mature Lookman with a chip on his shoulder.

Gahhhhh I know I’ve mentioned it already, but it’s such a beautiful thing to see Seamus out there making those runs. Once he gets his precision back, it’ll improve us even more. 

Why DCL and not Tosun? Makes no sense. We need someone who the ball will stick to, not someone to chase balls. 

Sam needs to make a fucking change. Rooney and Niasse off please. 

Oh, smooth one, Wayne

Another lovely little dink from Seamie. Must’ve been practicing these while he was out!

So happy to see Seamus doing what he does best

And, then Oumar does as Oumar does. 😂

That’s how you fucking finish! GET IN!!!