Wiggytop

I honestly think that good run of form post-deduction was... expected? I'm not sure any of us were all that surprised that the injustice of the deduction galvanized the team and the supporters. 
But then as it became clear that the deduction nonsense wasn't going away, plus a few key instances (the Onana pen being one) going against us, we inevitably fell into a poor run of form.
Ultimately, and it's been said a million times in this thread, Dyche is doing just about as well as any manager could with the given circumstances of this season. He's also now been with us for a bit and has a sense of how much of a mess the club is in, so wouldn't it make more sense to keep him in charge vs bringing in someone new who would have to not only learn that the squad is paper-thin and devoid of creativity and goals, but also to have to deal with everything going on in the background?
Stick with Dyche, please.

We got hit with a 10 point fine and went on a run of good form so that doesn't stand up does it?
Maybe onanas penalty literally did take the momentum out of our side.... like I said at the time (look at the form since that game).
 
 
 

Not at all. It was sarcasm. 

to be honest not one of the offensive players are stepping up to grab a goal or two.  You would expect wingers and midfielders to be chipping in here and there, it not just strikers, everybody's lost the final touch if front of goal. 

I think Dyche is doing a good job under extremely difficult circumstances, are there any board members left at the club.
Questions about our point's appeal, about the new ground, about the ownership, about players in or out.
Only one man is in front of the camera SD and he never dodges a question. 
This club is in the worst pace at the moment in its history, one man is keeping it going and fighting for us fans.
Without our points deduction we are 13th and comfortable, not been able to say that for many a year.
Give the man time, and a budget, and a proper run club, then judge him.

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 
However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.
All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.
The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 
I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 
Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.
If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 
I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

My lad told me this on the way home on Saturday, 1 error by each keeper, and we could be looking at 9 additional points. Granted if we hit the ball straight at the keeper, he’s going to save it, but that’s not always the case IMO.

Just a quick response.
My first game 1970, I was 10 we beat Chelsea 5-0, sat in the main stand with my dad, the only game we ever went to together.
fast forward to August 2014, walking past Everton 2, I went in with my 10 year old son, after looking at shirts we went upstairs to see if we get tickets to a game, we got tickets for top balcony upcoming Chelsea game, ooops,  0-2 within minutes, 3-6 full time, had to tell my lad it’s not always this exciting.
Now in our 7th year of ST, it’s going to be very emotional leaving Goodison.

My lad told me this on the way home on Saturday, 1 error by each keeper, and we could be looking at 9 additional points. Granted if we hit the ball straight at the keeper, he’s going to save it, but that’s not always the case IMO.

Just a quick response.
My first game 1970, I was 10 we beat Chelsea 5-0, sat in the main stand with my dad, the only game we ever went to together.
fast forward to August 2014, walking past Everton 2, I went in with my 10 year old son, after looking at shirts we went upstairs to see if we get tickets to a game, we got tickets for top balcony upcoming Chelsea game, ooops,  0-2 within minutes, 3-6 full time, had to tell my lad it’s not always this exciting.
Now in our 7th year of ST, it’s going to be very emotional leaving Goodison.

We created loads of chances in the early games of the season, guess who was leading the line, yep Maupay, DCL came back for the Villa game and put his head on the line and got concussion, missed a few more games and has been getting his fitness back, during that time we’ve not provided  as many chances, some yes but not as many. I have given him Harrison’s chest skim, Harrison knew nothing about it, it should be recorded as DCLs.

We created loads of chances in the early games of the season, guess who was leading the line, yep Maupay, DCL came back for the Villa game and put his head on the line and got concussion, missed a few more games and has been getting his fitness back, during that time we’ve not provided  as many chances, some yes but not as many. I have given him Harrison’s chest skim, Harrison knew nothing about it, it should be recorded as DCLs.

Goodison is a mix of fake and real, they talk about it when you do the stadium tour, I think most PL are now as it gives a better lasting surface.

We created loads of chances in the early games of the season, guess who was leading the line, yep Maupay, DCL came back for the Villa game and put his head on the line and got concussion, missed a few more games and has been getting his fitness back, during that time we’ve not provided  as many chances, some yes but not as many. I have given him Harrison’s chest skim, Harrison knew nothing about it, it should be recorded as DCLs.

As a back up, Beto is absolutely fine. Everyone knows DCL is first choice when fit. We cant afford to buy a striker better than DCL, and any striker of similar quality wont be coming here to sit on the bench.
We've got to be a bit realistic with our expactations.
If you want to see some goals from our strikers, then take a good look at the quality of the players around them, or the lack of. We dont create a lot, they feed on scraps.
Look at when we have Lukaku scoring for fun. He had Mirallas, Deulofeu, Barkley, Coleman, Baines. Put him in this team, he would struggle for goals too.
When DCL was scoring goals he had Richarlison, Sigurdsson, James, Digne, Coleman. 
Over the last five years we have sold so much attacking talent and replaced them with lesser quality players. Thats our problem in front of goal. We can all say about the chance DCL had against Villa, but that probably the only real chance and we've seen good players miss one on one before. We need to be more creative.

Goodison is a mix of fake and real, they talk about it when you do the stadium tour, I think most PL are now as it gives a better lasting surface.

He continues to confirm my opinion of him.

Ok here’s my take so far from seeing every home game bar Spurs this season
Beto, rough around the edges, not a like for like with DCL, needs to learn how to hold the ball up and bring others into play, can’t fault his enthusiasm.
Chimitti, or Chermiti, not seen enough on him as expected, not sure why we paid the money on him when we have Dobbin and had Simms and Cannon, Cannon seemed the more likely to succeed.
Young, bought as cover, not happy he’s played so much, hasn’t brought the experience he should have shown, if anything he’s like a headless chicken
Harrison, my bright hope, blows hot and cold, I do like his pressing and energy, would like to see him replicate his first season with Leeds in the PL goal wise, his assists are OK
Danjuma shows potential but doesn’t know how to be a team player, needs to get his head up and find others in better positions.

He's always likely to when he's coming on at the end of games against tired defenders.
DCL would look better doing that too but we need him from the start because he's a better player.

Barklay has gone to Luton Town with absolutely no pressure on him, and as maybe the big fish in a smaller pond he's flurished - your would imagine their fan love him. Maybe a good fit for both. 
I am not convinced we have missed out on him as a player - as would be very much different circumstances for him at Everton. He would have been a player who would have split fans, there is enough of a pantomine going on at this club at the moment.
He didn't do that great with villa, so think he may need a 'Luton' to bring the best of him out. 
 
 

Your right you can’t blame a player for wanting to improve themselves, but you would expect a player who was an Everton fan from an Everton family to have the morals and integrity to leave to leave on good terms with the fans and club. 
He shit his nest with me as far as I’m concerned.
 

Disappointing outcome. I.thought Mykolenko was good again though. He has been one of the few good signings during these chaotic years 

My philosophy when your opponents go down to 10 men is to stick another striker on, you don’t lose any advantage in defence or midfield yet you force them to keep their defenders to stay put.                                                         What we did was to stick another defender on which nullified our advantage of an extra man and allowed them to get more men forward, so you couldn’t tell they were the team down to 10, if anything we looked like the team who down to 10 men. 
A poor decision by Dyche and his coaching staff has cost us 2 points, of that imo there can be doubt. 

Only managed to listen to the game, but once again we’re a bag of nerves, to not hold on to the lead was awful, why couldn’t t we have just played simple passes and retain the ball?

I count that one that went in of Harrison’s mudflaps as his.