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His limitation (aside from health) is that he doesn’t create his own shot. He’s been poor 1 v 1 vs a defender his whole career and I’m not sure I can recall him scoring from more than about 12-15 yards out. It’s just not what he is good at and it’s why he’s not Harry Kane. Fox in the box, pretty good hold up play, good in the air but it’s what stops him from being a truly top end player. I don’t mean any of that to run him down. He’s having a good game and is an effective player that I’m glad to have in the team. He’s just always likely to be a bit limited in his game.

There is no response. Over the last 2 years did anyone get more MotM votes than Iwobi? I’m guessing it wasn’t particularly close. He’s not a perfect player but without him in the team we are in the Championship.

We are relegated without him

He was probably our best player last year. It was always interesting to me when our players were asked about our most skilled guy in training. He was mentioned often. He was played out of position for a while when he came here. Did some good things when played through the middle. Never got to the price we paid maybe but it shouldn’t surprise anyone if he is missed.

Not sure we have the players to be a possession oriented, ball on the ground team at this point. DCL needs crosses, Beto needs crosses seemingly.

Huh? This is a thread on Beto. I was under the impression anyone could respond to a comment. You made the point that you think his attitude etc.. puts him miles above Lukaku. I’m making the point that whatever their stories or personalities, we are in a position where we need results and Rom produced those. I don’t personally care about finishing 19th with some nice guys on the squad as opposed to 14th with less popular players.

I mean Lukaku was the best striker we have had in at least a decade by a mile..If not world class then just below that level and a nightmare for defenses. I’m not sure I’d take a lesser player who I thought had a better story if it meant relegation.

I also liked that he missed that chance embarrassingly and could have hung us head about it but seemed unbothered.

If he can be 75% of Lukaku he’s gonna help us a lot. He’s physical and fast with a head of steam. Coupled with being a threat in the air he will, at the least, take a lot of defensive attention when he’s out there. Love Dom but he’s just not a threat 1 v 1 with a defender. Beto will be.

That was very impressive. A thunderbolt

It’s not so much that he scored and had other quality chances…it’s the nature of that goal and those chances. That physicality is gonna be a problem for defenders. I get it’s Doncaster etc..but the ability to bully his way into a chance and then finish decisively is exciting and obviously reminiscent of Rom. Optimistic

Seems like a big ask for a player who will have barely trained with his teammates and has no experience in this league to walk right in and start. We’d be putting him in a position to fail right out of the gate. We all want help up top but that would be asking a lot, too much in my opinion.

As always it’s important to look at the minutes rather than just appearances. He’s closer to 1 in 2 than 1 in 3. Decent over there. 1 in 3 for us would be great.

I hope but 12m for Che and 25m for Gnonto seems like quite a lot for us right now. I suppose it depends how the payments are structured.

Do we think that Gnonto and a striker (Adams or another) will both be pursued or is it only one of them?

Yea so that’s what this is really about. They want him there to try and help promotion but if he sat out all season they would likely be able to sell him for about the same next summer given his age. They don’t have a real incentive, especially late in the window. His only recourse if he wants to get a move is to annoy their management and their fanbase enough where he’s just not going to take the field for them and potentially risk a future transfer fee

How long is left on his contract there?

Probably about what Dom is if he could somehow stay on the pitch.

Context matters. He had about 22 games worth of time in a poor team 5 goals 3 assists. In about 4 games worth of time in Cups he had another 5 goals. Overall he’s about a 1 in 3.5 guy in the premier league in terms of goals per 90. I would say that’s decent. Also provides some assists. Given our restraints he’s probably an affordable upgrade to Maupay.

And Iwobi

Yea this same thing baffles me. Every window we get the same comments about how business is conducted as if it’s the first time anyone has ever been through a transfer period. Getting a Gnonto or similar would be the cherry on top but I think we’ve done quite well this window given our restraints. I reserve the right to change my mind if we lose Onana or something but absent that, I’m encouraged.

Ha. Curious. Very curious

Groundhog’s Day every window for us. For those Bill Murray fans out there

Loads of potential obviously. I hope we at least get the year out of him.

This wouldn’t make much sense given they just sold us a player.