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  1. Yeah they have mate heres the link: http://4clubandcountry.co.uk/index.php?p=p...40&parent=0
  2. Cheers Mate I know everyone thinks the same. Terrible and shocking thing to happen lets just hope they nail the bastard that did it.
  3. I've heard it a few times now when "The Shite" have been on Telly. They sing something to the tune of our Arteta song - "Follow Follow Follow etc.." Is it any coincidence that they start singning something to this tune when EFC have been singing it for ages I think not. I also found out that they robbed "You'll Never Walk Alone" off Manure plus everyone knows the "Fields of Anfield Road" is robbed off Celtic is there nothing these lot wont nick? Thoughts anyone?
  4. I know that tickled me n all. God knows what the problem is. More money for us though if it happens.
  5. I mentioned this on another thread a while back when I heard it through me dad heres confirmation: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/...00252-19662967/
  6. I know mate he looks decidely twitchy every time the Yak subject is raised plus I've never like him since Euro '96 and his anticts now just ad fuel to the fire. He is an ugly bastard.
  7. Heres the link: http://www.bluekipper.com/stadium/stadium2.htm#aol An Open Letter to: Mr. Bill Kenwright CBE Chairman Everton FC Goodison Park Liverpool Professor Tom Cannon Ideopolis International Ltd., Rodney Street Liverpool Dear Chairman. You’ll recall that two years ago I was elected as a “special advisor” to the Board at the club’s Annual General Meeting, so it is only right that I give you my advice on the proposed Ground move. I am, also, writing to you because so many of my fellow Evertonians have asked my views on this crucial issue. I guess this reflects not only my role of a Business School Dean, but my long term – and very public – interest in sports finance. Like every Blue, I feel many emotions. Some of the best nights and days of my life were at Goodison; against Fulham, when we won our first post-war title, against Bayern and the 4-4 against Liverpool. Goodison was great – but even greater were the players and the fans. I want my children and grandchildren to look forward to the same kind of success so I’ve looked closely at the case for the move to Kirkby and the alternatives. Sir Terry Leahy has already completed some of the analysis I would normally make. He flags the scale of the Kirkby development – 80 acres against our current 7 acres and the slightly larger (than Goodison) Scotland Road Site – with all that means for development and new finance. He highlights the £150 million cost of the same stadium as a stand-alone project against £35M the Kirkby development is likely to cost Everton. Looking at the alternative sites to Kirkby, it is hard to see how the costs to the club could be kept below £150 Million. The contribution of local and corporate partners is crucial to keeping the costs to the club down. I admire Sir Mohammed Anwar Pervez and his achievements at Bestway, but there is a world of difference between its financial capacity and that of Tesco. According to the latest figures Tesco’s profits are twice Bestway’s total turnover! At £4 billion, its profits are fifty times greater than Bestway’s £73 million profits. It is hard to see how Bestway could provide significant financial support, when a £150 million stadium development would pretty well wipe out their entire profits for the last three years! Similar comments can be made about the local authorities. Here, I confess to some personal interests. Although I was born and lived off Stanley Road, my family – like so many Liverpudlians – was moved to Kirkby by the Council when I was eleven. Even now, although my company is based on Rodney Street, I have worked with Knowsley Council and found it an outstanding partner, as have Ford, Vertex, QVC and a host of others. I don’t doubt Warren Bradley’s sincerity, but I question his ability to deliver his promises about funding, planning permissions, access roads etc. I remember the Kings’ Dock and the apparent promises about planning permission around Goodison and developments around the planned arena. Working on Rodney Street, I am acutely aware of the problems faced by the Mathew Street Festival, The Fourth Grace, The Tram etc. I am, also, aware that Warren’s already going cap in hand to Gordon Brown to cover a £20 million deficit on the Capital of Culture. I am less than encouraged that a key role in Everton’s future will be played by Jason Harborrow, the Council’s newly appointed Executive Director for Culture, Media and Sport. We know him best, of course, as the Chief Executive of the Culture Company. This means that I must conclude that the sites in Liverpool require that the club must fund any new ground development here out of its own resources. That means finding at least £150 million, plus any lost income while the parts of Goodison are redeveloped if the “redevelop at Goodison” option is pursued. This raises some of the greatest concerns that I have about the future not just about Everton, but about many other top flight clubs in England. Despite the new money coming into the game through television, increased ticket prices, merchandising, Premier League clubs (if we include the risk investments of new owners) are massively in debt with total indebtedness now over £3 Billion or roughly the total Premier League TV income for the next 3 years. I want Everton to be relatively debt free, if the feared financial crunch happens and Hedge Funds (already under pressure from crashing stock markets) and others start demanding their “pound of flesh” from new investors in the Premier League. Every ½% increase in interest charges costs a club borrowing £150 Million an extra £1 Million a year– we’ve had four of these increases over the last year –on top of the £10 million required to service the basic debt for a stadium costing £150 million, plus any other of the club’s debts. The Kirkby alternative will involve debt, but using Sir Terry’s figure of £35 Million, an annual outlay of around £2.5 Million to service the basic debt for the stadium against at least £11 Million for the Scotland Road site. Even staying at Goodison with no redevelopment costs but lost revenues from obstructed views, limited executive facilities, weak local amenities etc. is expensive. The table below answers many questions for me. Comparing the three most widely touted alternatives and using conservative estimates of income and expenditure, the move can give us a minimum of £6.5 Million a year more than we have now to spend on players and other developments. The Scotland Road loop would actually mean £4.5M less than we have now or £11M annually less than Kirkby, even if we assume, as I do here, bigger average gates at that site. Besides this, the likely two year delay could cost the club around £15 Million in lost income and added costs. Similar analysis for a redeveloped Goodison indicates that this is the most expensive option with the lowest returns. Over the next 5-6 years, the Scotland Road site would reduce Everton’s spending power by £50 million compared to Kirkby. Kirkby Scotland Road Undeveloped Goodison Costs Annual £M £M £M Debt Servicing 2.5 11 0 Obstructed Views - - 1 Operating costs -1 0 0.5 Total 1.5 11 1.5 Net Additional Annual Gate 4 4.5 0 Executive 2 2 0 Amenity Development car parks etc 2 0 0 Total 8 6.5 0 Balance +6.5 -4.5 -1.5 I’ll always remember the glory days and nights, but if I want my grandchildren to have more glory days and nights from the great players we can sign – rather than the bank charges we can pay – for me Tesco and Knowsley is undoubtedly the best choice. I confirm, however, that whatever the outcome of the vote, wherever we play – I’ll support Everton. Yours truly, Professor Tom Cannon. (20/08/07) This fella make a very interesting number of points and he knows his stuff.
  8. Haha! fucking classic ther all bitter mate every one of them, fucking sad bastards. Hope that fella who sold his soul to the devil kiffs it soon so they can stop being so jammy!
  9. I Like it it looks very nice worth a purchase.
  10. How long before the refs cotton on to that do you think?
  11. This point stands out the most: Point 7 - Attendances: I can't disagree that we will lose some of our local support but I believe that if we did the vast majority would be prepared to travel that extra 3.5 miles. I also believe that the people of Kirkby, Ormskirk, St Helens andeven Wigan will come because of easier access to the Kirkby site. I know that last bit was controversial but even when Kings Dock was mooted there were some of us who opposed it and threatened to never go again. It is about growth, being prosperous andbeing real challengers again. In the Skysports world I can't see that again unless we change with the times. I Live in Warrington but go to every Everton Match I can (when work allows) going to Kirby doesn't bother me at all where ever Everton go I will go. It just sounds to me like most of these KEIOC nob eds live in Walton and are to lazy to fart let alone support their club fuck em!
  12. Manny Manny Manny! I love this fella (no not in that way) get him signed soon as
  13. Someone asked this question before and the answer given was that he can play for us even if he plays in europe for them as they are two different comps. Mascherano did it for the Shite (champs league) and West Spam (Uefa).
  14. Sick of hearing the same old same old, fact is Everton need this move like it or not you can big up the Loop site all you want but is is not big enough for what we need and the fact is we need a commercial partner to be able to build in the first place and compete with other premiership teams financially. Moving to an industrial estate? don't know waht you reading mate but its gonna be in the centre of kirby in the borough of knowsley, plus did you know that for every £1 Liverpool FC city council are bringing in Knowsley council is bringing in £5 moving in the right direction I think. Plus in a few years Knowlsey will be under Liverpool City council anyway, no arguments. I take it Licker that you reside in Walton?
  15. Craccer ur crackers mate, how can a seriously "lazy" player score 16 goals last season and be top scorer for a crap club and then have so called fans say that we can have him cos he's crap. Bollox I think.
  16. Think your mates playin with fire there haha!
  17. Watched Everton v Coventry in 2001 I think it was we got beat 2 -1 absolutely depressing it was a gash game n all. Bloody Coventry!
  18. Hang on wasn't this thread about a goalie? We've taken Wessels on trial from cologne with a view to a free
  19. What he is saying is right though with regards to the fact Liverpool FC county councilgive land to them (LFC) that we had enquired about before and got a grade II listed park answer instead of yes Like LFC got no problem. Also when negotiating the Kings Dock Liverpool city council drag their heels and make up a load of bollox about city centre conjestion problems on match days (which they did). Then offer us nothing for 18 months and only until the threat of leaving has it engaged a few and only a few people in the council to make half hearted attempts to pursuede that sites are available in the city boundary with the finance. Look at the size of stanley park site compared to the trumpet site no copmarison mate. I would prefer to stay in the city boundary don't get me wrong but we need to move on and in a couple of years anyway Kirby, Sefton and Huyton are all gonna come under Liverpool.
  20. Every point he makes is a solid one
  21. Apprantley we've been linked with him before, he's bezzie mates with BK
  22. Philip Green owns or is the Cheif Exec of the Arcadia group who own M&S, Burtons, Topman etc. He's minted to say the least. I think he may fall in the billionaire category.
  23. Quick positive thoughts, this will happen, this will happen, this will happen, this will happen
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