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Heard earlier today that rumours of Carragher being called to the England squad were not simply hot air. Personally I think if I was Jags, I'd be really pissed. Of all the players that could go, Carragher in my opinion doesn't deserve a mention, he has hardly been outstanding. A case of jobs for the boys perhaps???

Personally, although novel, I don't like this idea. I actually find it quite insulting, as EFC have been thwarted at every step to build a new stadium, yet, only when the difficulty has raised questions of conspiracy or when LFC's new stadium started to lose momentum, has anyone external to EFC given any kind of a crap. As much as this is irritating, I would be quite happy to keep our heads down and plod on, as it surely can't be too long before we attract a billionaire benefactor. Then it will be 'fook 'em all'

Here's hoping that Moyes isn't tempted. I mean, Robbie Keane, that's one hell of a carrot to dangle. In all seriousness, the rumour mongering amongst the press is laughable at times. Why would we want another over the hill, journey man, past his best, has been. I said sarcastically in another thread that I missed the 90's, but a move like this would definitely put us right back there in glorious mediocrity. As long as we put a decent contract in fornt of Pienaar, he won't be going anywhere, unless Spain comes a knocking. Injuries aside, we were definitely a top four side but for our poor start and would have finished 3rd or 4th had we not been so unlucky. Everton have more longevity and consistency in the team than Spurs, and I am sure that Pienaar won't be sold on a Champions league dream by a side that will slip back down the table next year. Moyes has repeatedly stated we are not a selling club now, and I see no reason why this deal wouldn't get put straight into the bin. Tripe!!!

Of course nobody would want anyone to be hurt. I'm sure the Kopites are of the same sentiment, especially following their kind posts regarding Fellaini on one of their own forums.

Come on fellas, I think this is a bit OTT. Apart from the fact that Arteta wouldn't leave for City in a million, these comments are rather overstating what we all think of our treasured Spaniard. He 'is' good, very good, but so is Pienaar. On balance, over the last two years, I have thought we were a better side with both of them playing. When they are not together, I think we are more penetrative with Pienaar alone, than Arteta alone. This is not to say I think that Pienaar is a superior player as that is absurd. I just think that Pienaar tends to bring in the fullbacks more and creates more movement from the midfield and strikers, where Arteta is more of magician. I also think Pienaar is more consistent, as is his workrate and tracking back. I wouldn't want to lose either and value each to the team equally. Value wise, Arteta 3 times Pienaar, I think not, and if we don't have a contract for Pienaar sewn up before the world cup, we might see some silly offers for Pienaar. Out of curiosity, what would you value Arteta at currently?

lol well that's what you get when you don't read back what you have just typed. The obvious word is 'should' that has been omitted. I have wound my neck in, clipped and stowed my lip.

No!! It's mine, you just stole it in my absence!!! lol

Nice one Craig. Continuing the sublime to the ridiculous posting on this thread. While we're at it, why don't we sell Rodwell to Man Utd for silly money too, get rid of Cahill before he gets to old to sell and also Fellaini while people still think he is a good prospect. We can then scour the dregs for the biggest load of free shite we can get hold of, and perhaps pay over the odds for a flash in the pan or a long in the tooth journey man. God I miss the 90's.

Agree that we would have taken him a cople of seasons ago, but he wouldn'y still be with us if we had. We have grown since then and even in his prime wouldn't be good enough for us. He may have shined in a poor Wigan side, but they have been relegated and I can't think of any true Premiership quality players playing for them. We have a good, if small, squad. This would definitely NOT be the way to improve it.

I was on of the people jumping for joy the most when Pienaar joined us, and have been pleased he has lived up to my expectations. I would be sorely disappointed if we let him go and would also be shocked. Apart from the fact that he has just been named our player of the year, an indication surely that the club value his significant contribution and value, it would also go against quite vehement comments from Moyes that we are no longer a selling club, ( following the Man Utd game when the press went nuts over Rodwell ). The older I get, the less I take anything the press says with any value or credibility. The fact the player and agent have even discussed a move has been due to persistent and relentless baiting by the media. So Pienaar has said he wants to know who he is playing for next year 'before' he goes to the world cup. What exactly does that mean other than he wants to extend the 1 year left on his deal and he is not airing his linen in public. As frustrating as it is, I like the way we do our business quietly, despite any sensationalising by the media. As a nod the pessimist, if he does leave, I would think it will then only be a matter of time before Moyes goes, as at that point, Everton will have set their stall out that they have lost any ambition at all. But, I don't believe thats the case.

(Puts tin hat on in anticipation of a vicious onslaught) I actually agree with the theory of this thread. I will say that I wouldn't let Jags go, and I would also keep Neville as he is actually rather versatile and consistent. However, Distin, Yobo and Hibbert would not be missed, PROVIDING ( and this really is the crucial part) we were in fact able to attract two 'quality' players in. And that is where this all falls down really for me. In theroy it's great, but in the 'real' world, we have neither the financial clout, or even European football to tempt suitable replacements. So I will contradict myself now, and say, that unless some Tycoon comes in for us, we should be happy with what we have, as they are certainly not bad, we just want better.

Hi everyone, been a while since I have posted. Love the new, fresh forum. Sweeet. Which brings me to my post..... The who should we sign question that looms like a damp squib waiting to happen every year for us blues. Well, after reading about our interest in Scharner, I just had to find an outlet to 'vent' off. We have made solid and steady progress by bringing in young and progressive talent under Moyes, with the odd expception and there are not many 30+ players that make a positive or significant impact. I certainly would not view Scharner as a player of that calibre, and I think he would be best placed to accept he is going down with a team that resembles his level of ability. Any hooo. Although he is free, he would still want to be paid. I would much rather we continue to bring in and nurture some up and coming talent, as it is clear we have the basis of a very effective, well balanced squad. For example: Ajax have a plethora of upcoming midfield talent at the moment. In particular, I fancy Christen Erikson ( not literally ). He is a player that can control a game and has a great football brain. Seems to pick out passes that nobody else sees and is able to slow down or pick the pace of the game up to suit. Would cost a bit, as there are a good few clubs looking at him I believe, but nevertheless, would be just the ticket, and would probably cost less than Defour and may even be easier to obtain. As for strikers, what about Sam Baldock from MK Dons??? Small, penaly box finisher. We seem to have plaenty of great player getting balls in and plenty of people winning crosses and long balls. We could do with someone in those tight areas to 'finish' clinically. He's a terrier of a player and has a great eye for goal. Again, he may cost a bit as he is English and has played for England U20, but, cheaper than any established player at home or abroad, probably. I have no doubt that Moyes will pull another 'rabbit out of the hat' this summer, and there have been rumours, as usual, of us 'scouting' many players. But our lack of financial clout and failure to qualify for european competition this year is going to have a significant impact on transfers.

That's all the lad needed. Never really got the chance when he first came and his confidence dropped. I think he can feel he has the backing of the fans and seems to be really enjoying his game and it isn't half showing. Was obviously tired against Arsenal, but made up for it again last night.

Firstly, thanks to the City fans who have registered to bring their thoughts. Always a pleasure to hear what other teams fans think, adds perpective. I personally think Jo could be a runaway success. He was one of Moyes top targets. You have to remember that we were priced out as big money backers came into the market and prices were inflated. I mean come on guys, how much for Bellamy and £100 million for Kaka??? I'm glad he turned that down, that would have been the death of football. We have missed a big imposing Centre Forward and he could fill that gap well, especially with our wide players. I know he probably won't play that way as he is more of a striker, but if he stays, think about him and the Yak up front. If he can master the classic Centre Forward role, Yak is very good at finding space and shows good movement. Could be a match made in heaven.

Me fooled to. S*** myself then pissed myself laughing. Nice one.