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you promised him you'd get European football when he handed in the transfer request. Since then you annoyed him more by a group of your fans shouting at him he's rat and booing him.

You kept Stones last summer because you made him promise you couldn't keep. No players currently at Everton will buy that again. Having a wealthy owner gets you nothing, how much have you spent this summer. farhad moshiri got 1/9 of the wealth Abdullah bin Musa'ed bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and look at what they've spent since he arrived.

Totally different to Holgate/Stones. Hes a midfielder playing at right back. Wants to improve at Oakwell. Had a chance to leave at 16 to Manchester United and told them no thanks

I enjoy or enjoyed watching Everton but everything comes to it's end. I can see lukaku barkley leaving in the next 13 month. They will see what Stones gets to experience and want some of the pie.

you're sensitive sorts on here aren't you. Didn't like it when Stones told you to calm down (rightfully so) and when I come on to tell you a little bit about a player most of you haven't seen much you got all defensive. but money doesn't buy your players, right?

It's a more complex deal to the Stones one. It's got clauses in for all sorts. You may or may not know that Barnsley received money for him making his debut last week. I've heard the deals also got a sell on like Stones but could be a higher percentage.

Great to see Mason Holgate doing well at Everton. Okay, it's very early but he's a highly talented defender that's had the pressure of living in Stones shadow for a long time. Be that at Barnsley or Everton. What you have in Mason Holgate is a highly driven young footballer that will do whatever he thinks best for one person, Mason. So hopefully it turns out well for him at Goodison but just remember that he's on a journey to the very top and most likely will be looking to move at some point when he's reached the summit of what Everton can give him

Top article from Savage on it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/robbie-savage-john-stones-saido-6338665

Carrick, Modric to name two more.

Seen it happen lots of times before. I can see Stones head not been right this year. The media will attack and then he will not be the player he was this summer.

I was just putting over a view without the blue tinted glasses of this forum. Honestly I don't think it's good for Everton everythings that gone off. Everton are a club that haven't sold a player that wanted to leave and could have got the second highest fee of any defender in the world. Now other up and coming players will be thinking. I've got a,b and c to pick from. Say Tottenham Spurs and West Ham to choose from. tottenham have a proven record of developing players and when they want to leave they get a very good fee for them but don't hold them to ransom. Also a London club which is massive to a lot of players. West ham, a up and coming club that will be moving to a new stadium in London. Again given the chance they would develop a player and then sell him for a good fee. Everton on the other hand, A northern club, okay developed players to a good level but won't let them go. Hes got a big agent that plenty of contacts.

With all respect most of that's before the likes of stones and Lukaku were born. How does it affect those players in the future? They aren't fans of the club

I think I'm realistic. Everton aren't a top top club in England never mind a top club in Europe . Everton have had to sell players in the past. Tottenham, Manchester United, arsenal, Liverpool have all had to sell players that they wouldn't have wanted to so why not Everton. You have done that before. Realistically Everton aren't a champions league team and don't look like been one in the future. Lukaku made comments was it last season saying that he hopes to sign for a top club in the future.

Do Everton fans worry that in 12 months he won't be worth what he's worth today and when he goes hell not be worth 35 plus million. I think this was the case when Everton sold Rodwell or its at least what I remember reading.

What I'm trying to say too is that e dry club does it. Barnsley have done it to teams. The. Clubs Barnsley do it to will do it to teams too......