Aaron Ramsey

[Mikel's Left Peg 0]

According to the BBC we have had a £5m bid accepted for Aaron Ramsey

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ity/7433277.stm

[MikeO 12,973]

It seems a lot to spend on a 17 year old lad with only twenty odd championship games to his name but it would be a hell of a coup to nick him from under Ferguson's nose....and a lot of people seem to think he's worth it.

 

Needs to be a hell of a sales pitch from Moyes to beat off United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

[jamiemaher85 1]

Good to see we are being active in the market, I can't see him choosing us though unfortuntaley. I have seen the odd performance from him but can anyone shed any light on how good this lad looks?

[Everton_Worshiper 0]

Thats more like it...being linked to up and coming stars....£5m is not a lot in todays transfer market.

[jamiemaher85 1]

I wonder if the deal is the same as Man U's, where they have already agreed to loan him back to cardiff for a year

[EvilG 0]

I dont mind either way about this one for one five million is too much for a kid who's made only sixteen starts in a career that began in January just gone.

Everton have the advantadge of not needing English players for the future as roughly seventy percent of our first team are English. Some of the other clubs vying for his signature don't have that luxury.

Any club buying for the future in which category Aaron firmly sits must take into account Sebbs new rulings. If this boy was English I wouldn't expect us to have any hope of signing him. However he's Welsh and this may be a stumbling block for some clubs.

[Romey 1878 13,611]

Well, Ramsay wants first team football and doesn't want to go back to Cardiff because he doesn't feel it will help him improve (apparently), so we would seem to be in a good position.

 

EDIT - Why can't we officially announce it on the official site? Surely, this is news that would make Everton fans happy and therefore would be news the club would want to release?

Edited June 4, 2008 by Romey 1878

[jamiemaher85 1]

I'm also surprised that it hasn't been mentioned on SSN at all either

[Everton_Worshiper 0]

Well, Ramsay wants first team football and doesn't want to go back to Cardiff because he doesn't feel it will help him improve (apparently), so we would seem to be in a good position.

 

EDIT - Why can't we officially announce it on the official site? Surely, this is news that would make Everton fans happy and therefore would be news the club would want to release?

 

Probably to avoid embarrasment of a transfer falling through, e.g Vogel.

Then again, there is still no news of Moyes signing so maybe Moyes wants to see players signed before he signs...?

[Romey 1878 13,611]

Probably to avoid embarrasment of a transfer falling through, e.g Vogel.Then again, there is still no news of Moyes signing so maybe Moyes wants to see players signed before he signs...?

 

 

I understand that but the club knows that some fans are probably getting restless at no transfer movement at Everton so this would show that we are actively looking and making moves.

[Everton_Worshiper 0]

lol do you think this is a subtle hint to ramsey...?

 

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/temp...-new-faces.html

[aaron 811]

confirmed on SSN too

[jamiemaher85 1]

Watching SSN at the moment and the have just said that Cardiff have agreed a fee with us, but we are refusing to admit to it. Wierd. Also said that the shite have agreed a fee

[aaron 811]

he will be a quality signing if we got him.

[Romey 1878 13,611]

Watching SSN at the moment and the have just said that Cardiff have agreed a fee with us, but we are refusing to admit to it. Wierd. Also said that the shite have agreed a fee

 

 

We really are a strange club aren't we? We're refusing to admit making a bid for a youngster with a lot of potential who is courted the very top clubs makes sense doesn't it?

[aaron 811]

its the everton way isnt it!

[jamiemaher85 1]

I can't make head nor tail of it. Seems stupid to activley deny the offer has been made, making no statement at all i almost understand, but denying it altogether when cardiff have confirmed we have had a bid accpeted, not just made but axccepted, makes no sense. Having got a clue whats going on with us

[aaron 811]

possibly a smoke screen? we let fans think where after big named players but actually where not. give us hope then shoot us down.

[StevO 5,790]

it is on the official site

[coxy051 3]

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/rams...d-accepted.html

[jofanon 232]

it is on the official site

This kid must be something special.

 

Can't possibly see him starting for Man U so here must be tempting if he GENUINELY wants to play football.

[Everton_Worshiper 0]

^^^ let's hope that is how he sees it!

[Romey 1878 13,611]

If we're willing to spend £5million on an unproven youngster we must have a fair wedge to spend this summer you would think.

[EFC fan in oz 0]

Be a massive coup if we could pull this one off considering the teams following him although i'm not sure how good he is. Sounds like the shite will enter the race to sign him as well, so will be us, Man U, Arsenal and the shite - he's certainly got a massive decision ahead of him, only 17 as well. Was thinking of the possibility of us signing Joe Ledley to help him settle in as i know we've been linked with him too but again not sure if he's that good either. Be interesting to see how this one goes...

[Josh Berno 0]

I think these players dont understand that if he goes to Man Utd he won't get a game for sometime whereas here Gosling is already being mentioned for the first team and hes only young and only joined in january.

 

It would be good to snatch him from under Man Utd and Arsenals noses!

[Jay Bernard 0]

I have a bad feeling about this. How about this theory....

 

Don't be suprised to see Man U drop out of the race. Fergie knows that Moyes is highly skilled at bringing through raw talent and turning them into top players and perhaps better than himself at it. Maybe he will let Moyes do the lads training for him and then just snap him up in a few seasons when (if) he becomes a top player.

 

Hes already done it once with a certain other talent (shrek) so perhaps again.

 

Sorry am just in a conspiracy mood but we do in a way have a pact with Man U in terms of transfers and in our hatred of the RS.

[Josh Berno 0]

Good theory brother

 

Don't know wether we could make a deal with them and say let us sign him an we will train him up give him vital first team experience and then sell him in a few seasons.

 

It would be guttering if we done this and he was good and left but by that time he may have helped us get higher in the table and we could atract even better players than him... Dream over!

Edited June 4, 2008 by Josh Berno

[aaron 811]

thing is we dont have to sell him if we sign him. Simple really. we tell united where to go and fuck themselves.

[Josh Berno 0]

Yeah lmao I was thinking that too but the player has a say tho and it could be on a contract (a clause) so I don't think we could get away with it.

Edited June 4, 2008 by Josh Berno

[aaron 811]

no it wouldnt be on a contract clause to say we HAVE to sell to united when they want him. United could try buy first option on him but end of the day if he joins us we own him. No one else, we dont have to sell to anyone we dont want to.

But i do agree it is upto Aaron (great name btw ) to decided who he wants to join. Good luck to him whoever he joins.

[MikeO 12,973]

Listen to the Rat Aaron...

 

Kevin Ratcliffe believes that Ramsey should strongly consider his potential first-team opportunities and the reputation of David Moyes before signing for anybody else.

 

"I think it's about playing first-team football," Ratcliffe told BBC Radio Merseyside.

 

"I think he has more of a chance at Everton of gaining that first-team experience and going that next step."

 

"I would describe him as an Arsenal-type player. A player who receives the ball under pressure, is very, very composed, can pick a pass and score a goal and is not afraid to make a tackle as well. He's got the potential but he's still got a long way to go."

 

"I'm sure Dave Jones will tell him everything he knows about the football club and David Moyes, as will Paul Wilkinson.

 

"There's plenty of background for him to get to know about the club from other people down there."

 

Much of Moyes’ success on Merseyside has been down to his proven track record of bringing players through from the lower leagues.

 

Signings such as Tim Cahill from Millwall, Joleon Lescott from Wolves and Phil Jagielka from Sheffield United have led to Lescott and Jagielka going on to make their full England debuts, with Cahill now one of the top attacking midfielders in the Premier League.

 

[scouse 50]

Hopefully he will listen to rats!

[Josh Berno 0]

Yano he should be our contract negotaitor That could make him sign for us... hope he does anyway!

[EvilG 0]

Theres alot of interest in this young man, lets hope he keeps his feet on the ground. Lets hope too that he's got trusted people around him to help him make one hell of a tough decision and that he isn't influenced too much by his agents.

 

1st team football in the premier league or three or four years warming the bench for the big four, perhaps a start in the carling cup and the probability of being loaned back to a championship club anyway.

[Mikels Left Tezzer 0]

Theres alot of interest in this young man, lets hope he keeps his feet on the ground. Lets hope too that he's got trusted people around him to help him make one hell of a tough decision and that he isn't influenced too much by his agents.

 

1st team football in the premier league or three or four years warming the bench for the big four, perhaps a start in the carling cup and the probability of being loaned back to a championship club anyway.

 

Lets face it, we should have moved a lot earlier if we wanted him. Hate to be defeatsest but he will choose Manu or Arsenal over us.

[adamsmith69 1]

We tried in January to get him!!!!!!! couldnt of been much earlier than that.

[Heather_6 0]

I reckon he'll go to Arsenal.. hope its us though!

[jmurph 0]

maybe ramsey might come to us if we went in for him in jan.. he might just think that we are that interested in him and want him more than man utd

 

happened to benni mccarthy when he joined blackburn he turned down the other clubs coz their gaffer was showing more interest

[BLUE-TAC 0]

Thought benni mac was all agreed (with player & club) but porto had to pull the plug cos they'd lost a forward? Sure it was virtually a done deal.

 

Not seen much of ramsey but it says evrythg if 4 of the top 5 premiershp clubs are fighting over him. Just hope we've got plenty more to spend on plyrs who are more likely to play next season.

[MikeO 12,973]

Chris Beesley, Liverpool Daily Post

 

EVERTON’S chances of landing Cardiff City midfielder Aaron Ramsey could be handed a major blow after it was reported that Manchester United’s Cristiano Ronaldo has publicly declared his desire to play for Real Madrid.

 

What a ridiculous connection. United seeing Ramsay as direct replacement for Ronaldo .

[Romey 1878 13,611]

http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=339782

 

 

Thank god it's not Wyness selling the club to him

[Romey 1878 13,611]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400eve...-name_page.html

[jamiemaher85 1]

It will be interesting to see how this one pans out. When I first began reading that article i felt a bit pissed off, but when you read risdales reasoning you can't really complain about it. Of course he will wan't him to join Manu if it means they still get him for 1 year more. Just depends if he wants Prem football right now or still wants to cut his teeth at a lower level for a little while longer. Hope he chooses us though of course.

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z 23]

I think the fact he could join everton and stay with everton could apeal to him instead of going back to cardiff

[scouse 50]

Hope so, was taliking to a cardiff fan and he said he thinks he will sign for Utd.

[Johnny Bryant 0]

hes supposed to be making a decision within the week... look forward to finding out who he choises.. hope its us though

[jofanon 232]

Sign for the European and domestic champions and learn alongside the greatest player in the world...

 

Or...

 

Sign for us and play along side Phil Neville in a shitty old stadium.

 

I don't hold much hope for us to be fair.

 

If I wasn't an Evertonian I wouldn't sign for us to be fair to the kid.

[adamsmith69 1]

Sign for us - an improving side and get first team football

Sign for United - not play with the best player in the world (going to madrid) spend another season at cardiff on loan and then still wont get in the first team

Sign for Arsenal - Not get a look in apart from carling cup

 

I know what i would prefer, even if i wasn't a blue

[carlmc25 0]

Sign for us - an improving side and get first team football

Sign for United - not play with the best player in the world (going to madrid) spend another season at cardiff on loan and then still wont get in the first team

Sign for Arsenal - Not get a look in apart from carling cup

 

I know what i would prefer, even if i wasn't a blue

The Arsenal bit is probably spot on and the Man Utd bit MAY be true, but you have to remember Utd were the team who famously won the league with kids (as Alan Hansen put it). They have a history of playing their young players (Rooney, Giggs etc) and even the likes of Nani got a fair few games last season. I expect Everton to make a couple of signings in midfield as well as Ramsey even if we sign him, I wouldn't guarantee him a spot in our team either, he couldn't even get in the Cardiff first 11 in the Cup Final and they had Stephen McPhail in the team. If I wasn't an Everton fan then I think it's highly unlikely I'd pick us over Utd or Arsenal, but here's hoping.

[jofanon 232]

The Arsenal bit is probably spot on and the Man Utd bit MAY be true, but you have to remember Utd were the team who famously won the league with kids (as Alan Hansen put it). They have a history of playing their young players (Rooney, Giggs etc) and even the likes of Nani got a fair few games last season. I expect Everton to make a couple of signings in midfield as well as Ramsey even if we sign him, I wouldn't guarantee him a spot in our team either, he couldn't even get in the Cardiff first 11 in the Cup Final and they had Stephen McPhail in the team. If I wasn't an Everton fan then I think it's highly unlikely I'd pick us over Utd or Arsenal, but here's hoping.

I don't know why he is going to be an automatic first team starter?

 

I haven't seen him play but he doesn't sound like he's a defensive midfielder so where does he fit in?

 

Does he usurp Arteta, Peanuts or Cahill? I very much doubt it. And if Fernandes starts then it even more unlikely.

[aaron 811]

thing is we havent got fernandes. anymore. yet.

[carlmc25 0]

I don't know why he is going to be an automatic first team starter?

 

I haven't seen him play but he doesn't sound like he's a defensive midfielder so where does he fit in?

 

Does he usurp Arteta, Peanuts or Cahill? I very much doubt it. And if Fernandes starts then it even more unlikely.

I said I didn't think he would be an automatic starter? you must have misread my post! I'm not sure whether I want us to sign this guy or not, seems like a lot of money for a player who is unlikely to make an impact next season, especially when we desperately need 2 or 3 quality players (at least) in midfield already.

[aaron 811]

for all we know this could be one of the "quality" midfeilders we are after. He could turn out to be what he has been called - the next ryan giggs. Now would you like to look back in a few years and say "if only we signed him" or would you take the risk in which manure and arsenal (who everyone knows sign quality youngsters who mostly go onto to a good career)?

 

I know what i'd do. I would sign this lad. I know we dont have all the resources in the world but i think this lad will be the muts nuts. He is close to the top of the list of players i would like to see at everton.

[jofanon 232]

for all we know this could be one of the "quality" midfeilders we are after. He could turn out to be what he has been called - the next ryan giggs. Now would you like to look back in a few years and say "if only we signed him" or would you take the risk in which manure and arsenal (who everyone knows sign quality youngsters who mostly go onto to a good career)?

 

I know what i'd do. I would sign this lad. I know we dont have all the resources in the world but i think this lad will be the muts nuts. He is close to the top of the list of players i would like to see at everton.

Have you seen him play?

 

I've got no idea what our budget is this year but I would be surprised if it was more than £20m.

 

A quarter of that on an unproven young player, in a position we don't need filling seems a lot.

 

But I trust Moyes. He has done the business the last couple of years. What do I know!?!

[MikeO 12,973]

Headline on the BBC site says he's joined Arsenal.

 

 

Confirmed on Cardiff's OS. ManU losing out after claiming it was a done deal compensates a little for us missing out .

[Everton_Worshiper 0]

lol yeah, it is all going wrong for Manure with transfers and it makes good viewing!

[Romey 1878 13,611]

The Ramsey bid was probably nothing more than a "Look, look we're trying bid" knowing there would be no chance of us having to pay the money because he'd choose one of the other teams. Whether the trying was being shown to us or Mr. David Moyes is another thing entirely.

[carlmc25 0]

The Ramsey bid was probably nothing more than a "Look, look we're trying bid" knowing there would be no chance of us having to pay the money because he'd choose one of the other teams. Whether the trying was being shown to us or Mr. David Moyes is another thing entirely.

Cynical, but quite possibly correct! Wouldn't be the first time but HOPEFULLY we've moved on from those days...

[scouse 50]

Has he actually signed for them or just stated it would be his prefered choice?

[zequist 47]

Can't blame him for that choice. Arsenal has a really good track record with developing young players.