Romey 1878 Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Ossie looks a bit happy in that! Great picture. He seems to have taken his role as cheerleader very seriously. Fair play to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Love ossie I do. Impossible not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I think a few good strikers would get a good return in this side given an extended run as lone striker. We are set up for strikers to flourish. WHAT!........The pundits at the Chelsea game were saying before Lukakus first goal he wasn't getting decent service, in fact we were showing signs of sideways/backwards football that Martinez is so good at. " set up for strikers to flourish" your having a laugh! last season and chuncks of this some of the service to Lukaku has been criminal. We are improving, but half of gerrys crosses don't beat the first man, Mirallas can be greedy (if he ever gets a game), Barkley goes to pieces if there are two options open, we play the ball down the wings to the edge of the penalty area then play back to the half way line again and we struggle to get decent corners in. Lukaku must wonder what the fucks going on some days........saying that the lads done good........"in a team set up for strikers to flourish" :dont know: If Barkley improves his final ball, the wingers get the crosses in, and we stop going sideways.........oh, and Lukaku actually strikes his penalties correctly, well he's going to be a 30 goal a season man, every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 His shot accuracy of 58% says that he is getting chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 His shot accuracy of 58% says that he is getting chances. Yep the reality is he gets lots of the ball. Too many people equate chances with sub 18 yard finishes. In this day and age they come far and few. He made his first goal on his own yesterday. More of that stuff please Rom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Don't like the sound of this. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/13/everton-roberto-martinez-romelu-lukaku-chelsea-guus-hiddink-diego-costa Interestingly, just when Roberto needs to answer with some of his usual, misleading, vacuous gasbaggery, he comes out with an honest assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 His shot accuracy of 58% says that he is getting chances. What's shot accuracy got to do with well created chances from his team mates.! There's no relationship between how many shots you have, on or off target and how many chances have been created for you. Baines may have a shot accuracy of 70%, so he can run with the ball, beat a couple of players and get his sot on target.Doesn't mean his team mates are creating chances for him. Before Roms 'wonder' goal the thoughts of the 'pundits' was that his service was poor, and that the sideways, backwards passing style that Martinez favours doesn't really do much for a striker trying to find space and make runs. As a striker you can make a run with the ball advancing nicely down the wing or even through the middle, to find a second or two latter it's back with Jags !! Before Rom took it on himself to 'have a go', what had we created during the match ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Well, to be honest Blue, that was the thought of Martin Keown on the day, who didn't stop banging on about it all game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ....Rom's 2nd out of all players in the PL for shots by the way. He certainly doesn't lack service!!! EFC-Paul and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I think a few good strikers would get a good return in this side given an extended run as lone striker. We are set up for strikers to flourish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ....Rom's 2nd out of all players in the PL for shots by the way. He certainly doesn't lack service!!! Exactly. If people keep saying lack of service then people believe it. Unless he is taking shots from 35 yards all the time which he doesn't then he receives the ball in positions to shoot... which is a chance for a striker and he has had the second most. Therefore he gets very good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/10204609/romelu-lukaku-not-thinking-about-move-away-from-everton Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 What's shot accuracy got to do with well created chances from his team mates.! There's no relationship between how many shots you have, on or off target and how many chances have been created for you. Baines may have a shot accuracy of 70%, so he can run with the ball, beat a couple of players and get his sot on target.Doesn't mean his team mates are creating chances for him. Before Roms 'wonder' goal the thoughts of the 'pundits' was that his service was poor, and that the sideways, backwards passing style that Martinez favours doesn't really do much for a striker trying to find space and make runs. As a striker you can make a run with the ball advancing nicely down the wing or even through the middle, to find a second or two latter it's back with Jags !! Before Rom took it on himself to 'have a go', what had we created during the match ? If you don't get any chances your shot accuracy is 100% Not arguing, just pointing out that he has a hat full of goals this season with only 57% shot accuracy, suggesting that he must be getting the chances. Not saying that they are all created for him either. But shot accuracy doesn't include chances made for you that you didn't manage to get an effort off. Compared to most teams in the league we actually have a high chances per game stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Every time I read this thread I come away from it thinking people are weird. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Every time I read this thread I come away from it thinking people are weird. I'll openly admit to being weird. By the way, I'm not in anyway having a dig at Rom...he'll more than do for me...just don't get this service thing that repeatedly pops up. Even when it's disproven. That's really weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ok.... my initial point was that I believe many "good" strikers would score a good number of goals 20+ in our set up with a lone striker as the focal point. The argument is that Rom doesn't get service. So for me the clearest indication of service is the strikers ability to have a shot on goal - this of course doesn't account for any Deulofeu sizzlers across the 6 yard box that go untouched, but anyhow lets have a look at how Rom fares against other players in the league in terms of shots per game and where they are taken from. 1. Kane - 123 shots - 68% in penalty area 2. Lukaku - 99 shots - 75% in penalty area 3. Vardy - 95 shots - 82% in penalty area 4. Ighalo - 93 shots - 87% in penalty area 5. Aguero - 90 shots - 78% in penalty area 6. Barkley - 84 shots - 38% in penalty area It is very fair to say that Rom does indeed get good service compared to his fellow top scorers. Rom has more goals in the 6 yard box than any other player here.... he has 5 vs Kane's 2 and Vardys 1. I'm not diluting what Rom has achieved - i'm highlighting the facts vs this opinion that he doesn't get service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 ok.... my initial point was that I believe many "good" strikers would score a good number of goals 20+ in our set up with a lone striker as the focal point. The argument is that Rom doesn't get service. So for me the clearest indication of service is the strikers ability to have a shot on goal - this of course doesn't account for any Deulofeu sizzlers across the 6 yard box that go untouched, but anyhow lets have a look at how Rom fares against other players in the league in terms of shots per game and where they are taken from. 1. Kane - 123 shots - 68% in penalty area 2. Lukaku - 99 shots - 75% in penalty area 3. Vardy - 95 shots - 82% in penalty area 4. Ighalo - 93 shots - 87% in penalty area 5. Aguero - 90 shots - 78% in penalty area 6. Barkley - 84 shots - 38% in penalty area It is very fair to say that Rom does indeed get good service compared to his fellow top scorers. Rom has more goals in the 6 yard box than any other player here.... he has 5 vs Kane's 2 and Vardys 1. I'm not diluting what Rom has achieved - i'm highlighting the facts vs this opinion that he doesn't get service. No no Kane's a one season wonder remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 No no Kane's a one season wonder rememberHe's got the best midfield in the league behind him, yet relies on pens for half his goals. 25% more shots than anyone, conversion rate must be piss poor. Last season he played on confidence much like Vardy this year. Everything he got went in. Not got the talent to consistently put it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 He's got the best midfield in the league behind him, yet relies on pens for half his goals. 25% more shots than anyone, conversion rate must be piss poor. Last season he played on confidence much like Vardy this year. Everything he got went in. Not got the talent to consistently put it away. Numbers don't lie. he's certainly not a one season wonder which was suggested with 17 games played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Numbers don't lie. he's certainly not a one season wonder which was suggested with 17 games played.He's not scored enough considering the team he is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) He's got the best midfield in the league behind him, yet relies on pens for half his goals. 25% more shots than anyone, conversion rate must be piss poor. Last season he played on confidence much like Vardy this year. Everything he got went in. Not got the talent to consistently put it away. I completely disagree as I have said many many many times - he is a boringly effective player. He will always score goals because he has the bottle and mental toughness to work hard and keep looking for the ball. To get where he is on lesser "natural" ability compared to others is a credit to him. Many a player would have doubted themselves after his poor start and many on here said "I told you so" - I said he would come good and he has. He has a good shot with either foot (hence the number outside the box), strong, good in the air and is an intelligent runner. One of those players that will be slated because he's not "good to watch" - he isn't good to mark, John Terry rated him as the toughest opponent he had to mark last year. Edited March 14, 2016 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 He's not scored enough considering the team he is in. what I like about him is that he would agree with that statement. Thats why he is a very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I completely disagree as I have said many many many times - he is a boringly effective player. He will always score goals because he has the bottle and mental toughness to work hard and keep looking for the ball. To get where he is on lesser "natural" ability compared to others is a credit to him. Many a player would have doubted themselves after his poor start and many on here said "I told you so" - I said he would come good and he has. He has a good shot with either foot (hence the number outside the box), strong, good in the air and is an intelligent runner. One of those players that will be slated because he's not "good to watch" - he isn't good to mark, John Terry rated him as the toughest opponent he had to mark last year. the english thomas muller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 the english thomas muller actually reminds me of Miroslav Klose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Numbers don't lie. he's certainly not a one season wonder which was suggested with 17 games played. I would agree, and his goal against Arsenal revealed a lot about his abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I completely disagree as I have said many many many times - he is a boringly effective player. He will always score goals because he has the bottle and mental toughness to work hard and keep looking for the ball. To get where he is on lesser "natural" ability compared to others is a credit to him. Many a player would have doubted themselves after his poor start and many on here said "I told you so" - I said he would come good and he has. He has a good shot with either foot (hence the number outside the box), strong, good in the air and is an intelligent runner. One of those players that will be slated because he's not "good to watch" - he isn't good to mark, John Terry rated him as the toughest opponent he had to mark last year. I'm surprised he doesn't annoy you. Lukaku doesn't get on Deulofeu's zipped crosses has everyone pulling their hair out. Spurs make space for Kane and he follows the defender rather than exploit the gap. He's not a natural finisher so misses one on ones more often than not. My main bugbear is the long shots, Steven Gerrard-like, you hit that many eventually one will go in. I'd compare him more to Shane Long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm surprised he doesn't annoy you. Lukaku doesn't get on Deulofeu's zipped crosses has everyone pulling their hair out. Spurs make space for Kane and he follows the defender rather than exploit the gap. He's not a natural finisher so misses one on ones more often than not. My main bugbear is the long shots, Steven Gerrard-like, you hit that many eventually one will go in. I'd compare him more to Shane Long. Premier League goals since the beginning of last season: Sergio Aguero – 42 Harry Kane – 40 Diego Costa – 31 Romelu Lukaku – 28 Olivier Giroud – 26 Jamie Vardy – 24 Alexis Sanchez – 23 Christian Benteke – 20 Graziano Pelle – 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Still wouldn't swap Rom for anyone other than Aguerro though....even then I would think twice. Like Newty, I'm not diluting Roms achievments at all, just dispelling the no chance theory. He can only get EVEN better. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Premier League goals since the beginning of last season: Sergio Aguero 42 Harry Kane 40 Diego Costa 31 Romelu Lukaku 28 Olivier Giroud 26 Jamie Vardy 24 Alexis Sanchez 23 Christian Benteke 20 Graziano Pelle 20 Kane and Lukaku still a long way off Aguero though. Look at goals to minutes ratio. Aguero is just always injured markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Kane and Lukaku still a long way off Aguero though. Look at goals to minutes ratio. Aguero is just always injured exactly why i wouldn't swap ROm for him. He plays half a season at most, you need another #1 striker just to spell him so much he's injured all the time. lukaku for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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