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27 minutes ago, pete0 said:

"I don't understand how I, an American who was born in 1977 in Philadelphia, could own a football club that was born in the middle 1800s in Wrexham, Wales. It doesn't make any sense.

"The way that I approach is that we are stewards of the club. I like the title chairman much better than I like the title owner because I truly can't own that. The town owns that.

"Our job is to come in as chairmen and to help facilitate the success so that the town can continue to flourish, the team can continue to flourish, and they can have success long after we're gone and there are new chair people that take over."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57047602?at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom3=Match+of+the+Day&at_custom4=EA08481E-B14E-11EB-B3A8-41B8923C408C&fbclid=IwAR17bYUlY4jqBWQbPisyd_KPtn0yA2mlSCMaYEGvWfncuTr6kQRQ8O9P0gw

 

Definitely making the right noises there, hope it goes well.

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Definitely making the right noises there, hope it goes well.

As someone who spent a year or two living in Wrexham I'm made up with what has happened to them, they seem to have two great owners and could hopefully be heading in the right direction up the leagues.

If only the Glazers, Kroenke, Levy etc had the same mentality. Or those that oversaw the burning of Portsmouth, Charlton, Bury etc.

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2 hours ago, pete0 said:

"I don't understand how I, an American who was born in 1977 in Philadelphia, could own a football club that was born in the middle 1800s in Wrexham, Wales. It doesn't make any sense.

"The way that I approach is that we are stewards of the club. I like the title chairman much better than I like the title owner because I truly can't own that. The town owns that.

"Our job is to come in as chairmen and to help facilitate the success so that the town can continue to flourish, the team can continue to flourish, and they can have success long after we're gone and there are new chair people that take over."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57047602?at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom3=Match+of+the+Day&at_custom4=EA08481E-B14E-11EB-B3A8-41B8923C408C&fbclid=IwAR17bYUlY4jqBWQbPisyd_KPtn0yA2mlSCMaYEGvWfncuTr6kQRQ8O9P0gw

 

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is one of my all time favorite shows. Love this guy. 

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3 hours ago, Bailey said:

They are right. I have no idea how it is fair that parachute payments are given, it just increases the likelihood that whoever drops down comes right back up.

Teams who come up will have higher runnings costs than they're used to, especially with players coming in on higher wages and I'd imagine a nice boost for their players that brought them up too. Parachute is a nice safety net to stop the teams coming up and not spending to compete as they'll be scared of the financial burden if they go down. 

Without the parachute payments the prem teams would be able to raid the best players from the relegated teams more easily, which would further the gap even more.

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21 hours ago, pete0 said:

Teams who come up will have higher runnings costs than they're used to, especially with players coming in on higher wages and I'd imagine a nice boost for their players that brought them up too. Parachute is a nice safety net to stop the teams coming up and not spending to compete as they'll be scared of the financial burden if they go down. 

Without the parachute payments the prem teams would be able to raid the best players from the relegated teams more easily, which would further the gap even more.

They may have to pay higher wages but they get a lot more in prize money and tv money. I also imagine they get increased commercial deals as well. 

Plenty of sides have shown that you can stay in the league on a budget. The teams that are well managed on and off the field the best should be encouraged and not ones that gamble on staying in the league. 

A much more sustainable model would be to spread the money more evenly across both leagues (and below). If there wasn't as much disparity, parachute payments wouldn't be needed. Less money in the top flight would also help keep a lid on wages and transfer fees too, also helping clubs being promoted to compete. 

The Premier League is becoming a version of the ESL with very few teams actually being able to make it. Next year two of the relegated sides will be straight back and there is a chance either Swansea (relegated 3 seasons ago?) or Bournemouth (last season) will follow them. I hope it will be Brentford who are a well run club (by all accounts) who keep losing out to the relegated sides and yet still have their best players poached. Why should Brentford's be poached and the likes of Norwich/Watford/Bournemouth be financially supported by the league to not have theirs poached? 

It isn't fair on the leagues below and I am surprised that given your political leanings that you appear to be in favour of it.

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

It isn't fair on the leagues below and I am surprised that given your political leanings that you appear to be in favour of it.

I've not said I favour it. Just pointing out a reason why the system may the way it is.

Personally think there's too much money in football (but at least the players get their fair share unlike most other employments).

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On 15/05/2021 at 18:16, pete0 said:

I've not said I favour it. Just pointing out a reason why the system may the way it is.

Personally think there's too much money in football (but at least the players get their fair share unlike most other employments).

Fair enough, thought you were agreeing with it.

I doubt anything will change!

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

What a farce, potentially boxing's biggest fight in decades and the WBC wants to scupper it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57151854

Just an insane system in the sport, I think I read earlier that there have only been six "undisputed" champions over all weights in the last forty years. 

American judge makes a decision that will more than likely lead to an American boxer receiving a massive payment to go away and let this fight happen… interesting 🤔

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20 hours ago, MikeO said:

What a farce, potentially boxing's biggest fight in decades and the WBC wants to scupper it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57151854

Just an insane system in the sport, I think I read earlier that there have only been six "undisputed" champions over all weights in the last forty years. 

That is madness.

It is also probably part of the reason we get so many crap PPV events. If the big guns aren't fighting each other enough they have to wheel out the Chisoras and Bellews of the sport to make their money.

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More superbly constructed comment from a BBC journo.

"The hosts opening pair put on 135 for the opening wicket but the youngsters of Ethan Bamber, Martin Andersson and Blake Cullen to force a collapse under leaden skies."

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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/GB1

Just looking at the players out of contract this summer. 

Goalkeeper. Any of them. They won't be expected to play and saves wasting any of the transfer budget.

Left back. Not a massive fan of Schlupp but he could be worth a punt if he's happy to be a squad player. There's also Allioski of Leeds.

Centre half. Sakho, plenty of talent, only issue is getting him on the pitch. Wouldn't mind Cahill just for his experience to help in training. 

Right back. Clyne. 

Right wing. Gudmundsson. Solid player in the ilk of Kevin Kilbane. Although I'd rather we throw a chunk of the budget at Norwich for Buendia. 

Centre mid. McCarthy, nostalgia. 

Left mid. Brady, quality player when fit but too slow given we need to inject some pace in the midfield. 

Striker. Aguero... We can dream. Think Carroll is worth a punt, big target man that DCL could work off in a 442. 

 

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5 hours ago, pete0 said:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/GB1

Just looking at the players out of contract this summer. 

Goalkeeper. Any of them. They won't be expected to play and saves wasting any of the transfer budget.

Left back. Not a massive fan of Schlupp but he could be worth a punt if he's happy to be a squad player. There's also Allioski of Leeds.

Centre half. Sakho, plenty of talent, only issue is getting him on the pitch. Wouldn't mind Cahill just for his experience to help in training. 

Right back. Clyne. 

Right wing. Gudmundsson. Solid player in the ilk of Kevin Kilbane. Although I'd rather we throw a chunk of the budget at Norwich for Buendia. 

Centre mid. McCarthy, nostalgia. 

Left mid. Brady, quality player when fit but too slow given we need to inject some pace in the midfield. 

Striker. Aguero... We can dream. Think Carroll is worth a punt, big target man that DCL could work off in a 442. 

 

And everyone one lived happily ever after 😂

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17 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Villa agree a fee of £30m for Buendia. Another club doing things right in terms of recruitment.

The manager fiasco is likely throwing everything into turmoil. Because we're now having to pivot to focus so much on that, player recruitment will be pushed back, which means we will either miss out on players or that they will arrive later and will take longer to get acclimated

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1 minute ago, dunlopp9987 said:

The manager fiasco is likely throwing everything into turmoil. Because we're now having to pivot to focus so much on that, player recruitment will be pushed back, which means we will either miss out on players or that they will arrive later and will take longer to get acclimated

Ancelotti has really fucked us over.

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6 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

The manager fiasco is likely throwing everything into turmoil. Because we're now having to pivot to focus so much on that, player recruitment will be pushed back, which means we will either miss out on players or that they will arrive later and will take longer to get acclimated

Aclimatised! We're not in America you know....except...you are...so we are a bit:unsure:. Anyway, try to be more English in future:shakingfist:

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47 minutes ago, Btay said:

Massively. And it’s surely thrown doubt into any neutrals mind about the Everton project. 

The damage he has done is going to be felt for a while, and in lots of ways. It's why I'm so angry about it all.

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9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

The damage he has done is going to be felt for a while, and in lots of ways. It's why I'm so angry about it all.

It could potentially be used as fuel for success with the right manager. 

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3 minutes ago, Matt said:

It could potentially be used as fuel for success with the right manager. 

What I mean is that we'll have been already making transfer plans with Carlo and know the direction we were heading. Now any transfer plans are having to go on the backburner while we search for a new manager, so we're going to be behind on that score when we can't really afford to be. This search could go on for a while and the whole direction we thought we'd be heading may need to pivot in a big way as well.

We already had a lot of catching up to do and now the rinse and repeat soundbite of "this is a season of building, I'm not expecting much" will be here once again.

I hope it is fuel for success with the right manager but Carlo has fucked us in more ways than just jumping ship. I'm not really bothered about losing him, it's all the other shit that's going to come because of it.

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5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

What I mean is that we'll have been already making transfer plans with Carlo and know the direction we were heading. Now any transfer plans are having to go on the backburner while we search for a new manager, so we're going to be behind on that score when we can't really afford to be. This search could go on for a while and the whole direction we thought we'd be heading may need to pivot in a big way as well.

We already had a lot of catching up to do and now the rinse and repeat soundbite of "this is a season of building, I'm not expecting much" will be here once again.

I hope it is fuel for success with the right manager but Carlo has fucked us in more ways than just jumping ship. I'm not really bothered about losing him, it's all the other shit that's going to come because of it.

Wasn't disagreeing at all mate. Was just that if the right manager comes in, he could use this to motivate 

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6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

We already had a lot of catching up to do and now the rinse and repeat soundbite of "this is a season of building, I'm not expecting much" will be here once again

This deserves 100 likes.  It’s infuriating the constant rebuilding and tearing down of the squad.  Different formations and tactics.  

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

This deserves 100 likes.  It’s infuriating the constant rebuilding and tearing down of the squad.  Different formations and tactics.  

You have to build something before you can tear it down, what have we built in the last couple of decades. 

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6 hours ago, Matt said:

Wasn't disagreeing at all mate. Was just that if the right manager comes in, he could use this to motivate 

But who is the right manager? I really can't come up with one. 1. They have to understand us as a club 2. to sort out the sh1t show 3. is a motivator we need.

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8 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Chelsea are believed to be in talks to sign Haaland for £154 million, and Pep wants both Kane and Grealish, how can any other team’s complete with that buying power. 

And people worry about us and FFP. FFP was and is nothing more than a catchphrase for a failed experiment, and doesn't deserve the attention it gets. 

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24 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

wolves sign Bruno Lage as manager.  looking at him on wikipedia he's managed benfica for 1 year that's it for being first team manager.  anyone know anything on this guy?  is he a jorge mendes guy or something?

Had to wiki him myself, not a clue.

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9 minutes ago, MikeO said:

All good news. Still have to wonder whether he'll be able to play again, I guess they'll have to find out what caused it before that decision can be made.

Not sure if true, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the decision might be taken out of his hands. The English FA may step in and refuse to accept his registration (if he came back to an English club) on medical grounds. 

It's not something that happens often (thankfully) so not sure how true but would make sense. When something as extreme as this happens it's probably for the best that he calls it a day, as frustrating as that may be for him personally.

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29 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Not sure if true, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the decision might be taken out of his hands. The English FA may step in and refuse to accept his registration (if he came back to an English club) on medical grounds. 

It's not something that happens often (thankfully) so not sure how true but would make sense. When something as extreme as this happens it's probably for the best that he calls it a day, as frustrating as that may be for him personally.

That's how I'm leaning. Imagine being a family or team member, you'd be constantly terrified watching him play.

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When I played, about half a dozen times in a season, I used to get fairly major heart palpitations during a game. Fortunately, it never happened during a crucial stage of play as I was unable to move for several seconds.  I never went to see a doc as I didn't want to be stopped from playing.  

That's probably connected to the atrial fibrilation that I have had for the last 20 years.  I used to get about a dozen incidents per year (heart going at 230 per minute on one of the occasions I was in hospital).  Saw a new specialist about 18 months ago and he changed my medication.  Haven't had a single incident since!

Hope the lad pulls through OK but fear it is the end of his playing career.

 

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