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1 minute ago, Hafnia said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64612850
 

I don’t think it’s incompetence, I think they are blatantly creating results to keep title/relegation battles as long winded and as close as they can.  I thought this after the Man City handball vs us, as Everton in a relegation battle would be a huge interest.

you watch tomorrow, var will do us us big time. They want Liverpool in the hunt for Europe and for us to be last day relegation/survival candidates. 

They said they "forgot" to draw the lines for offside... what the actual fuck?! Lies.

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Just now, Romey 1878 said:

They said they "forgot" to draw the lines for offside... what the actual fuck?! Lies.

Just a bunch of pricks the lot of them. I reckon I could identify a ref in civilian clothes, just like I could identify a Tory MP.  The have that same “I’m incompetent as fuck and couldn’t make it in the real world but I’ve found a job that gives me power with a required arrogance to dismiss any failings or corruption associated with me.” Look on their face.

I mean let’s take Matt Hancock, looks the perfect referee doesn’t he? From his “I’m not going bald honest” haircut to his “I’m technically fit but you know I toe poke the ball” gait. 
 

bellends the lot of them. 

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

I look forward to the day when people don't have to 'come out'. Whether that be in sport or to your family.

You should just be able to have a partner and not have to explain yourself first, or hide yourself if you can't.

While we have monolithic religious insitutions and strict social conservatism in many countries round the world, and unreconstructed jocks in changing rooms and on the terraces, that day may be a long way off. But things have changed, certainly from my childhood when the arts / music was the only safe-ish space.  

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On 15/02/2023 at 13:32, MikeO said:

Tiger Woods worry on his latest comeback says his biggest problem is "walking 72 holes over four days".

I don't think he needs to worry about that too much.

Meanwhile the fact remains that his biggest worry ought to be what a total dickhead he is.

Checks equipment, "....balls, tees, pencil, tampon".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/64673771

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4 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Meanwhile the fact remains that his biggest worry ought to be what a total dickhead he is.

Checks equipment, "....balls, tees, pencil, tampon".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/64673771

The fact that people are in uproar about it says everything about the stats of the world right now. An immature joke.  People need to just press on. 

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5 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

The fact that people are in uproar about it says everything about the stats of the world right now. An immature joke.  People need to just press on. 

An immature (I'd say infantile) misogynistic "joke" by a middle aged man with a huge responsibility due to his fame, completely pathetic and I can't believe you're taking it so lightly. Would you do it?

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33 minutes ago, MikeO said:

An immature (I'd say infantile) misogynistic "joke" by a middle aged man with a huge responsibility due to his fame, completely pathetic and I can't believe you're taking it so lightly. Would you do it?

I’m struggling to find a reason to be offended by it in the way others are trying to manufacture the outrage. 
 

These are 2 men who rejected absolute fortunes - in particular Woods who turned down $700m+ to play golf for an organisation because of their atrocious human rights record particularly towards women. 
 

is it tasteless immature etc? Yeah but the reaction to it in the media is absolutely ridiculous. He didn’t brandish it, it wasn’t meant to be seen.     Either way it requires nothing more than a brief apology and move on. 
 

liv tour apologists will no doubt double down on this opportunity no doubt completely forgetting the abhorrent treatment women in its funding country receive. 

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14 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I’m struggling to find a reason to be offended by it in the way others are trying to manufacture the outrage. 
 

These are 2 men who rejected absolute fortunes - in particular Woods who turned down $700m+ to play golf for an organisation because of their atrocious human rights record particularly towards women. 
 

is it tasteless immature etc? Yeah but the reaction to it in the media is absolutely ridiculous. He didn’t brandish it, it wasn’t meant to be seen.     Either way it requires nothing more than a brief apology and move on. 
 

liv tour apologists will no doubt double down on this opportunity no doubt completely forgetting the abhorrent treatment women in its funding country receive. 

Because with the media of the world on his every move it was always going to be between the two of them wasn't it?

Add to that the pre-meditation, acquiring a tampon (maybe from his daughter) to take on to the course with him just in case he managed to out-drive someone; he's saying "you play like a girl" which infers that women are inferior.

What in the hell does LIV have to do with it? Red herring. You didn't answer as to whether you'd do it incidentally.

Not just a spur of the moment bit of banter, a totally thought out and planned act of stupidity; and given his history with women he should know better by now.

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25 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Because with the media of the world on his every move it was always going to be between the two of them wasn't it?

Add to that the pre-meditation, acquiring a tampon (maybe from his daughter) to take on to the course with him just in case he managed to out-drive someone; he's saying "you play like a girl" which infers that women are inferior.

What in the hell does LIV have to do with it? Red herring. You didn't answer as to whether you'd do it incidentally.

Not just a spur of the moment bit of banter, a totally thought out and planned act of stupidity; and given his history with women he should know better by now.

Would I do it? Never thought of it. But I’ve never played in a round of golf where if a player doesn’t hit past the womans tee you don’t get the quip “kex down on next shot”

I honestly think it’s a complete overreaction which could have been met with a “grow up lads” -  simple as that. 

the liv tour is a valid point. Woods and Thomas rejected the cash that a good few virtue signalling millionaires decided to take cos it’s good for their families….. yet here we are talking about a zoom lens picking up on a joke between two mates.

Is it ideal? No. But ffs the reaction is beyond ridiculous. 
 

I guess the next thing to be banned will be brides veils with condoms and L plates stuck on with the mandatory blow up male doll. 

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5 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Would I do it? Never thought of it. But I’ve never played in a round of golf where if a player doesn’t hit past the womans tee you don’t get the quip “kex down on next shot”

I honestly think it’s a complete overreaction which could have been met with a “grow up lads” -  simple as that. 

the liv tour is a valid point. Woods and Thomas rejected the cash that a good few virtue signalling millionaires decided to take cos it’s good for their families….. yet here we are talking about a zoom lens picking up on a joke between two mates.

Is it ideal? No. But ffs the reaction is beyond ridiculous. 

Disappointed.

LIV is totally irrelevant, what would the difference have been had they been playing under a different banner? Fuck all.

What has them rejecting cash, when they already have more than they could spend in a hundred lifetimes, got to do with anything? 

A zoom lens picking up a "private joke" with how many millions watching forensically, yep; was never going to come out was it.

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42 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Disappointed.

LIV is totally irrelevant, what would the difference have been had they been playing under a different banner? Fuck all.

What has them rejecting cash, when they already have more than they could spend in a hundred lifetimes, got to do with anything? 

A zoom lens picking up a "private joke" with how many millions watching forensically, yep; was never going to come out was it.

He’s apologised. Like I said he would, like I said it probably deserved.  My point is the outrage was absolutely ridiculous, Sarah Stirk calling it out - will she voice her opinion on the golfers who have gone to the liv tour to enable sports washing? 

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Comedians of both sexes constantly make gender jokes and they are never get questioned because of the so called comedic licence. Personally I think Woods made an error of judgement in trying to have a bit of banter with a friend on a competitive level in such a public space, it carried no malicious message it was a bit of fun unwisely delivered at the wrong time in the wrong place. Do I think there has been an over reaction in some quarters yes, do I understand why in some quarters the reaction has been outrage yes I do. 
Woods as apologised since, but some people rightly will be questioning his integrity and mentality and state of mind, to do something like that in the full glare of the media and most of the world, some will want to take it further and try to make sure maximum punishment is delivered, which is fine that's their choice, but what we have to careful about is not letting personal prejudices get in the way of the reality of what happened and why. My personal view is what a dick you fucked up big time, it was a silly joke in bad taste maybe as jokes go, but definitely in the wrong place. He has apologised and I hope he's learnt his lesson and we move on, and those who were most affected accept his apology and recognise it wasn't a malicious act, it was joke that went disastrously wrong. 

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4 hours ago, Palfy said:

Comedians of both sexes constantly make gender jokes and they are never get questioned because of the so called comedic licence. Personally I think Woods made an error of judgement in trying to have a bit of banter with a friend on a competitive level in such a public space, it carried no malicious message it was a bit of fun unwisely delivered at the wrong time in the wrong place. Do I think there has been an over reaction in some quarters yes, do I understand why in some quarters the reaction has been outrage yes I do. 
Woods as apologised since, but some people rightly will be questioning his integrity and mentality and state of mind, to do something like that in the full glare of the media and most of the world, some will want to take it further and try to make sure maximum punishment is delivered, which is fine that's their choice, but what we have to careful about is not letting personal prejudices get in the way of the reality of what happened and why. My personal view is what a dick you fucked up big time, it was a silly joke in bad taste maybe as jokes go, but definitely in the wrong place. He has apologised and I hope he's learnt his lesson and we move on, and those who were most affected accept his apology and recognise it wasn't a malicious act, it was joke that went disastrously wrong. 

It’s more a case now that things that tiger woods has done is creating hysteria….. yet Sam Smith dresses up as a giant inflatable black cock on TV and continues to mischievously play on the whole gender neutral bandwagon that is rolling out of control. All because he loves attention and he is playing with fire.

he thinks he’s a role model - is he fuck. David Bowie was a leader in that regard. He embraced the liberty to be who he wanted to be when people were scared to admit their sexual preference.   He didn’t find the need to change the word fisherman to fisher them… he just had the courage to wear what he wanted and sleep with who he wanted. 
 

Yet here we are in a world where Sam Smith can be offended by the use of the word “man” but happily offend religions on stage. 
 

it’s getting ridiculous. 

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

Way more money is needed to the elite, more like.

Slight correction. Its laying foundations for the greed league. Show that more games equal more money and that'll turn heads at governments let alone the football industry.

There's a special layer of hell for FIFA and UEFA. 

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Watching Bundesliga highlights from the weekend. Ref books the same Leverkusen player on two separate occasions for simulation in the box. Both times he's called to look at VAR, determines that they actually were penalties and rescinds the cards to the Leverkusen player. On two separate occasions.

No ego from the ref or his VAR counterparts, they're trying to make the right decisions. 

This is what is so royally fucked up with VAR in England. The referees union is so intent on standing by each other that they're unwilling to even have someone go look at VAR because they're afraid of undermining each other. 

Makes me so angry.

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