GoldfishMemory Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Just picked this up from icliverpool just more papertalk but its another possibility and Kirkby golf course is accessable quite easily from all over Liverpool. I keep hearing this figure of 50,000 capacity and i think we should be aiming a little higher than that unless of course the structure is designed to be easily expanded. http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400eve...-name_page.html What does everyone think about our proposed stadium move and the shambolic way it has been managed so far. Another little food for thought is why we were denied permission to build on stanley park but the shite have been granted permission, anyone know how that came about? P.S. Someone tell me how to save links as one word cos i dont know and i feel all left out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 the whole stadium fiasco sums up the way Everton are run tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFCfanatic Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 the whole stadium fiasco sums up the way Everton are run tbh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> true story thinking of that when is the new training ground/academy supposed to be ready??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) Goldy said........................... I keep hearing this figure of 50,000 capacity and i think we should be aiming a little higher than that unless of course the structure is designed to be easily expanded. .................................. I am in complete agreement with you, RS have applied for a 60.000 stadium so i think we must at least match that, or go for 61.000 and show everybody that we still are the biggest club on merseyside. We must not play second fiddle to them. A bigger stadium will get the concerts, cup semi finals, and international games amongst lots of other things, so lets go for it. We are a big club, lets hope the people in the Boardroom havent forgotten. Licker. Edited May 31, 2006 by toffeelicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 the stadium will eventually, (when its paid for) be our biggest source of income. i think its important to take a longer term view of the possible growth in attendances. i dont think that 50,000 is big enough. i would guess that 80,000 would be a better capacity from an economic and profit pov. i dont know what the costs compared to income is but 50,000 seems quite low compared to NEW stadium sizes today. i think arsenal have about 68,000 capacity at their new stadium! but its reasonable to expect crowds to get bigger over the next 20 - 30 years and we should be looking that far ahead at least. the future of the club is related to its income and its income will be dreived from its gates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i agree we need a bigger seating capacity then 50,000 i think more in the region of 70,000 but would it be sold out every week? hopefully this 'new' stadium will have more then 50,000 seats but is compact to keep the atmosphere in, cant imagine a Everton match with a shit atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The problem is, we only sold out our current 40,000 seater stadium twice last season Do you really think we could sell out 60 + seater stadium Our season ticket sales have plumeted this year and I think in the not so distant future the arse will fall out of football as the average joe cant afford it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 bigger stadium though zed will attract more supporteres, bigger stadiums also attract bigger players, as someone said we will then get concerts, cup ties being played here etc. we need to aim big if we want to push up and become a big team again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 There are whispers that BK has found a mystery investor to be on the board, and thats why were spending quite a bit in the transfer market and seriously considering a new stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted May 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The problem is, we only sold out our current 40,000 seater stadium twice last season Do you really think we could sell out 60 + seater stadium Our season ticket sales have plumeted this year and I think in the not so distant future the arse will fall out of football as the average joe cant afford it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So build a 70,000 seater and reduce all prices to attract people in and fill it! Average gate is what 37,000? double that and ticket prices could be halved the question being could we fill the stadium with tickets costing £15 for adults and £5 for kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomness Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i suspect a stadium will be shared with St Helens Rugby league team as they are in the stadium hunt also. KIRKBY though! its like we're being chased away from stanley park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i suspect a stadium will be shared with St Helens Rugby league team as they are in the stadium hunt also. KIRKBY though! its like we're being chased away from stanley park! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> St Helens are looking at getting a 30,000 seater stadium so why would we share with them? They have already made all the plans and ive seen what the stadium will look like, theres no chance we will share with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The problem is, we only sold out our current 40,000 seater stadium twice last season Do you really think we could sell out 60 + seater stadium Our season ticket sales have plumeted this year and I think in the not so distant future the arse will fall out of football as the average joe cant afford it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now that IS common sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i realy hope we get a new stadium. If we got a 60,000 capacity how long would it take to build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i realy hope we get a new stadium. If we got a 60,000 capacity how long would it take to build? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 So build a 70,000 seater and reduce all prices to attract people in and fill it! Average gate is what 37,000? double that and ticket prices could be halved the question being could we fill the stadium with tickets costing £15 for adults and £5 for kids? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice idea in a eutopian society, but as we live in a greed is good society that will never happen, they will charge us more for the privalage of having a new stadium. That why the park end is now the most expensive area in Goodison Not the main stand or upper bullens which are arguably the best views of the product on show Plus, the average gate is probably well less than 37K ATM Suppose its all down to how well the team is doing Have a look at sunderland last season, their shiny stadium looked awful with big gaps, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i suspect a stadium will be shared with St Helens Rugby league team as they are in the stadium hunt also. KIRKBY though! its like we're being chased away from stanley park! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The council want us out of Liverpool because they say they cant cope with two teams in the city cos of costs and shit like that, so theyre kicking us out to Kirkby which is under Knowsley council Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Nice idea in a eutopian society, but as we live in a greed is good society that will never happen, they will charge us more for the privalage of having a new stadium. That why the park end is now the most expensive area in Goodison Not the main stand or upper bullens which are arguably the best views of the product on show Plus, the average gate is probably well less than 37K ATM Suppose its all down to how well the team is doing Have a look at sunderland last season, their shiny stadium looked awful with big gaps, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so did boro and they reached a euro final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The council want us out of Liverpool because they say they cant cope with two teams in the city cos of costs and shit like that, so theyre kicking us out to Kirkby which is under Knowsley council <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that is absolute crap. we were the first team in liverpool. sorry about the childish comment but we were here first. fuck liverpool off to kirkby. Goodison is perfect distance from our house as it only takes 45mins to get there on a good day. goin to kirkby is too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 so did boro and they reached a euro final <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Still a half full stadium, dont get the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The council want us out of Liverpool because they say they cant cope with two teams in the city cos of costs and shit like that, so theyre kicking us out to Kirkby which is under Knowsley council <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Liverpool council are actually fighting to keep us in Liverpool, they dont want us to leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Liverpool council are actually fighting to keep us in Liverpool, they dont want us to leave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No one councillor out of about 30 is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I woke up this morning and heard it on Radio City? in Kirby though? I wouldn't like the Stadium there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 that is absolute crap. we were the first team in liverpool. sorry about the childish comment but we were here first. fuck liverpool off to kirkby. Goodison is perfect distance from our house as it only takes 45mins to get there on a good day. goin to kirkby is too far <{POST_SNAPBACK}> unluky kirkby will make my trip about 10 mins as opposed to alf an hour =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The genuine supporters are not getting the tickets for the big games, how many times last season did you have to have away ticket stubs to get yourself a ticket. ?? All the corporates and business people get them, we should be able to walk in a ground on the day of the game without all this f##kin about. Its like anything else if people get turned away they wont go again, and if we cant get in just once because theres not enough seats, then it means the place is too small. Look at it this way, who cares if 45.000 go to a ground that holds 50.000......... but if there is one or two games that we could have got 60.000 in, but the ground only holds 50,000, thats where you lose out. Got to be 60.000 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 i dont see the point in peolpe moanin about the distance they travel, if i had to id travel for hours to see the blues, it takes me an hour on a match day now. kirkby will take me an hour an half, but who cares as long as i get to see the blues? liverpool council should be tryin to keep us in the city, but the fact of the matter is; if we get free land from knowsley i dont see there bein much competition. spend £150m on a stadium under liverpool, or £75m on the same design under knowsley! i want to see us with the best facilities, under the best deal we can get. if we have to move then im all for it. but i'm still behind this project: Goodison FOR EVER-TON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 The genuine supporters are not getting the tickets for the big games, how many times last season did you have to have away ticket stubs to get yourself a ticket. ??All the corporates and business people get them, we should be able to walk in a ground on the day of the game without all this f##kin about. Its like anything else if people get turned away they wont go again, and if we cant get in just once because theres not enough seats, then it means the place is too small. Look at it this way, who cares if 45.000 go to a ground that holds 50.000......... but if there is one or two games that we could have got 60.000 in, but the ground only holds 50,000, thats where you lose out. Got to be 60.000 at least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> sorry licker dont agree with you..60000 seats looks good for the common man but as you say they'll all go to corporate no marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Still a half full stadium, dont get the point <{POST_SNAPBACK}> if you have bigger capacity stadium you can reduce your prices and increase income by attracting a higher numbers of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 if you have bigger capacity stadium you can reduce your prices and increase income by attracting a higher numbers of fans. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have a look at my previous post, I think that will not happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Java..........theres no chance of lower prices. Old Trafford........73.000 capacity and still the 2nd highest prices in the prem. ............ Fozz..........10.000 corporate seats out of the present capacity leaves 30.000 for us "Common people" as you put it. But 10.000 corporate seats out of a 60.000 capacity leaves 50.000 for us common people. Theres no point in only increasing by 10.000 if they are going to be taken up by the corporates, we will still have to produce away ticket stubs for all the big games. It has to be 60.000, and if someone else is going to fund it, why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 The reason why the corporates and business people get them is because Goodison has one of the worst corporate sections in the prem a new stadium could rectify this, and leave the genuine seats for the real fans. Kirkby has been touted for 11 years now and it has never came about, it has easy access to the motorway better than the switch Island option, and lets be honest it is still in liverpool just under a different council, people in kirkby when asked where they are from dont say knowsley do they! The fact is to compete and sign the AJ's of this world every season and not have to sell the Rooneys of this world we need to expand, 60+ is a great idea but would we sell out? do we have a waiting list like liverpool for season tickets? we have to be realistic when looking at size of stadium. If we got the structure right it would easily be expanded at a later date just look at Old Trafford. I cant see this happening unless we have new investment, who knows now Sir Paul Mc is a free agent he may well invest in us before he invests in the divorse?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 The reason why the corporates and business people get them is because Goodison has one of the worst corporate sections in the prem a new stadium could rectify this, and leave the genuine seats for the real fans. Kirkby has been touted for 11 years now and it has never came about, it has easy access to the motorway better than the switch Island option, and lets be honest it is still in liverpool just under a different council, people in kirkby when asked where they are from dont say knowsley do they! The fact is to compete and sign the AJ's of this world every season and not have to sell the Rooneys of this world we need to expand, 60+ is a great idea but would we sell out? do we have a waiting list like liverpool for season tickets? we have to be realistic when looking at size of stadium. If we got the structure right it would easily be expanded at a later date just look at Old Trafford. I cant see this happening unless we have new investment, who knows now Sir Paul Mc is a free agent he may well invest in us before he invests in the divorse?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its settled then 55,000 Bye the way, I will be very interested to see if I get NEW stadium priority voucher 5 this season with my season ticket, now that it is a credit card style. Fookin arseholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 (edited) Bye the way, I will be very interested to see if I get NEW stadium priority voucher 5 this season with my season ticket, now that it is a credit card style. Fookin arseholes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I still remember the stadium vote no 1 in 96/97 season, the money they have spent on voting could have bought a new stadium! Edited June 1, 2006 by scouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I still remember the stadium vote no 1 in 96/97 season, the money they have spent on voting could have bought a new stadium! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Looks like the new stadium is on http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400eve...-name_page.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Yeah, hope i get to go and see a match there, before my time runs out. Would still have liked it to be 60.000 cos if theirs is going to be bigger than ours they will get all the cup replays, semi finals, international matches, as well as a few band/group gigs and such. Hope they get on with it as soon as poss tho. Edited June 15, 2006 by toffeelicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 it now always gets brought up about stadium talk what about the redevelopment of Goodison with the tower that was about 50 to 55 i'd rather stay and have that than move to kirkby to be honest its just the staying in liverpool thing for me otherwise we aren't part of the 2 teams (sorry 3 for any tramere fans) of liverpool and agree why should we be the ones to move out of liverpool its are history and we were here 1st (need we remind any liverpool supporters but dont want to bring that old arguement up again) and i get the whole part of moving with the times but your only there with your history and if we had no history there would be no club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Wouldnt it be impossible to redevelop Goodison because house are so close by? I know Everton could buy the houses around the stadium to stop that problem, but that would involve Everton spending extra money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Can someone explain this in or out of Liverpool thing to me please? I live in Litherland and work in Kirkby these places fall under the Council boroughs of sefton & knowlsley but its all liverpool isnt it? I just thought it was different council areas and we would be moving out from under the umberella of Liverpool city council but we would still be in liverpool! My home & work address are both Liverpool, both post codes start with L and both phones have 0151 as the area code! Can anyone explain?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 i lived in nertherton and technically its sefton which is not in liverpool but just goes under the post codes and 0151 of liverpool think its like that up until parts of lydiate maghull then you lose the 0151 and post code Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 i lived in nertherton and technically its sefton which is not in liverpool but just goes under the post codes and 0151 of liverpool think its like that up until parts of lydiate maghull then you lose the 0151 and post code 29672[/snapback] So what is sefton cos its a council district not a place? My address in Litherland, Liverpool Surely it would be Litherland, Sefton if it wasnt liverpool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 its mad its sort of its own state i think lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_Blue Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Maybe Goldfish is an evil dictator in a small independant state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 So what is sefton cos its a council district not a place? My address in Litherland, Liverpool Surely it would be Litherland, Sefton if it wasnt liverpool! 29673[/snapback] its all to do with parlimentary seats if i remember rightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 If we did get a new stadium, were would the money for it come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 BK's arsehole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Mark - Everton already own quite a lot of houses near Goodison, and the school. Fish - im with you, Kirkby is Liverpool, the site is only 4 miles from Goodison. As much as the old place is part of our history, so is Anfield, we life there, so was was priory road. we left these places when we were either pushed or had to move to somewhere a bit more suitable (larger and more modern) and we left our history there too! if we moved to a new site in Kirkby, that is somewhere more suitable and larger, and we are being pushed by Liverpool council! They want to support Liverpools quest for a new home, so much so that they haave neglected us for year. we are a valuable club, Knowsley have realised this, and are trying their hardest to help us! while us supporters are still around our history wont die, it will go with us, for the good of EFC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 stevo cant disagree but yet would you not love it stay at Goodison if there was a option (along with everyone else)? again i will say "and i get the whole part of moving with the times but your only there with your history and if we had no history there would be no club" my words but i'll stick by them whether we move or not mate but that is my view and everyone has there own so i'm not diagreeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 id love to go down this route john http://www.toffeeweb.com/club/Goodison/gfe/ i love my traditions of the match day, the banter, the same roads, the same faces, but i cant see us staying at Goodison and being able to move forward, the landlock issue is major factor. but like i said, the history wont be left behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 its never left behind but it would rather be kept rather than TAKEN i'm only young compared to some people on here but the things i've gonr through at Goodison i'd like to keep it here..... you can say its sentiment but the bad times have hopefully gone i was on th e pitch for wimbeldon but i'd rather see it carried forward from here than anywhere else but as i've said i will move with the times but only if it is the BEST option rather than movin further than we have to...... even though they say it is 4 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 This "stadium" talk is bollocks..just more of BK's spin to keep the season ticket sales coming in,we've spent about 5 mill in the transfer market (forget about the headline figures guys and gals,we've spent this ammount so far this summer) so this is a deploy tactic to divert from the lack of more signings coming in. BK did it with smith and now he's up to his old tricks again,its the kings dock balls up again,we havent got the money for this,so theres no other reason for it to come out now. And lets not forget if the dock went ahead we where going to be met halfway with the costs for it,leaving us with something in the region of about £30 mill to find..we had'nt got it then and we havent got it now,so forget all this silly talk my friends,just more BK bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 fair game but if wyness comes out and says there is i chance i'll give him half a go foz mate coz he is the one who speaks the truth at the mo but foz i agree we've heard this before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 fair game but if wyness comes out and says there is i chance i'll give him half a go foz mate coz he is the one who speaks the truth at the mo but foz i agree we've heard this before 29789[/snapback] And this is evertons biggest problem,its all smoke and mirrors we've been lied to by BK so many times before you just cant trust them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboyquim Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 True - im not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 id love to go down this route john http://www.toffeeweb.com/club/Goodison/gfe/ i love my traditions of the match day, the banter, the same roads, the same faces, but i cant see us staying at Goodison and being able to move forward, the landlock issue is major factor. but like i said, the history wont be left behind 29783[/snapback] That stadium doesnt half look like the JJB and the Reebok mixed into one Anyway more news on the stadium - http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400eve...-name_page.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Were is the picture of iy? I cant see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 (edited) On the link in Stevo's post. ^ up there. On the left hand side Go down to "IMAGES" and click on external view. Edited June 16, 2006 by toffeelicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thanks mate. I like it but like efcfan said it does look abit like the reebox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Thanks mate. I like it but like efcfan said it does look abit like the reebox 29982[/snapback] it looks ok but lets wait an see what the council offer us ie what sites they have for development, would like to stay at Goodison but this is looking very unlikley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 that study is 3 years old, so costs will have gone up a bit i imagine. if they havent i think it was £35m predicted, £26m next year from TV could certainly help that! it does look quite a bit like reebok, but most new stadiums look pretty similar now days, apart from the superb new stadiums in Germany! im still for moving onwards and upwards. if we can find the financial backing (ideally from tesco) then i do think it is possible for us to get a new stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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