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If anyone does NFL fantasy football - Gylfi is the best example of having a player in your team that lures you in to selecting because of what you know he can do.......  And you pick despite knowing what he's going to do - fuck all.

 

It's an awful predicament having a player with so much technical talent who throws in far too many sub 6/10 performances whilst taking a position in the side that is vital to how we perform.

 

There's no question that on his day he can be a great asset but those days are few and far between.  I'd get him off the payroll - try and use him to leverage a transfer.   His general lethargy and manyana approach is not good for our club - no doubt he's a good lad etc etc but I'm not arsed.  I want gnarly winners in the team. 

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42 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

If anyone does NFL fantasy football - Gylfi is the best example of having a player in your team that lures you in to selecting because of what you know he can do.......  And you pick despite knowing what he's going to do - fuck all.

 

It's an awful predicament having a player with so much technical talent who throws in far too many sub 6/10 performances whilst taking a position in the side that is vital to how we perform.

 

There's no question that on his day he can be a great asset but those days are few and far between.  I'd get him off the payroll - try and use him to leverage a transfer.   His general lethargy and manyana approach is not good for our club - no doubt he's a good lad etc etc but I'm not arsed.  I want gnarly winners in the team. 

His technical ability is vasty over rated in my opinion. Excellent, clean striker of a ball no doubt but his passing is not what its made out to be though. He coasts through games and just watches the play go by him. 

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50 minutes ago, Btay said:

His technical ability is vasty over rated in my opinion. Excellent, clean striker of a ball no doubt but his passing is not what its made out to be though. He coasts through games and just watches the play go by him. 

He's built a whole career on taking a good set-piece.

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Every team needs squad players and depth.  At his wages and age he isn’t going anywhere but as the lads have said he works his ass off whether you like him or not.  Managers like him, we know that because he plays matches. He’s not de bruyne but he will continue to be a solid option off the bench until his contract ends.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Every team needs squad players and depth.  At his wages and age he isn’t going anywhere but as the lads have said he works his ass off whether you like him or not.  Managers like him, we know that because he plays matches. He’s not de bruyne but he will continue to be a solid option off the bench until his contract ends.

When you say "solid" ... That makes me think he gives you a minimum standard of performance which is acceptable..... He doesn't.   

He ranges from 2/10 to 8/10.... Totally unreliable. 

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13 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

When you say "solid" ... That makes me think he gives you a minimum standard of performance which is acceptable..... He doesn't.   

He ranges from 2/10 to 8/10.... Totally unreliable. 

And how many times has he played to an 8/10 since he has been with us? I can't think of many!

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28 minutes ago, Bailey said:

And how many times has he played to an 8/10 since he has been with us? I can't think of many!

Not a great deal of times.  Very similar in ways to Gomes from a consistency perspective - Gomes edges it for me.

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7 hours ago, Bailey said:

He doesn't add anything to the side in my opinion.

In fairness there aren’t many at the moment who do, we’ve been totally out played and out fought the last 5-6 games and possibly more, we’ve got the odd win or draw against the run of play, if Gylfi hadn’t been playing we wouldn’t have been any better. 

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16 hours ago, Palfy said:

In fairness there aren’t many at the moment who do, we’ve been totally out played and out fought the last 5-6 games and possibly more, we’ve got the odd win or draw against the run of play, if Gylfi hadn’t been playing we wouldn’t have been any better. 

He probably was playing and we just didn't notice him :P

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

In Garth Crooks' team of the week, the man really knows his football!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56849170

Gylfi Sigurdsson: The match wasn't a classic but the finishing was. Two outstanding finishes from Gylfi Sigurdsson and the same from Harry Kane really made the game worth watching. Sigurdsson has made my TOTW on an number of occasions and has arguably been Everton's player of the season. I certainly can't remember when I've seen him play better. He was impressive at Swansea, where he made his name, struggled at Spurs but really matured under Carlo Ancelotti. He strikes a beautiful ball and was a thorn in Tottenham's side all evening. Sigurdsson's has really found himself at Everton.

He's actually currently 12th in the TT POTS ranks Garth mate, but that's only the opinion of those who watch whole games rather than goal highlights so what do we know?

 

The stoned koala has been on a particularly long bender to be writing that nonsense. 

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38 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

You guys need to read, the article states clearly he doesn’t want to play in Saudi’s Arabia so it ain’t happening.

He's just trying to make them increase his salary offer.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

I love Gylfi and want him to stay.  I will gladly be a pete0, palfy, Sam allardyce, etc

We would be happy to have you mate, the forum is a better place when you stand by your beliefs and don’t run with the crowd✊🏻😆

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13 hours ago, Palfy said:

We would be happy to have you mate, the forum is a better place when you stand by your beliefs and don’t run with the crowd✊🏻😆

Copying PeteO doesn’t mean you two are a crowd mate….. just a married couple 😉

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20/21 8 goals 10 assists

19/20 3 goals 3 assists

18/19 14 goals 7 assists

17/18 6 goals 5 assists

 

in all comps

 

like it or not he's scoring and he's creating and he looks good while doing it.  i liked him before he got here so i'm happily biased, but he's not the problem.

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25 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

20/21 8 goals 10 assists

19/20 3 goals 3 assists

18/19 14 goals 7 assists

17/18 6 goals 5 assists

 

in all comps

 

like it or not he's scoring and he's creating and he looks good while doing it.  i liked him before he got here so i'm happily biased, but he's not the problem.

In the league:

20/21 - 3 goals and 1 assist from open play in 2,250 minutes of game time.

19/20 - 1 goal and 1 assist from open play in 2,580 minutes of game time.

18/19 - 10 goals and 4 assists from open play in 3,150 minutes of game time.

17/18 - 4 goals and 2 assists from open play in 2,265 minutes of game time.

 

Just as a quick comparison, in three seasons Bernard has played 3,851 minutes in the league and contributed 5 goals and 3 assists from open play. Walcott, in three season, played 4,644 minutes and registered 8 goals and 8 assists. Walcott (290) has a better goal involvement to minute ration that Siggy (394) and if you take out Gylfi's 18/19 season, Bernard (481) has a better goal involvement to minute ratio then him as well (591). Neither of these two were good enough.

Gylfi has had one productive season at Everton. I don't see how having your most attacking midfielder only register 8 goals and 4 assists from open play in those three other seasons isn't a big problem.

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10 minutes ago, Bailey said:

In the league:

20/21 - 3 goals and 1 assist from open play in 2,250 minutes of game time.

19/20 - 1 goal and 1 assist from open play in 2,580 minutes of game time.

18/19 - 10 goals and 4 assists from open play in 3,150 minutes of game time.

17/18 - 4 goals and 2 assists from open play in 2,265 minutes of game time.

 

Just as a quick comparison, in three seasons Bernard has played 3,851 minutes in the league and contributed 5 goals and 3 assists from open play. Walcott, in three season, played 4,644 minutes and registered 8 goals and 8 assists. Walcott (290) has a better goal involvement to minute ration that Siggy (394) and if you take out Gylfi's 18/19 season, Bernard (481) has a better goal involvement to minute ratio then him as well (591). Neither of these two were good enough.

Gylfi has had one productive season at Everton. I don't see how having your most attacking midfielder only register 8 goals and 4 assists from open play in those three other seasons isn't a big problem.

again this fascination with open play.  a lot of the game is played from a dead ball, why remove that stuff?  sure i could cherry pick stats like you do all day long to prove my point, or i could look at it holistically, he contributes.  

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8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

again this fascination with open play.  a lot of the game is played from a dead ball, why remove that stuff?  sure i could cherry pick stats like you do all day long to prove my point, or i could look at it holistically, he contributes.  

Most of the game isn't though? A dead ball specialist is a bonus and not a great indicator of success. 

And I'm not really convinced he's been more effective at dead balls than anyone else could've. 

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1 hour ago, Sibdane said:

Most of the games isn't though? A dead ball specialist is a bonus and not a great indicator of success. 

And I'm not really convinced he's been more effective at dead balls than anyone else could've. 

Baines was excellent at it and everyone talked about what a boon it was.  Gylfi does it and everyone says it’s not a big part of the game.  

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Ok so let’s say he up sticks gets on his camel 🐪 and heads off to Saudi Arabia, were does that leave us he hasn’t been playing because he’s the worst player in his position in the team, we’ve got no one of any real quality to take his position, he will get a extension mainly due to we’ve got nothing else in reserve. 

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53 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

Baines was excellent at it and everyone talked about what a boon it was.  Gylfi does it and everyone says it’s not a big part of the game.  

Baines scored from free kicks as well as putting in free kicks and corners into the box, Siggy has yet to score from a free kick ( I’m fairly certain on this) not a great return from a so called dead ball specialist IMO. 
He is very good however at pointing during games.

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8 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

Baines scored from free kicks as well as putting in free kicks and corners into the box, Siggy has yet to score from a free kick ( I’m fairly certain on this) not a great return from a so called dead ball specialist IMO. 
He is very good however at pointing during games.

Up there with the best in that respect, no question.

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

again this fascination with open play.  a lot of the game is played from a dead ball, why remove that stuff?  sure i could cherry pick stats like you do all day long to prove my point, or i could look at it holistically, he contributes.  

We have approximately half a dozen players that could fluff up their stats from dead ball situations. It makes an unfair comparison if one player takes corners, free kicks and penalties and another doesn't. 

Why shouldn't a players contribution from open play not be considered? 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Bailey said:

We have approximately half a dozen players that could fluff up their stats from dead ball situations. It makes an unfair comparison if one player takes corners, free kicks and penalties and another doesn't. 

Why shouldn't a players contribution from open play not be considered? 

 

 

Because there is more to the game than open play.  Are we not counting strikers goals from corners now too? 
 

my point was Gylfi scores and assists. Others do not.  He is on dead ball duty for a reason.  He was for 3 (4?) managers.  
 

you may not like him, that’s fine.  You prefer Bernard, I do not.

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10 hours ago, Bailey said:

We have approximately half a dozen players that could fluff up their stats from dead ball situations. It makes an unfair comparison if one player takes corners, free kicks and penalties and another doesn't. 

Why shouldn't a players contribution from open play not be considered? 

 

 

It should also tell you that they are the best player in the team for dead ball situations, I would hardly call it fluffing up the stats. There are plenty of players who’s stats would look completely different if they didn’t take the free kicks corners and penalties, Beckham springs to mind and let’s say currently Ward-Prowse, take those attributes away from them and they would look very average in the stats department. 

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