Gylfi Sigurðsson

[Bailey]

 

He looks like he hasn't had a pre-season.

This. You can see a couple of flashes but clearly not up to pace. He isn't going to be a superstar but I think he will be a solid and reliable player for us.

[Sibdane]

His instincts are top notch, but he definitely needs to get back up to speed in order to act on them.

 

Like Romey said, he hasn't had a pre-season, so I'd expect to see him contributing a lot more in about 4-5 games.

[markjazzbassist]

anyone think we paid too much now? FFS Ox went for 40m.

[StevO]

£35m according to Sky

 

I'll answer the Gylfi question in six months.

Edited August 30, 2017 by StevO

[Bill]

Yeah Siggy will turn out to be a better buy than Ox.

Give it til Christmas to make judgement.

[JoeQuince]

His instincts are top notch, but he definitely needs to get back up to speed in order to act on them.

 

Like Romey said, he hasn't had a pre-season, so I'd expect to see him contributing a lot more in about 4-5 games.

Yeah. Koeman's tactics aside, we should remember that we're without the two primary focal points of our attacking play from the past few years. It's going to take time for everyone to gel.

[Sparks FC]

anyone think we paid too much now? FFS Ox went for 40m.

 

Thor scored more last season than in the Ox's 6 with Arsenal.

 

Good player but we have enough good midfielders who lack goal scoring threat.

[Elston Gunnn]

Sigurdsson with 2 goals so far today against Ukraine.

[MikeO]

13 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Sigurdsson with 2 goals so far today against Ukraine.

Only two? Put him in the U23s.

[nyblue23]

29 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Sigurdsson with 2 goals so far today against Ukraine.

Haven't been able to see them anywhere. Open play or set pieces?

[Elston Gunnn]

3 hours ago, nyblue23 said:

Haven't been able to see them anywhere. Open play or set pieces?

Open play.  Both were pretty mundane, fairly easy.

But ... he was in the right place, in the box, looking to score.

[markjazzbassist]

4 hours ago, nyblue23 said:

Haven't been able to see them anywhere. Open play or set pieces?

http://hoofoot.com/?match=Iceland_2_-_0_Ukraine_2017_09_05

 

open play both

[nyblue23]

1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

http://hoofoot.com/?match=Iceland_2_-_0_Ukraine_2017_09_05

 

open play both

Just found them a minute ago myself. Hopefully he finds himself in spaces like those for us.

[memmaclub2]

He isn't playing well and not sure what his position is?

[Aidan]

39 minutes ago, memmaclub2 said:

He isn't playing well and not sure what his position is?

I guess he's meant to be a number 10.

But he's not got great feet, hes not that good at playing defence splitting passes, he hasnt got any flair and hes slow. This is why i was unsure as to why we even bothered buying him. I'd have liked Lanzini personally. I suppose he's got a good cross on him but that becomes useless without a beast up front.

To me, we've spent full whack on a dead ball speacialist. Waste of money.

[Matt]

2 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said:

I guess he's meant to be a number 10.

But he's not got great feet, hes not that good at playing defence splitting passes, he hasnt got any flair and hes slow. This is why i was unsure as to why we even bothered buying him. I'd have liked Lanzini personally. I suppose he's got a good cross on him but that becomes useless without a beast up front.

To me, we've spent full whack on a dead ball speacialist. Waste of money.

Would be much less of a waste if we had someone to deliver balls to

[Bill]

Agree with Aidan, at £45m plus I don't think Siggy has improved us on what we already had, in fact he could become our worst transfer for a long time.

[MikeO]

29 minutes ago, Bill said:

Agree with Aidan, at £45m plus I don't think Siggy has improved us on what we already had, in fact he could become our worst transfer for a long time.

It's possible, but he could also be the new Sheedy when he beds in, time will tell.

[Bailey]

I thought he played well today without showing that final bit of quality (that we bought him for). I thought he made some good runs, he was getting into the box and he could have scored. Give him half a dozen more games and we will see a lot more from him. 

Later in the game he dropped deeper but he isn't a CM.

[Romey 1878]

I still don't get it at all. 

[MC11]

Done absolutely jack shit at Spurs. Sold back to a lesser team and threw a few good deliveries into Gomis and Llorente. £45m player? Even in the current climate? Never! a complete balls up of a transfer and whoever sanctioned it needs to be sacked. It was too expensive from the beginning. Surely there was better available at that kind of money.

[Zoo 2.0]

People are forgetting about the summer Gylfi had, for those that are in the forgetful camp he didn't get one. He was exiled from the Swansea squad for most (if not all) of their pre-season games and was then thrown into the mix as soon as he signed for us against Manchester City. I know that he's not tore the league apart but then again who would in an Everton side that has had it's confidence shot to pieces after massive defeats against Chelsea, Tottenham, Atalanta and Manchester United? 

Just like Koeman, the lad needs time. He's not had a pre-season and has had to adapt to a new team and a new way of playing against the league's best sides in a time of turmoil. If he's still anonymous come January then by all means get on the lad's back but to do it just a month after he's signed it absolutely ridiculous. 

On 17/09/2017 at 23:46, MC11 said:

Done absolutely jack shit at Spurs. Sold back to a lesser team and threw a few good deliveries into Gomis and Llorente. £45m player? Even in the current climate? Never! a complete balls up of a transfer and whoever sanctioned it needs to be sacked. It was too expensive from the beginning. Surely there was better available at that kind of money.

You could say the same about Paulhino though and look where he is now. Scoring winning goals for FC Barcelona in La Liga alongside Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez. 

[London Blue]

1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

People are forgetting about the summer Gylfi had, for those that are in the forgetful camp he didn't get one. He was exiled from the Swansea squad for most (if not all) of their pre-season games and was then thrown into the mix as soon as he signed for us against Manchester City. I know that he's not tore the league apart but then again who would in an Everton side that has had it's confidence shot to pieces after massive defeats against Chelsea, Tottenham, Atalanta and Manchester United? 

Just like Koeman, the lad needs time. He's not had a pre-season and has had to adapt to a new team and a new way of playing against the league's best sides in a time of turmoil. If he's still anonymous come January then by all means get on the lad's back but to do it just a month after he's signed it absolutely ridiculous. 

You could say the same about Paulhino though and look where he is now. Scoring winning goals for FC Barcelona in La Liga alongside Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez. 

This, he needs time to get used to a new team, and have a sustained run in the side.

[Bailey]

I thought Gylfi looked like he was starting to find his feet in the side on Sunday. It didn't quite happen for him but having not been particularly impressed before I actually thought he could do the job we are crying out for (Barkleys).

[Aidan]

With Gylfi it's almost as if in my head I don't put pressure on him to succeed. I've never seen us sign a player for such a big fee and not expected much from them.

Whenever I'm dissaponted in his performance I almost shrug it off and make the excuse in my head he isn't good enough.

[nyblue23]

Agree with the calls for time. He'll do a great job for us if we ever get a target man, and we all know that will be number one priority in January and on.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

Done absolutely jack shit at Spurs. Sold back to a lesser team and threw a few good deliveries into Gomis and Llorente. £45m player? Even in the current climate? Never! a complete balls up of a transfer and whoever sanctioned it needs to be sacked. It was too expensive from the beginning. Surely there was better available at that kind of money.

He didn't do as bad at Spurs as you make out, which is why Pochettino went on record as saying he would be perfect for Spurs
He has had no pre season and he's playing out of position in a team that's still finding feet
I agree £45m was daft money but give the lad a chance

[Aidan]

We purchase an expensive road with no tyres. 

No target man for Gylfi makes him useless.

[MC11]

On 19 September 2017 at 16:56, Zoo 2.0 said:

People are forgetting about the summer Gylfi had, for those that are in the forgetful camp he didn't get one. He was exiled from the Swansea squad for most (if not all) of their pre-season games and was then thrown into the mix as soon as he signed for us against Manchester City. I know that he's not tore the league apart but then again who would in an Everton side that has had it's confidence shot to pieces after massive defeats against Chelsea, Tottenham, Atalanta and Manchester United? 

Just like Koeman, the lad needs time. He's not had a pre-season and has had to adapt to a new team and a new way of playing against the league's best sides in a time of turmoil. If he's still anonymous come January then by all means get on the lad's back but to do it just a month after he's signed it absolutely ridiculous. 

You could say the same about Paulhino though and look where he is now. Scoring winning goals for FC Barcelona in La Liga alongside Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez. 

Any fucker could look good around players in that team 

[Zoo 2.0]

16 hours ago, MC11 said:

Any fucker could look good around players in that team 

A mature and knowledgeable answer I see. 

If ''any fucker'' could look good around players in that team then why was Andre Gomes being put in the shop window this summer in a desperate attempt to get rid? Why was Jeremy Mathieu sold after coming in just a few seasons previously? Why was Cristian Tello shipped out on loan and then sold this summer to Real Betis? The reason is because they wasn't good enough for the squad and as a result got sold. In other words, not just anybody can go to the Camp Nou and succeed like you've naively suggested, not to mention that Paulinho has been something of a talking point in Catalunya at the moment as he's totally reinvented himself from the flop that everyone saw at Tottenham, he's been a key cog in the Barca machine and has won them points on his own, most notably at Getafe when he bagged the winner.

What am I bothering for though, you clearly watch enough La Liga football to know that anyone could look good in Barcelona and Real Madrid. The mind boggles as to why they bother having a scouting department .