Redcard Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I dont know the in's & out's of everything as im not an Everton supporter..but i would like to ask why it seems that David Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians? I read alot of the comments on here about him and most of them seem very negative against him The man gave your club its best season in goodness knows how long in 2004/05. Ok last season may not have been what you would have expected afterwards, but i cant help but feel that the man deserves more admiration and respect off Everton fans than what he seemingly gets. I'm only going by the impression i get from reading around here & if anyone wants to put me in my place or explain why properley then feel free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I like him, but i can still criticise him aswell. Some of his tactical changes during matches are totally baffling, and it usually takes him 10mins to decide what to do anyway by which time the match is more often than not gone. He has a problem with playing youth, and buying poo left backs I dont think anyone else could have done as good a job as he has with what he has been given so i wouldnt change him, i just think he could be a bit more fast thinking and open minded when it comes to youngsters, but on the whole im happy with him being our manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 his transfer market business isn't great, lookign better though and his tactics sometimes are shocking he has us play bollocks footy a lot of the time, and has a tendancy to play players out of position, although since we've signed a few its been happening les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I like him think hes a great manager but sometimes he mucks up tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 cant sub for poo, apart from that i like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboyquim Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I like the man - glad he is at Everton - a lot better than the other dross we have had in the past couple of years. Things seem to be turning at Goodison. I hope !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsaint Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 HE IS THE MAN ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankToff Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 i think it's the ginger hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 i think it's the ginger hair 33068[/snapback] :lol:but we dont care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Wouldnt say he is not lked. Though far to say some ( if many) still have a few football related concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE-TAC Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Love the guy! Wouldn't swap him for the world. The thing about subbing and doing it at the right time is tricky-sometimes there's a few factors to think about before just getting on with it i.e. are there other plyrs carrying slight injuries, anyone on a yellow and starting to lose the plot, anyone getting tired etc etc. I even thing he's done well in the transfer mkt and not just this yr. I only see Kroldrup as a mistake which he was big enuf to admit and make sure we get a fair bit of £ back. For the money paid, I still reckon Jimmy Mac and VDM will prove good buys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians? theres always a few moaners who can't understand that it takes time to develop a top quality premiership team. especially these days and more so if you are working on a tight budget. they also dont understand that mistakes are unavoidable. every manager screws up from the top down. but some clubs can afford the ballsups more than others. he's been criticised because some of his transfer decisions havent worked out. but that happens to all clubs. look at ferguson. the idiot sold beckham to real madrid because fergie is a dinosaur who didnt grasp what his commercial potential was worth to the club. real madrid claimed to have recovered the transfer fee in a matter of weeks thru sponsorship deals. arsene wenger has made a few ballsups and he is truly a management genius. also moysey has been on a learning curve. this is his first premiership club. he's now got to grips with it a lot better and i believe he has the potential to be a top manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Oh where's my Glasses, i need my glasses to read Java's posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moysyboy Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians? theres always a few moaners who can't understand that it takes time to develop a top quality premiership team. especially these days and more so if you are working on a tight budget. they also dont understand that mistakes are unavoidable. every manager screws up from the top down. but some clubs can afford the ballsups more than others. he's been criticised because some of his transfer decisions havent worked out. but that happens to all clubs. look at ferguson. the idiot sold beckham to real madrid because fergie is a dinosaur who didnt grasp what his commercial potential was worth to the club. real madrid claimed to have recovered the transfer fee in a matter of weeks thru sponsorship deals. arsene wenger has made a few ballsups and he is truly a management genius. also moysey has been on a learning curve. this is his first premiership club. he's now got to grips with it a lot better and i believe he has the potential to be a top manager. 33287[/snapback] ye look how long it took benitez johl murhinio jewel(beat us twice) lets be fair to moysey,he only had 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Oh where's my Glasses, i need my glasses to read Java's posts. 33288[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 ye look how long it took benitez johl murhinio jewel(beat us twice) lets be fair to moysey,he only had 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!! 33303[/snapback] so why do you have him in your name??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 ye look how long it took benitez johl murhinio jewel yeah. sure and look at the money they had. in fact jewel hasnt done anything yet. one season hardly counts for anything. and mourinho! anyone could win the league with his budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Ranieri didnt <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Ranieri didnt <_< 33470[/snapback] Most of his signings are still there tho arnt they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thats not the point though, he didnt win it with the players he bought, it took Mourinho setting them up right to do it, You can buy who you like but if you dont play them right or motivate them in the right way it wont make a difference how much theyve cost or how good they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Ranieri is a good coach, but he isnt even in Mourinho's league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thats my point, you can buy whoever you like with the money you have but if you dont coach them right then it wont make much of a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 agree but i think Morino will leave chelsea next season. Hes said hes not enjoying himself there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thats my point, you can buy whoever you like with the money you have but if you dont coach them right then it wont make much of a difference 33494[/snapback] a la Real Madrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 a la Real Madrid 33663[/snapback] Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Exactly 33698[/snapback] reals players are all past it now,but see what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboyquim Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I can see him going to madrid - who would take over at Chelsea Big Phil ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconnerefc Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i poersonally think moyes is a great manager but he is still in-experienced. he is only young and has been thrown in at the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i poersonally think moyes is a great manager but he is still in-experienced. he is only young and has been thrown in at the deep end. 33886[/snapback] how true, hes perking up now glad to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callan Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 with moyes at times it can be a love hate relationship, but we are going in the right direction and moyes has always been a good coach and now he seems to be getting better as a manager. - in moyes we trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconnerefc Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 DM could do for Everton what SIR Wrigleys Gum did for manure. since moyes has been at Everton we have experienced CL for the first time. Signed England international (AJ, PN) started plans for a new training ground/academy and could soon be moving to a new ground. Anyone who questions moyes stay at Everton does not no the meaning of a proper manager. a proper manager sets out long term plans and goals and i belivev moyes is living up to his golas. CMON Everton !!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 It's a pleasure to read some of the comments about Moyes but rest assured the fish will be quoting this thread if any of you turn during the season! I got a bit of twitchy arse syndrome myself in December but i'v always believed that Moyes was playing the "long game" and hopefully the board can make sure there is money there every opportunity. One slip up or one summer without a decent level of spending and the managers work can all be undone as players see that as a lack of ambition. I Just hope we can qualify for Europe this year, keep our current crop of players and add another couple of good signings and we may have finaly turned one of the corners that face us on the road ahead. COYB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 DM could do for Everton what SIR Wrigleys Gum did for manure. since moyes has been at Everton we have experienced CL for the first time. Signed England international (AJ, PN) started plans for a new training ground/academy and could soon be moving to a new ground. Anyone who questions moyes stay at Everton does not no the meaning of a proper manager. a proper manager sets out long term plans and goals and i belivev moyes is living up to his golas. CMON Everton !!!!!!!!!!!!! 33996[/snapback] I liked this one, it gave me a perspective (other than my own), which made me think "Moyes aint so bad". Said before that I like the boy, but there are times he doesn't fill me with confidence. He seems to me, an able enough lad but did he come to Everton a year or so too early?. Prove me wrong Ginge. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 his tactics sometimes are shockinghe has us play bollocks footy a lot of the time, and has a tendancy to play players out of position 32999[/snapback] sounds lyk sven Ranieri didnt <_< 33470[/snapback] arsenal were unstopable in that season so you cant blame him for not winning the league then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binns True Blue Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 if anyone can post the players who were at the club when Moyes arrived I'm sure it will prove how far we have come in a short period... I know it is 4 years but we have seen more good times than bad.... I thought walter smith did an reasonable job with his resources he had but I believed he could not take us to the next level. I think Moyes has done that even with limited resources to start with. He has made mistakes in the transfer market but i believe he has made bad signing's but has also been very srewd in the transfer market.. cahill, kilbane, yobo, arteta, bent, stubbs, neville. Im also happy to be hearing youth players being mentioned regulary with the club. the club has also come a long way off the field and i feel we are going in the right direction... although there is still alot of improvements to be made.. I feel if we can progress in the next 4 years like we have done in the last 4 years (on and off the pitch) the club will be in a very healthy position... COME ON THE BLUES!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 if anyone can post the players who were at the club when Moyes arrived I'm sure it will prove how far we have come in a short period... 34141[/snapback] http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?showto...transfer+record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binns True Blue Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 sorry.. squad moyes had when he took over.. not the players he has bought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 GOALKEEPERS Paul Gerrard Steve Simonsen Andrew Pettinger DEFENDERS Steve Watson Alessandro Pistone Alan Stubbs David Weir David Unsworth Gary Naysmith Peter Clarke Tony Hibbert Paul Gascoigne David Ginola MIDFIELDERS Niclas Alexandersson Mark Pembridge Idan Tal Thomas Gravesen Scott Gemmill Tobias Linderoth Lee Carsely Kevin McLeod Leon Osman FORWARDS Tomasz Radzinski Kevin Campbell Duncan Ferguson Wayne Rooney Joe-Max Moore Nick Chadwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Our squad is alot better than that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Only Pistone, Weir and Stubbs left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Carsley, Hibbert, Osman, Naysmith.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 well they've had new contracts under moyes, making them his players imo, so its his team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince of egypt Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 but i would like to ask why it seems that David Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians? 32973[/snapback] look at this pictures and you will know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 look at this pictures and you will know 36534[/snapback] we love are davey, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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