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Cannot believe he might end up at Chelsea after saying no in the summer...and we lose £15-£20 million. That's harsh Ross, really harsh. I've no issues with players wanting to move, look to f

Forgotten what? He was one of our best players second half of last season?  Barkley gets it in the neck for not being Lionel Messi. The weight of expectation on him has always been ridiculous, fr

:major overreaction alert:   He wasn't that bad yesterday at all! A sad day? Not going to make it? Be a mid-table player? Wow. Just wow.   I admit he hasn't got back to what he showed at the start

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I thought he looked like a seasoned campaigner out there. He was really really good. Tackles, passes, the lot.

Probably joint second best player with Barry and Kev - behind Tom Davies who was exceptional.

In the first half his final ball was letting him down I thought, but in the second half he was superb - I don't think I've ever seen him work so hard to track back and make tackles.

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In the first half his final ball was letting him down I thought, but in the second half he was superb - I don't think I've ever seen him work so hard to track back and make tackles.

Yep, first half he was up and down and hit and miss. But second half he was superb. He never stopped running and got stuck in for once.

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Yep, first half he was up and down and hit and miss. But second half he was superb. He never stopped running and got stuck in for once.

I think he's always going to be like that, no number 10 plays the perfect ball every time and I'm still not convinced he is number 10. He worked hard, got stuck into them.

 

He would be some futsal player though, the he shifts the ball quickly with both feet is amazing, challenge for him now is the deliver in the next match.

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Was the most tackles I have saw him make in one match.

Four times he slid into a tackle....though he may have fell haha.

Good performance though, still a few loose balls.

Great feet around silva on the left and then passed it straight back.

 

But he was good at what we need, and that's creating chances.

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Was the most tackles I have saw him make in one match.

Four times he slid into a tackle....though he may have fell haha.

Good performance though, still a few loose balls.

Great feet around silva on the left and then passed it straight back.

 

But he was good at what we need, and that's creating chances.

Yep I think with this assists his confidence was so high he figured what the F imma throw some tackles around here. They worked and helped us so he kept at it. Could be the start of him being more comfortable doing so since the leg break.

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Having a younger lad (Davies) might release some of the pressure(s) from him and help to encourage more mature performances from his game. He's now their role model.

 

Knowing there's younger lads in there will hopefully give him some 'responsibility', being one of the seasoned professionals in the team, instead of being 'the kid who's got the potential to be magic but doesn't win games single-handedly enough'.

 

The drop in pressure and the awareness of others may really benefit him.

 

We shall see.

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Consider:

 

-Barkley being the only young legs in the midfield, not only does he have to make his own space, but then has to use it.

 

-Barkley being in a pack of capable legs in midfield suddenly he's not the only player the oppo have to mark and close down early.

 

Having willing runners around him has bought him that extra second to receive a pass and then more options to ping it off too if he doesnt fancy carrying it forward himself. Losing Bolasie has meant a change in style to our play, we were looking to get the ball to him quickly when he played, we appear a little more considered with possession since and has forced Koeman's hand, fill the midfield with pressing players marshalled by Barry and grind the oppo into dust. It's as though we are making games as much a test of stamina as well as composure (with and without the ball).

 

Barry, Schneiderlin, Gueye, Barkley, Davies, for that area of midfield that will win or lose us games (by holding or being over run in the centre circle.)

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I'm sure someone makes these stats up!

Nah... it's just many fans can't see his quality or just prefer to spend all game slating him "shit you ross lad!"

 

I've said time after time that he needs players running on from him to give him options.... that's happening with Davies being box to box.

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Or Barkley, not being intelligent enough. When he's got time to think he dwells on the ball too long, even though he might still make the pass (or beat his man), the quality of the opportunity drops as the defence get time to get back in position.

In the moment he's the best player in the pitch. Off the ball he's the worst.

He's missed two years of football, and had a manager that would never highlight his flaws for 3 years. It shows, and hopefully Koeman can get the basics in him and we'll see a much better player.

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It's pretty simple. If he plays bad, then by all means criticise him. It's same for any player, they're in the spotlight, if they underperform they have to take the stick. No one can criticise the way Ross has played the past few weeks, he has been a big factor in us winning four out of five. Anyone who knocks him on current form shouldn't be watching football.

 

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It's pretty simple. If he plays bad, then by all means criticise him. It's same for any player, they're in the spotlight, if they underperform they have to take the stick. No one can criticise the way Ross has played the past few weeks, he has been a big factor in us winning four out of five. Anyone who knocks him on current form shouldn't be watching football.

 

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Only goal of the game comes from Davies finding Coleman running in to the box at the death. If the game hadn't been won, we'd all be looking at Ross as he squandered the best chances. He was good today held the ball well, but when the players are watching the videos he'll be getting the most feedback. Football has very little margins and Barkley should be making them. He needs the belief like Lampard and Gerard *spit* to take games by the scruff and will the ball into the net.
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Only goal of the game comes from Davies finding Coleman running in to the box at the death. If the game hadn't been won, we'd all be looking at Ross as he squandered the best chances. He was good today held the ball well, but when the players are watching the videos he'll be getting the most feedback. Football has very little margins and Barkley should be making them. He needs the belief like Lampard and Gerard *spit* to take games by the scruff and will the ball into the net.

What if he just isn't as good as those two? I agree, he isn't great in front of goal, he could improve for sure. But for fuck sake, why do we have to keep finding sticks to beat him with? Two months ago, fine, he was hang out of form, I was criticising him as much as anyone because he was poor. But him and Davies are making us tick now, how about praise him for what he does right? Yes Davies made the goal today, Ross made two last week if I'm not mistaken. Share the love!

 

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An average "attacking midfielder", who when playing well does almost everything you'd expect a premier league attacking mid to do. Plenty of better AMCs, plenty worse. As soon as people stop rating his potential so highly the better. Not going to be the world beater many think he is.

 

Look at him as an average member of the squad, not a scapegoat or a savior.

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Only goal of the game comes from Davies finding Coleman running in to the box at the death. If the game hadn't been won, we'd all be looking at Ross as he squandered the best chances. He was good today held the ball well, but when the players are watching the videos he'll be getting the most feedback. Football has very little margins and Barkley should be making them. He needs the belief like Lampard and Gerard *spit* to take games by the scruff and will the ball into the net.

Celebrate him coming back to form. Celebrate him demonstrating he can be the player we all hope he can be.

Stop fucking berating him for not being Lional Fucking Messi.

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An average "attacking midfielder", who when playing well does almost everything you'd expect a premier league attacking mid to do. Plenty of better AMCs, plenty worse. As soon as people stop rating his potential so highly the better. Not going to be the world beater many think he is.

 

Look at him as an average member of the squad, not a scapegoat or a savior.

What he has demonstrated in the last couple of games is that he is not average, that's why its so frustrating when he slips back too being average.

 

I agree tho that we should take the expectation off him a bit. I also agree with others when they say that having younger legs around him and more options infront of him have helped him play to his potential. Exciting times ahead!

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Put legs in midfield and buy him a bit of time and space. Letting the oppo put two on him and shutting his options down meant he got caught a lot. Let him off the leash and we've a seriously dangerous player turning out for us. With so many midfielders now able to complement the work ethic and subs able to freshen the legs areas up this lad will go from strength to strength. Bestbit of that last part is that the better Barkley plays the better Lukaku plays.

 

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So do i, for the last twelve months he has been half the player we know he can be, I'm probably his biggest critic, but if he can continue with his present form I would be delighted.

 

I think Davies has shook him up a bit, cos if his form does drop Davies will get selected before him. In the couple of games he's played Davies has scored a goal and got assists for two more.

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'We are now seeing a more developed, rounded Barkley. He makes 2.4 key passes per game his most ever in a Premier League campaign by far with only five players providing more in the top flight. He ranked 29th with 1.5 key passes per game last season the same as Jurado, and fewer than Jordan Veretout.'
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"Even as late as December, Neil Ashton of The S*n wrote that ‘nobody has quite cracked the Barkley code, but Martinez came as close to anybody’, and described the player as ‘a confused kid’ under Koeman."

 

I cant stand that man, chats absolute wham. was a good read that though, he is now playing like the player we all thought he would be, lets hope it continues.

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'We are now seeing a more developed, rounded Barkley. He makes 2.4 key passes per game his most ever in a Premier League campaign by far with only five players providing more in the top flight. He ranked 29th with 1.5 key passes per game last season the same as Jurado, and fewer than Jordan Veretout.'

Not sure if you read that correctly.

It was saying that this season is his best ever and that previously he ranked in between those guys.......previously!

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Not sure if you read that correctly.

It was saying that this season is his best ever and that previously he ranked in between those guys.......previously!

I never made a comment on it. Just picked out an interesting bit. That he's making more key passes.

To comment he's now looking forward instead of sideways, just needs to improve his decision making in when (first time) and where (infront, left or right foot of the runner) to release the ball.

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I never made a comment on it. Just picked out an interesting bit. That he's making more key passes.

To comment he's now looking forward instead of sideways, just needs to improve his decision making in when (first time) and where (infront, left or right foot of the runner) to release the ball.

I get that.

I just didn't understand why you edited out the part of the sentence where they compared this seasons stats with last seasons?

I even tried to quote it and it quoted the whole lot, yet yours seemed to miss our part of the sentence? Wierd that eh?

 

I was going to quote it myself, but then I realised everyone read it with their own eyes.... so it must have been a mistake in your part.

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'We are now seeing a more developed, rounded Barkley. He makes 2.4 key passes per game his most ever in a Premier League campaign by far with only five players providing more in the top flight. He ranked 29th with 1.5 key passes per game last season the same as Jurado, and fewer than Jordan Veretout.'

 

 

I get that.

I just didn't understand why you edited out the part of the sentence where they compared this seasons stats with last seasons?

I even tried to quote it and it quoted the whole lot, yet yours seemed to miss our part of the sentence? Wierd that eh?

 

I was going to quote it myself, but then I realised everyone read it with their own eyes.... so it must have been a mistake in your part.

 

I'm confused. Doesn't what Pete's quoted have this seasons stats compared to last season's? What's been missed out? I've even just gone back and read the article and I can't see what's missing. Maybe it's just too early in the morning for me :lol:.

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I'm confused. Doesn't what Pete's quoted have this seasons stats compared to last season's? What's been missed out? I've even just gone back and read the article and I can't see what's missing. Maybe it's just too early in the morning for me :lol:.

No mate. The quote is missing the middle part where it says that.... or it does on my phone haha!

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Yeah that's always been my problem with him but like you say, he can do it and I hope it continues.

Going through a purple patch at the moment so long may it continue, I'm one of his biggest critics (but I would never boo a player) so I'm happy that he has been doing so well lately.

 

 

Might get £50m for him yet.

 

 

 

Only joking.lol

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That tackle by the line was reckless and clumsy.... but it's what he is lacking at times.

Was great to see him throw himself into a tackle, fully committed.

 

Loved watching him yesterday. Reminded me of a tosser from across the park.

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