MC11 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Calm down girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Mike before you go on an uneducated rant. Look through all my comments. If the lad plays well, I'll say he's played well. thatdoesn't change my overall judgment.. I have always questioned Barkley so I will go on. Thankyou You correctly said he's a game changer. Which he is. Sometimes it doesn't come off and that's to be expected. For some reason he's being criticised for not being a complete midfielder? He's half way through his second full season, let's kinda let him learn I don't like carragher or Neville but as pundits but they know their stuff. They are unanimous in the agreement that Barkley has unique talents to be one of the best. Good enough for me. Edited January 16, 2015 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It's all still potential though and I can see why people are questioning the hype - it's stagnated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 You correctly said he's a game changer. Which he is. Sometimes it doesn't come off and that's to be expected. For some reason he's being criticised for not being a complete midfielder? He's half way through his second full season, let's kinda let him learn I don't like carragher or Neville but as pundits but they know their stuff. They are unanimous in the agreement that Barkley has unique talents to be one of the best. Good enough for me. You've definitely made a new years resolution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Mike before you go on an uneducated rant. Look through all my comments. If the lad plays well, I'll say he's played well. thatdoesn't change my overall judgment.. I have always questioned Barkley so I will go on. Thankyou What uneducated rant? Just pointing out that you did, fairly recently, rate him. You said, "This lad is a game changer" and it wasn't in a match day thread so you weren't judging him on a single performance, you were commenting on him in general (this is a calm explanation by the way, an uneducated rant is quite different).. One other thing. That's why I judge people on an overview and not match by match like most in this forum. The lad has incredible feet but without desire, tanacity and vision he'll become a nobody. I remember hearing the same about a guy called rodwell a while back. Said he was mediocre back then, but again, caught the wrath of the majority only to be proved right AGAIN!!!! Where is playing now? Rodwell left Everton in 2012 and you joined TT in Jan 2013 so whatever majority you may have caught wrath from it wasn't anybody here so no need to get all superior eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It's all still potential though and I can see why people are questioning the hype - it's stagnated. Unquestionably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 What uneducated rant? Just pointing out that you did, fairly recently, rate him. You said, "This lad is a game changer" and it wasn't in a match day thread so you weren't judging him on a single performance, you were commenting on him in general (this is a calm explanation by the way, an uneducated rant is quite different).. One other thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 What uneducated rant? Just pointing out that you did, fairly recently, rate him. You said, "This lad is a game changer" and it wasn't in a match day thread so you weren't judging him on a single performance, you were commenting on him in general (this is a calm explanation by the way, an uneducated rant is quite different).. One other thing. Rodwell left Everton in 2012 and you joined TT in Jan 2013 so whatever majority you may have caught wrath from it wasn't anybody here so no need to get all superior eh? Sorry Mike I should have explained more clearly. I have other blue nose friends that have mo connection with TT. Unlike others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 What uneducated rant? Just pointing out that you did, fairly recently, rate him. You said, "This lad is a game changer" and it wasn't in a match day thread so you weren't judging him on a single performance, you were commenting on him in general (this is a calm explanation by the way, an uneducated rant is quite different).. One other thing. Rodwell left Everton in 2012 and you joined TT in Jan 2013 so whatever majority you may have caught wrath from it wasn't anybody here so no need to get all superior eh? One other thing.... If I make the same remarks about the same player in several different game threads, I would class. This as an overall judgement. Smart arse!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think he's massively overrated I get why people think he may be the next big thing and he does show glimpses of reaching those heights but so do lots of players. I firmly believe if he played for Liverpool, the posters purring over him here would be absolutely slaughtering him. If we had Sterling and they Barkley the same people posting how great Barkley is and how shit Sterling is would be on the opposite side of the fence. I still maintain Sterling is a much better prospect than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 If I make the same remarks about the same player in several different game threads, I would class. This as an overall judgement. Smart arse!!! So your overall judgment based on watching different individual games is that "He's always suffered with lack of vision and knowing when to realease a pass..." and your overall judgment based on accumulated knowledge from those games is that "He's a game changer end of" Thanks for the clarification, seems so obvious now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Personally I think his talent might be getting coached out if him. For example Hodgson getting on his back, that's not going to do his confidence any good, the more you're told to stop messing with the ball the more you're going to over think things with it! He's not arrogant enough either. For example Rooney was just raw natural talent (like Ross) but he had mean streak in him!!! You could see he wanted to win - at all costs. He'd put his anger into explosive runs barging anything in front of him out of the way. You don't see that hunger from Barkley. I still think he'll go all the way but he needs to settle in to one role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Personally I think his talent might be getting coached out if him. For example Hodgson getting on his back, that's not going to do his confidence any good, the more you're told to stop messing with the ball the more you're going to over think things with it! He's not arrogant enough either. For example Rooney was just raw natural talent (like Ross) but he had mean streak in him!!! You could see he wanted to win - at all costs. He'd put his anger into explosive runs barging anything in front of him out of the way. You don't see that hunger from Barkley. I still think he'll go all the way but he needs to settle in to one role. Oh don't get me wrong, I also think he'll go all the way................ Whilst not getting his shot off and a mass of players around him screaming for the pass. The commentary goes something like this...... "Barkley on the ball now, beats one, beats another, goes to shoot, keeps going, goes to shoot, keeps going, goes to shoot...and runs it out of play" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It's as if he has major OCD... Everything has to be perfect but whilst he's trying to execute this, opposition nick the ball off him......then he jogs back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 It's as if he has major OCD... Everything has to be perfect but whilst he's trying to execute this, opposition nick the ball off him......then he jogs back. Hes playing out of position too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's as if he has major OCD... Everything has to be perfect but whilst he's trying to execute this, opposition nick the ball off him......then he jogs back. This was very evident in the match against West Ham. Games are 95% guts and only 5% glory, something I suspect he still needs to learn. The most valuable players are not the headline makers but those who consistently put in a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ross-barkley-needs-start-enjoying-8465087 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ross-barkley-needs-start-enjoying-8465087 This read more than anything else makes me realise we've got a great manager on our hands. Absolutely brilliant in terms of psychology IMO. There is an element of siege mentality here and it's gonna work. It's not about Ross, it's about the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 This read more than anything else makes me realise we've got a great manager on our hands. Absolutely brilliant in terms of psychology IMO. There is an element of siege mentality here and it's gonna work. It's not about Ross, it's about the team. "Enjoy the football, leave the pressure to me" Lovely stuff. What I find amusing about these Liverpool Echo articles are the comments underneath. Funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Wish bobby was my dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Wish bobby was my dad. .....just for the free holidays to Spain!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 .....just for the free holidays to Spain!!! Phenominal holidays. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Phenominal holidays. Unique holidays. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Message to Ross. We come to watch you drive forward, to try something different. We want to see you shoot when you have the opportunity, glide past players when on the front foot. If you miss, get tackled, or your pass doe not come off....we don't care. We just want to see you try! Play like you love the game and us fans will be behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Unique holidays. A special blend of beaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 A special blend of beaches. Damn it. You won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 What he is a scared player right now. He did his best to hide tonight. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 What he is a scared player right now. He did his best to hide tonight.i said a couple of weeks ago; he needs time out of the firing line. We need fighters at the moment and he is not ready to fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memmaclub Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 he did his best to hide - barry was fucking up every time and Naismith in our team is a fucking embarrassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Poor tonight. Looked a shadow of his real self. Never looked keen to get on the ball, and when he did, he didn't really do much with it. Gutted for him. He doesn't deserve the flack, he didn't tell everyone to expect so much from him. Get him out. Let him chill for a bit. MikeO and patto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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