Brett Angel Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 sterling has played left of a three, right of a three, central of a three and striker, all within two seasons.... if you've got it you've got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 sterling has played left of a three, right of a three, central of a three and striker, all within two seasons.... if you've got it you've got it. Barkley best position isn't out wide. Not sure what your point is Brett. Completely different players. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Barkley best position isn't out wide. Not sure what your point is Brett. Completely different players. Agreed, its not rocket science. Play to the lads strengths instead of asking him to do things he's not comfortable with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I actually think he should start from a deep mid position. He isn't a player to unlock a defwnsebwith a decisive through ball. He is a player who can change the pace of attack and drive forward. He always looks better running away from players rather than at them. Put him alongside McCarthy at the back and let Besic be the more forward of the trio and you will see something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I actually think he should start from a deep mid position. He isn't a player to unlock a defwnsebwith a decisive through ball. He is a player who can change the pace of attack and drive forward. He always looks better running away from players rather than at them. Put him alongside McCarthy at the back and let Besic be the more forward of the trio and you will see something special. I'm bemused by the logic of playing him deep we've already tried it and he's looked shit and when a team presses us he has absolutely no clue how to deal with it He's either played central or slightly forward for me he has no deep laying qualities whatsoever in my eyes He needs to be played in his natural position and for some time so he can develop into the player we hope he will rather than be played here there and everywhere which will just turn him into a Milner esq utility man Edited February 17, 2015 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 sterling has played left of a three, right of a three, central of a three and striker, all within two seasons.... if you've got it you've got it. I posted a thread about this. Sterling is by far a better player than Barkley. He creates more, scores more, has more assists and can play in more positions. I'd swap Sterling for Barkley in a heart beat. All those who say Barkley over him would not pick Barkley if the players were playing for opposite clubs, they'd laugh at the words "barkley is better than Sterling" I love Everton as much as anyone but you have to be honest and sensible in your reasoning or you just sound bitter. I understand it's all about opinions but Sterling gas again this season easily out performed Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I've stayed away from this topic purposely as I'm expecting to be pissed off if I read it so I won't. But I've got to say the treatment Ross has received at Goodison in the last few months has been disgraceful. We have a hell of a talent on our hands here, one that bigger clubs would gladly take of our hands, but if he doesn't put one in the top bin or take on five players everytime he gets the ball he's getting grief. Seeing him being booed by his own fans for not being as good as we would like him too be has made me sick, and has not helped his confidence. I see a young lad who looks scared to try something because he is scared of the reaction when if it goes wrong. I heard a fella infront of me who has given him nothing but abuse for months complaining that he has been on the bench recently. I couldn't believe it. I know one thing for sure, when he speaks to his agent about the stick he has had from the fans his agent will be telling him he won't get booed at City! Rant over, for now. I've not heard him get booed tbh Steve although that doesn't automatically mean he never has but he deserves the critisism he gets at times. He loses the ball all the time giving it away cheaply then trots after it like he hasn't a care in the world, he doesn't jump for headers, he's greedy, he misses important passes , he takes far too many touches , he strolls round at times like he has a devine right to do fuck all. Just because he has come through the acadamy doesn't mean he is above critisism. I personally never get on players backs at the game I support them, clap when they fuck up and scream to keep their heads up and encourage them but I do vent on sites like this. What absolutely infuriates ne with the Barkley lovers, most bleat he's young, he has lots to learn then slate Lukaku who is the same age. It seems if you come with a price tag you can be slaughtered but if you come through the acadamy you can have all the excuses of youth, inexperience, development etc etc. it can't be ok for one cos he cost nothing then slaughter another player cos he cost a lot of money it pisses me right off. They both should get the same treatment as and when they're underperforming. Not directed at you mate oranyone here in particular. Hust sick of hearing people at the game justifying Barkleys bad performances whilst leathering Lukaku who is the same age at the same point of development and who although has been not great this season has still easily out preformed golden boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I've not heard him get booed tbh Steve although that doesn't automatically mean he never has but he deserves the critisism he gets at times. He loses the ball all the time giving it away cheaply then trots after it like he hasn't a care in the world, he doesn't jump for headers, he's greedy, he misses important passes , he takes far too many touches , he strolls round at times like he has a devine right to do fuck all. Just because he has come through the acadamy doesn't mean he is above critisism. I personally never get on players backs at the game I support them, clap when they fuck up and scream to keep their heads up and encourage them but I do vent on sites like this. What absolutely infuriates ne with the Barkley lovers, most bleat he's young, he has lots to learn then slate Lukaku who is the same age. It seems if you come with a price tag you can be slaughtered but if you come through the acadamy you can have all the excuses of youth, inexperience, development etc etc. it can't be ok for one cos he cost nothing then slaughter another player cos he cost a lot of money it pisses me right off. They both should get the same treatment as and when they're underperforming. Not directed at you mate oranyone here in particular. Hust sick of hearing people at the game justifying Barkleys bad performances whilst leathering Lukaku who is the same age at the same point of development and who although has been not great this season has still easily out preformed golden boy. You should try sitting in the Lower Gwladys he gets crucified no matter what he does, its that bad that I think Roberto should only play the lad in away matches now until he gets his confidence back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Didn't he play deep against QPR which ended up in arguably one of his best performances of the season alongside Besic? This is where I see him. He loves to have space in front of him to run Into. He doesn't seem to enjoy being on the edge of the area, he always turns back. Elston Gunnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Didn't he play deep against QPR which ended up in arguably one of his best performances of the season alongside Besic? This is where I see him. He loves to have space in front of him to run Into. He doesn't seem to enjoy being on the edge of the area, he always turns back. And in the Goodison Derby last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You should try sitting in the Lower Gwladys he gets crucified no matter what he does, its that bad that I think Roberto should only play the lad in away matches now until he gets his confidence back Well they're a fucking disgrace then. If they're stupid enough to think everytime he gets the ball he's got to beat 9 men and score a worldy then we don't need them as fans. Barkley is not above critisism though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Didn't he play deep against QPR which ended up in arguably one of his best performances of the season alongside Besic? This is where I see him. He loves to have space in front of him to run Into. He doesn't seem to enjoy being on the edge of the area, he always turns back. He did and apart from his goal he was poor For me personally he's not suited to the role it's all well and good saying he can charge forward but what happens when a team does that to us as QPR did at times he looked lost and that's against one of the worst sides I've ever witnessed he doesn't possess the defensive nous for that position He's got great feet pace and movement he's a number 10 or should be sat in the hole behind the front line he just needs confidence to let his ability loose and I feel Martinez started to let him do that then started pissing him around in various positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Best I've seen of Barkley is when he's played deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Same here, he looks too cautious when he receives the ball on the last third for me. His best clips are retrieving the ball in our half. Playing deep does not mean you need to be a defensive player. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Well they're a fucking disgrace then. If they're stupid enough to think everytime he gets the ball he's got to beat 9 men and score a worldy then we don't need them as fans. Barkley is not above critisism though. Nobody is above criticism however with Barley it has gone way too far The other week some scally was screaming abuse at him one minute for playing it safe, then screaming at him for taking a man on the next he just cant win at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Same here, he looks too cautious when he receives the ball on the last third for me. His best clips are retrieving the ball in our half. Playing deep does not mean you need to be a defensive player. True to a certain extent and I do get what your saying mate but I was on the QPR game as where many probably on here and like I said apart from his burst forward for the goal he looked lost almost reluctant to go forward whether that's his inexperience in that role or Martinez's instruction remains to be seen That role for me is more suited to a player like Rooney who can spray the ball and play defence splitting passes but also go forward with it at his feet Barkley doesn't have that all round ability.... Yet Besic can do the above and can also handle any defensive duties Edited February 18, 2015 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Best I've seen of Barkley is when he's played deep. Agreed. And agree with whoever above said he's not the best in the final third yet. His driving runs and ability to transiston are best in the box to box deep role. He's a player you mold the system to, we shouldn't just play 4231 and he goes wherever. If he's really the future then make the system suit him and stones and the others. Put the old guys square pegs into round holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Isn't it funny that when Barkley's away from the idiots in the crowd at Goodison that he puts in a confident performance like tonight? MikeO and MC11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Isn't it funny that when Barkley's away from the idiots in the crowd at Goodison that he puts in a confident performance like tonight? Thought he was excellent tonight. Needs a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Montana Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 played well tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Brilliant tonight. Bring it home Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Excellent performance tonight. Well done Ross, proud of you tonight. Please take all the confidence you can from this game and prove to me you can be the player that's clearly in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Did very well, couple of bad decisions aside. Needs to see this Ross more often, very happy with him tonight and deserved a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I thought his reaction for the booking was brilliant. Took no shit. Sudoku or whatever he's called needed butting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I thought his reaction for the booking was brilliant. Took no shit. Sudoku or whatever he's called needed butting. Shocking decision from the ref how he got away with that I'll never know The ref needed slap aswel I couldn't handle a cnut like that shouting in my face Great performance from him I though he was our best player all round last night or very close to Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Barkley was by a country Mile the best footballer out there. On his day he is the best football player we have - by far. That's why I believe he will be a top top player. But Goals make headlines and lukaku got 3 and they won him man of the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Barkley best performance for ages, but we played a different type of game why oh why can't we play like that all the time we ripped them to shreds. This exactly. Just repeat the performance against Leicester, if anything, they'll be slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 This exactly. Just repeat the performance against Leicester, if anything, they'll be slower. There is no way Leicester will be as open, they will come here and get men behind the ball so it will be an entirely different game Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 There is no way Leicester will be as open, they will come here and get men behind the ball so it will be an entirely different game I mean keep up the intensity and the pressing, cause Leicester to make a mistake or at least hurry them. Only way we could break down a team who park the bus. Instead of giving them the time to reset and organise, like we have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/ross-barkleys-problems-everton-fc-8755511 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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