Avinalaff Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 We have quite a lot of players in the final year of their contract if my research is correct, and quite a few who will be in their final year next season. I know we have plenty to be concerned about, but given that Everton's track record of sorting out contracts has been pretty dire recently, is it a problem? Here is a list of contracts from our current squad: 1 Jan Mucha Contract expires summer 2014 2 Tony Hibbert Contract expires summer 2014 3 Leighton Baines Contract expires summer 2015 5 John Heitinga Contract expires summer 2014 6 Phil Jagielka Contract expires summer 2015 7 Diniyar Bilyaletdinov Contract expires summer 2013 8 Louis Saha Contract expires summer 2012 10 Royston Drenthe Not our player. Contract expires summer 2012 11 Denis Stracqualursi Not our player. Contract expires summer 2012 12 Marcus Hahnemann 39 year old signed until January 2012 14 James McFadden Contract expires summer 2012 15 Sylvain Distin Returning from injury. Contract expires summer 2012 17 Tim Cahill Contract expires summer 2014 18 Philip Neville Contract expires summer 2013 19 Magaye Gueye Contract expires summer 2015 20 Ross Barkley Contract expires summer 2013 21 Leon Osman Contract expires summer 2014 23 Seamus Coleman Contract expires summer 2014 24 Tim Howard Contract expires summer 2014 25 Marouane Fellaini Contract expires summer 2016 26 Jack Rodwell Contract expires summer 2015 27 Apostolos Vellios Contract expires summer 2014 28 Victor Anichebe Contract expires summer 2014 29 Joao Silva On loan Vitoria de Setubal Contract expires summer 2013 30 Shkodran Mustafi Contract expires summer 2012 31 Adam Forshaw Contract expires summer 2012 34 Shane Duffy On loan Scunthorpe. Contract expires summer 2012 37 Jose Baxter On loan Tranmere. Contract expires summer 2012 38 James Wallace On loan Shrewsbury, Contract expires summer 2012 43 Conor McAleny Contract expires summer 2012 When you look at our squad, we really are in need of new faces. It's a very bad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) I Dont think its as bad as you make it out to be, most of the players highlighted are the wrong side of 30, so will naturally only get 1 year extensions anyway, 2 if their lucky (Neville, Saha, Distin). And i'm not sure Barkley has even signed a Professional contract yet and is currently still on youth terms? which i think have a 2-3 year limit on the contracts anyway, Dont quote me on that, but i think thats the case, so i'm not overly worried about that. As for Mcfadden and Hahneman, their squad fillers at best and i cant really see them being a loss if they were to go, though i do hope we can get a small fee for Mucha, and then Hahneman could come in as number 2. Then you've got Billy, who may aswell leave for nothing, because i cant see anyone paying a fee. And as for the youngsters, they will be offered contract's if Moyes deems them good enough, and if not they will probably fade into League 1 obscurity. Although i really hope Duffy and Baxter make it. Edited December 5, 2011 by GoodisonRoad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 My concern - highlighted a good while ago is the money it was going to cost to replace arteta, cahill, neville, saha, distin, all approaching the age where they are due to retire (or slowed down too much). Need a buyer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 My concern - highlighted a good while ago is the money it was going to cost to replace arteta Hibbert, cahill, neville, saha, distin, all approaching the age where they are due to retire (or slowed down too much). Need a buyer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Arteta was playing for us when I made the original post - that's why I put it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Arteta was playing for us when I made the original post - that's why I put it there. Fair enough bro, just helping you keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Fair enough bro, just helping you keep up No worries mate - wonder how much of the £10m we will use from arteta??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) No worries mate - wonder how much of the £10m we will use from arteta??? My concern too ,especially as Bill said it was too late for Moyes to spend it when Arteta left. How much of it has been dwindled away by this and that.Don't forget though, he wasn't the only player we sold ,so I would like to think we would have at least the Arty money. Back on-topic , I do agree with GoodisonRoad , for once I'm going to be positive Edited December 5, 2011 by Noble Savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 We have quite a lot of players in the final year of their contract if my research is correct, and quite a few who will be in their final year next season. I know we have plenty to be concerned about, but given that Everton's track record of sorting out contracts has been pretty dire recently, is it a problem? - Track record has been quite good in my opinion = Baines, Jags, Rodwell, Felli, Coleman not the mention that the players we have brought in in recent years (Maggie, Vellios, Johnny....) all got 5 year deals. Going through the below: Here is a list of contracts from our current squad: 1 Jan Mucha Contract expires summer 2014 2 Tony Hibbert Contract expires summer 2014 3 Leighton Baines Contract expires summer 2015 5 John Heitinga Contract expires summer 2014 6 Phil Jagielka Contract expires summer 2015 7 Diniyar Bilyaletdinov Contract expires summer 2013 He will be sold Jan/Summer 8 Louis Saha Contract expires summer 2012 No great loss, but expect he will get 1 or 2 year extension 10 Royston Drenthe Not our player. Contract expires summer 2012 Loan player, hopefully a permanent transfer in the summer (though I doubt it) 11 Denis Stracqualursi Not our player. Contract expires summer 2012 Loan player, no loss 12 Marcus Hahnemann 39 year old signed until January 2012 No great loss, hes not going to play anyway 14 James McFadden Contract expires summer 2012 No great loss, hes not going to play anyway 15 Sylvain Distin Returning from injury. Contract expires summer 2012 Expect he will get 1 or 2 year extension 17 Tim Cahill Contract expires summer 2014 18 Philip Neville Contract expires summer 2013 Expect he will get 1 or 2 year extension, if not join the coaching staff 19 Magaye Gueye Contract expires summer 2015 20 Ross Barkley Contract expires summer 2013 Wait til he turns 18, he will get a 5 year contract 21 Leon Osman Contract expires summer 2014 23 Seamus Coleman Contract expires summer 2014 24 Tim Howard Contract expires summer 2014 25 Marouane Fellaini Contract expires summer 2016 26 Jack Rodwell Contract expires summer 2015 27 Apostolos Vellios Contract expires summer 2014 28 Victor Anichebe Contract expires summer 2014 29 Joao Silva On loan Vitoria de Setubal Contract expires summer 2013 He'll be sold in the summer, which is a shame really, wanted to see him 30 Shkodran Mustafi Contract expires summer 2012 Same as Joao Silva 31 Adam Forshaw Contract expires summer 2012 Will get a renewal, depending on his loan spell 34 Shane Duffy On loan Scunthorpe. Contract expires summer 2012 Will get a renewal, depending on his loan spell 37 Jose Baxter On loan Tranmere. Contract expires summer 2012 Will get a renewal, depending on his loan spell 38 James Wallace On loan Shrewsbury, Contract expires summer 2012 Will get a renewal, depending on his loan spell 43 Conor McAleny Contract expires summer 2012 Will get a renewal, hearing good things from his reserve performances When you look at our squad, we really are in need of new faces. It's a very bad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The core of the team and players who we need to keep to move forward are: Felli Baines Barkley Rodwell Howard Jags Johnny Vellios (in time) That is 7 players IMO, pretty scary when that means we are 4 players short of a first 11 that would take the club forward, the likes of osman is a bench player i'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The core of the team and players who we need to keep to move forward are: Felli Baines Barkley Rodwell Howard Jags Johnny Vellios (in time) That is 7 players IMO, pretty scary when that means we are 4 players short of a first 11 that would take the club forward, the likes of osman is a bench player i'm afraid. yeah, a bit scary but bare in mind that most of them are tied down for the next 3-5 years. Thats somewhat encouraging right? I'd stick Maggie in there too and Coleman, so that makes 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 yeah, a bit scary but bare in mind that most of them are tied down for the next 3-5 years. Thats somewhat encouraging right? I'd stick Maggie in there too and Coleman, so that makes 9. Agree, I think the problem is apart from the first namers (Baines, Felli, Howard, Jags, Rodders) we are looking at potential. We need 4-5 solid signings (a striker, right mid, left mid (if drenthe leaves) and right back) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Agree, I think the problem is apart from the first namers (Baines, Felli, Howard, Jags, Rodders) we are looking at potential. We need 4-5 solid signings (a striker, right mid, left mid (if drenthe leaves) and right back) completely agree on the striker and RB but wings I think we have covered, or at least have players who can play there. But like you say most are potential and Moyes' tactics arent exactly going to let the potential flourish, not at the moment anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Agree, I think the problem is apart from the first namers (Baines, Felli, Howard, Jags, Rodders) we are looking at potential. We need 4-5 solid signings (a striker, right mid, left mid (if drenthe leaves) and right back) at least id say, we have a basic core and not much else, a few potential youngsters, but we need at least 5 good quality players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 at least id say, we have a basic core and not much else, a few potential youngsters, but we need at least 5 good quality players. Sadly we have no chance unless we sell felli and rodders for example, need a buyer for the club, badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sadly we have no chance unless we sell felli and rodders for example, need a buyer for the club, badly Bill needs to really step forward now and show his worth, we need to sort this all out once and for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Bill needs to really step forward now and show his worth, we need to sort this all out once and for all Over a game of dice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Over a game of dice!! or a pint at the Rovers Return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I'm concerned about the following points: We already have the smallest squad in the league. 12 players will leave in the summer on a free unless they sign new contracts. Given the fiasco regarding Gosling being able to walk, it makes me wonder if our club actually realise this, and if they do, what they are doing about it. Barkley is still not tied down, and though we do have what I would class as 'key' players tied down, their numbers are few. Some of the 'older' players are included in the 12, such as Saha, and Distin, but players such as Neville, Cahill, Osman, Hibbert, Mucha, Howard etc etc are not. We don't have a squad of 25 players nominated this year. How many will we have next year? .......................................................................................................................................... Have we allowed the contracts to run down because we are about to be taken over, and about to fill the squad with a billion worth of talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Barkley is nothing too worry about, he was offered the maximum length contract available to under 18s. Incidentally, he turned 18 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Barkley is nothing too worry about, he was offered the maximum length contract available to under 18s. Incidentally, he turned 18 today. id have thought it was quite the opposite tbh Louis, he can't be happy sitting on his arse week in, week out, and he knows the top clubs in the land are after him, Moyes needs to play this very carefully imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Rumours around that Distin is going to sign a 1 year extension very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Rumours around that Distin is going to sign a 1 year extension very soon I've got the party streamers ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I've got the party streamers ready. You've warmed to him slightly since his arrival though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 You've warmed to him slightly since his arrival though My lack of enthusiasm isn't anything to do with his ability tbh, it's more about the fact that this is about the only positive news coming out of Everton . I hope we hear about Barkley signing a long term deal soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 My lack of enthusiasm isn't anything to do with his ability tbh, it's more about the fact that this is about the only positive news coming out of Everton . I hope we hear about Barkley signing a long term deal soon. When does he turn 18? Or has he turned 18? I expect it to be pretty soon after then. I'm hoping the reason he hasn't played is because of the contract. Because we know he's that good, DM isn't playing him incase someone comes in for him and pays sod all, in comparison to his ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 When does he turn 18? Or has he turned 18? I expect it to be pretty soon after then. I'm hoping the reason he hasn't played is because of the contract. Because we know he's that good, DM isn't playing him incase someone comes in for him and pays sod all, in comparison to his ability. He turned 18 yesterday didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 http://www.evertonfc.com//news/archive/2011/12/10/barkley-deal-close?utm_source=rss_everton&utm_medium=rss_feed&utm_term=Barkley+Deal+Close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Great stuff! I really hope we can keep hold of him for the long term I think this lad will be a class act in the very near future.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Great stuff! I really hope we can keep hold of him for the long term I think this lad will be a class act in the very near future.. I think he's already better than most we have at the moment... Hope he starts today, if Neville plays instead I will go nuts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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