Romey 1878 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 A good work horse but that really is about it isn't it? I'd rather save the pennies if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 as long as wages aren't too high i'd happily have him here...decent player and has a huge following in asia can only help i'm sure? scores important goals too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) He's been a little off this season. The champs league final united lost SAF admitted his biggest regret was leaving him out, always played for the big games other than that. Big yes from me, just hope he plays like last year and this year was a one off stinker. Edit: As Marco said the Asian fan base will give us a boost as well. Edited May 17, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Was it from 4th official? Would be delighted if we signed him - excellent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Who wrote this? Think we should all copy in the source, saves us all from asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I always rated him, I would be really happy if this came off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Who wrote this? Think we should all copy in the source, saves us all from asking err good point and no idea, sorry! Will keep it in mind next time,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Richard Buxton @Richard_Buxton_ James McFadden and Marcus Hahnemann have both left #EFC after their contacts expired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Good, they were only short-term options anyway. McFadden, how that guy got another contract in the first place is a mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-mackie Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Fourth Official suggested we might be in for Tom Ince of Blackpool yesterday. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'd be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'd be happy with that. Looks a good player, a bit lightweight maybe, echo's of SWP about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Do you not think Ince would get knocked off the ball quite easy against premier league defenders then He looks as though he would need to bulk up a bit Edited May 20, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The obsession with players being big does my nut right in. You get him to bulk up and then he'd lose pace. Just look at Agbonlahor; he's bulked up and lost a shedload of pace. The whole point of the type of wide player that he is is that he's wiry and uses pace and trickery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The obsession with players being big does my nut right in. You get him to bulk up and then he'd lose pace. Just look at Agbonlahor; he's bulked up and lost a shedload of pace. The whole point of the type of wide player that he is is that he's wiry and uses pace and trickery. You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-mackie Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. To be fair to the lad, from what I saw of him yesterday, he seemed to track back and help out his full back quite a lot. In terms of his size, I don;t think that would be the issue - there are plenty of big, powerful defenders in the Championship. For me the worry would be him stepping up and playing against more intelligent defenders. Risk worth taking at the right price I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. Over short distances it doesnt make a difference. Just depends on your natural muscle fibre, fast twitch or something on the lines of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. I do agree with you with regards to Agbonlahor, but the likes of Aguero and Tevez, Rooney very stocky but can still move, its more to do with fitness imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I do agree with you with regards to Agbonlahor, but the likes of Aguero and Tevez, Rooney very stocky but can still move, its more to do with fitness imo. They've only ever been stocky. Can you tell me if they were able to shift at the same rate before? No, so those examples don't really work. I'm saying you're going to take something away from him if you get him to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) They've only ever been stocky. Can you tell me if they were able to shift at the same rate before? No, so those examples don't really work. I'm saying you're going to take something away from him if you get him to bulk up. Well we need to sign him first then we will see, in all fairness Osman seems to have been ok over the years. Also if you look at Aguero when he takes his shirt off, thats all muscle, its not natural build its gym work you can tell. Edited May 20, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Also if you look at Aguero when he takes his shirt off, thats all muscle, its not natural build its gym work you can tell. No offense, but you're watching football for all the wrong reasons mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 No offense, but you're watching football for all the wrong reasons mate! no, just a tad jealous thats all lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Fourth Official @Fourth_Official Rumours gathering pace regarding Everton making a move for Burnley's Jay Rodriguez #EFC 3:52pm - 22 May 12 via web Don't know a great deal about him to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Championship team: Kelvin Davis (Southampton), Nathaniel Clyne (Crystal Palace), James Tomkins (West Ham), Curtis Davies (Birmingham), Ian Harte (Reading), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Peter Whittingham (Cardiff), Mark Noble (West Ham), Matt Phillips (Blackpool), Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Jay Rodriguez (Burnley). Team of the year as striker but only joint 9th top scorer. That suggests there's more to his game than just goals... could be an interesting one. Moyes type signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Here is me thinking outside of the box; Jay Rodriguez to replace Tim Cahill? If there is more to this lads games than goals then Jay might play just behind Jelavic feeding him whilst also being able to find the net himself if need be (due to spending the first part of his career as a striker). It really woulden't surprise me if he's brought in to do a Cahill-esqe role within the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK Hegarty could make a move from #Rangers to #Everton in the summer. #spl #efc #football @iKnowTransfers: Everton and Bolton will offer Owen Hargreaves a pay per play contract #EFC #BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Owen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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