Matt Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Atsu would be nuts to go directly to Chelsea. You only have to look at the guys who were highly rated before they went only to have little action onfield. unless he wants a big pay day, in which case its sensible decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Kill your career though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Kill your career though. im sure he'll get over it, you know, with the yacht, Bentley, mansion and enough money to disgust all the people who will pretend to be his friend just so they can live off his riches.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Thats exactly whats wrong with game though isnt it Matt. If you were him what would be your choice? Just a general question? Maybe do a poll? Establish yourself as a good player in Premier league earning 35 to 50k a week with the potential to go onto better things? Or Go to a top 4 side play a handfull of games but never really establish yourself as good enough whilst earning silly money and being at a "glamour club" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) im sure he'll get over it, you know, with the yacht, Bentley, mansion... Sounds like you Matt Wine, Cheese, Mountains, Sauna... Edited August 29, 2013 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Bb122 - honestly I don't know. If I had the chance to play for Everton then it's clear. But players brought in from other places don't seem to have this passion, they are people with skills suited to a craft, like chefs, architects, whatever. If there was never a chance to play for Everton I would take as much cash as I could get. Personally, I don't care about playing for silverware (unless it was Everton, but then I'd spend my career trying to help them win something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 He's signed for Chelsea and they're sending him out on loan immediately to Vitesse. That's a sign of the times, a player who would walk into our team is signed and loaned out by a club who finished three league places above us last year. Romey 1878, Steve_E and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2014/7/19/5918479/chelsea-everton-fc-transfer-rumors-christian-atsu-loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 From SSN's Transfer Centre: Our reporter Dharmesh Sheth tells us Everton could be closing in on the signing of Chelsea winger Christian Atsu on a season-long loan. Believe it or not, but they expect his future to be resolved in the next... 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 From SSN's Transfer Centre: Our reporter Dharmesh Sheth tells us Everton could be closing in on the signing of Chelsea winger Christian Atsu on a season-long loan. Believe it or not, but they expect his future to be resolved in the next... 48 hours. I hope he develops an end product or he's just going to piss me off all season. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 How many "48 hours" can we go through for gods sake! Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 TO be fair, a few sources reporting it now, even one of my favorites FourthOfficial_ , so there could be some truth in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 TO be fair, a few sources reporting it now, even one of my favorites FourthOfficial_ , so there could be some truth in it. All he's done is retweeted the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 All he's done is retweeted the story. Few sources. Read it godamit. I gave one example and you pick holes.... Pedantic prick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 From SSN's Transfer Centre: Our reporter Dharmesh Sheth tells us Everton could be closing in on the signing of Chelsea winger Christian Atsu on a season-long loan. Believe it or not, but they expect his future to be resolved in the next... 48 hours. So he may or may not sign in the next 2-3 weeks is what I'm gathering? Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I hope he develops an end product or he's just going to piss me off all season. I thought he looked very good in the World Cup to be honest. Perhaps a bit wasteful, but there's obviously a lot to work with. He's young. Deulofeu needed to develop an end product as well, Barkley needs to as well. It's to be expected. Haven't seen much of him in Holland last year, but I'm positive he played as more of a box-to-box midfielder than a winger for Vitesse, so he's versatile. They use one holding midfielder (Vejinovic) and two more attacking midfielders in front of him (Atsu and Pröpper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 We're his preferred club according to SSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hope theres an option to buy included. Dont want to develop their players without a chance of capitalising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hope theres an option to buy included. Dont want to develop their players without a chance of capitalising Even if there's not he may get the bug, like many others before him, and make the move anyway. Toffee_in_LA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 So he may or may not sign in the next 2-3 weeks is what I'm gathering? If that is the case the press conference should be starting shortly Steve_E, Toffee_in_LA, StevO and 8 others 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 It's likely he'll join us on loan. Ghana Soccernet (seriously) says so, they have good contacts. Edit: And another Ghanaian source: http://sportsxtra.com.gh/exclusive-chrisian-atsu-joins-everton-on-loan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 http://sportsxtra.com.gh/exclusive-chrisian-atsu-joins-everton-on-loan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'll be happy if he comes here, I rate the lad. I'd hope there would be an option to buy at the end of the season like the Bertrand deal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Minimum risk, and might turn out to be ok. Go for it on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 SSN reporting just now that his representatives are in "ongoing dialogue" with Bill Kenright and the player is training in London at Chelsea's training ground waiting for the green light. They reckon it could be done by the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'd be pleased with this. I hope they put an option to buy in it , as can't be doing with another Lukaku-gate next summer if he's a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Rumour it's loan to buy £6.5m Howardshands and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Rumour it's loan to buy £6.5m I'd be delighted with that, I rate Atsu so if as I suspect he does well we 're guaranteed him if we and the plater both want it if not he gets launched back down the m6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Rumour it's loan to buy £6.5m hell yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Rumour it's loan to buy £6.5m Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 They only paid 3.5 for him like so could be a goer I suppose. Wise move to get him on loan with a view to buy first though so we can have a look. I'd be fucking thrilled with this, I really like the lad. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'd be surprised if they put the option to buy fee so low, pleasantly surprised of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Even if they put it at 7 they would have doubled their money on a player they don't want (if they want rid like) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Even if they put it at 7 they would have doubled their money on a player they don't want (if they want rid like) True but it's not like he's tried and failed to make it in the PL, so if he has a blinder next season they'll risk losing a player for 6.5m who might be worth double that in todays crazy market. Got to ignore what you paid for someone when considering what they might be worth (Coleman, etc). All that being said, 6 or 7m might be fair enough for him, I've not seen him play enough to judge I was just surprised that a proposed fee would be set before he's even had a kick in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The exact type of signing Mark will hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 True but it's not like he's tried and failed to make it in the PL, so if he has a blinder next season they'll risk losing a player for 6.5m who might be worth double that in todays crazy market. Got to ignore what you paid for someone when considering what they might be worth (Coleman, etc). All that being said, 6 or 7m might be fair enough for him, I've not seen him play enough to judge I was just surprised that a proposed fee would be set before he's even had a kick in this league. To be honest mate, I agree . I was surprised when someone said there was going to be an option to buy on it but if there is, something has to be written in to the deal before it goes ahead. I'm not even sure if Jose signed him or another manager. If he didn't and doesn't fancy him (as we know he can do) then to double their money isn't a bad deal regardless of how he does. Either way it's a gamble. I'll be surprised if an option to biy is put in it I think it'll be a straight loan. Even if Jose isn't overly keen he'd be a fool not to just loan him at first and take a look at how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The exact type of signing Mark will hate. I've already said if he doesn't have an end product he's just going to piss me off. And if the WC's anything to go by then that's exactly how it's going to be - loads of pace but no brains to be found anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I've already said if he doesn't have an end product he's just going to piss me off. And if the WC's anything to go by then that's exactly how it's going to be - loads of pace but no brains to be found anywhere. He is that at the minute. Certainly not the finished article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I've already said if he doesn't have an end product he's just going to piss me off. And if the WC's anything to go by then that's exactly how it's going to be - loads of pace but no brains to be found anywhere. Don't worry. He'll be gone half the season with the African Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 He is that at the minute. Certainly not the finished article. At least he looks like he can actually beat men with ease. A big peeve of mine is a winger that just runs into his man but he doesn't seem to do that often, thankfully! Don't worry. He'll be gone half the season with the African Cup. I'd forgot all about that. Not the best sort of player to bring in on a season-long loan then really. Same goes for Traore (if that happens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Don't worry. He'll be gone half the season with the African Cup. I hadn't thought of this. Seems a strange move for a loan player now this doesn't it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I hadn't thought of this. Seems a strange move for a loan player now this doesn't it! The African Cup of Nations lasts from January 17th to February 8th. Not as big of a deal as some make it. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The African Cup of Nations lasts from January 17th to February 8th. Not as big of a deal as some make it. Yes and it comes at a really crucial stage of the season. FA Cup time and (hopefully) when the Europa League kicks in plus straight after the busy Christmas period and at that time of the season when players are starting to get tired or little niggles. Still if Martinez thinks it's the right player who am I to argue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The African Cup of Nations lasts from January 17th to February 8th. Not as big of a deal as some make it. I always feel like the month following the second half is a critical part of the season. Claiming half a season out is an exaggeration, but you still lose a player across a number of matches. Hurts your depth and in the case does so at a position we're explicitly trying to strengthen. You're right though. Not the end of the world or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The African Cup of Nations lasts from January 17th to February 8th. Not as big of a deal as some make it. So four weeks tops and less if that team fails to make the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 So four weeks tops and less if that team fails to make the finals. Pretty sure the countries are allowed to call the players up 2 weeks before the competition starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Usually it's the monday preceding the week that the competition begins which would be the 5th January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Vitesse fan on a Dutch football forum I frequent says he was their best player in the second half of the season. Here's some high lights: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Vitesse fan on a Dutch football forum I frequent says he was their best player in the second half of the season. He says he mainly played on the left of a three man midfield and on the right wing and that he particularly excelled on the right wing from where he can come inside on his left foot and try to link up. Says he's got very good close control which allows him to shine when space is limited. Says his pace is rather average, no Walcott or Lennon. Says that what needs work is his crossing (despite his inswinging corners being very good generally) and decision making as he has a tendency to shoot when there might be better options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 How us he at cutting the ball back on the floor from out wide? Roberto seems to prefer that to high crosses. Looks handy this lad anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Think he will be a bit of Royston Drenthe. Not a bad thing I suppose he was explosive sometimes. Another good option in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 According to one report, "Everton lead the race [for Christian Atsu] because the £28m move of Romelu Lukaku to Goodison Park also allows Roberto Martinez to take one more Chelsea player on loan." This makes the deal for Lukaku look even sweeter; included is the loan of one other Chelsea player. Matt and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 According to one report, "Everton lead the race [for Christian Atsu] because the £28m move of Romelu Lukaku to Goodison Park also allows Roberto Martinez to take one more Chelsea player on loan." This makes the deal for Lukaku look even sweeter; included is the loan of one other Chelsea player. In that case I think he should go for Hazard Steve_E, Quinn31 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'll take Oscar as long as they pay his wages and there is an option to buy if we like him. Steve_E and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-can-everton-fc-expect-7551035 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 ""But if a deal can be brokered over the next 48 hours, just what are Everton supporters in store for when the season begins on August 16?"" I've heard about that 48 hours before somewhere. :dont know: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 ""But if a deal can be brokered over the next 48 hours, just what are Everton supporters in store for when the season begins on August 16?"" I've heard about that 48 hours before somewhere. :dont know: If I hear 48 hours again I'm going to jump off a bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 If I hear 48 hours again I'm going to jump off a bridge. Right away or only after thinking about it for 48 hours? Sibdane, MikeO and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I read yesterday that the hold-up is that the clubs can't agree on who pays his wages if he's called up for the ACON, but today's Daily Mail says the point of disagreement is that Chelsea want guarantees about the amount of football he'll get, which we're not prepared to give (quite right too): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2715460/Christian-Atsu-s-loan-Everton-hits-snag-Chelsea-Chelsea-want-assurances-winger-play.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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