Romey 1878 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I read yesterday that the hold-up is that the clubs can't agree on who pays his wages if he's called up for the ACON, but today's Daily Mail says the point of disagreement is that Chelsea want guarantees about the amount of football he'll get, which we're not prepared to give (quite right too): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2715460/Christian-Atsu-s-loan-Everton-hits-snag-Chelsea-Chelsea-want-assurances-winger-play.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 If that's the case then it must've been bullshit that there was a fee agreed for the end of the loan, because it sounds as though they want him out on loan to bring him back into their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I've got a good feeling about this one being completed this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Cant do this deal if a January recall if not played enough games in the contract. Can you imagine Chelsea not using it as an excuse to recall if we are right on their tails come January! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm not really arsed if this had fallen through. I wasn't thrilled about it in the first place. Martinez will come up with something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Atsu would have had a similar role to Gerry. Where he could have been an impact player coming off the bench. Atsu wasn't going to start ahead of Mirallas or Pienaar. Even McGeady for that matter. Atsu would have been good to come on late in the second half. His pace would have gave defenders a problem but not to ar$ed if this doesn't come through, we will find somebody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I was quite excited about him joining personally. Someone mentioned Johnson in another thread. I think we should go and get him. Adam Johnson looks a real player on his day and think he could develop into a top top player under the guidance of Roberto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Atsu would have had a similar role to Gerry. Where he could have been an impact player coming off the bench. Atsu wasn't going to start ahead of Mirallas or Pienaar. Even McGeady for that matter. Atsu would have been good to come on late in the second half. His pace would have gave defenders a problem but not to ar$ed if this doesn't come through, we will find somebody else. I think McGeady is ahead of Pienaar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 i also think mgeady is ahead of pienaar. steven slows play down too much. Very intelligent player but just think mgeady is unique in the PL. Not many wingers left that stand in front of the full back and so easily bypasses them. Will have a good season I think given the chance. Peter H and FC Clutch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 If mcgeady could put in 70 mins of the play he had in the last ten mins against Porto then he would be a success. However if he played like the first 80 then he will be sold January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Mcgeady has a lot to prove. Ain't done it for me to be ahead of Pienaar MikeO and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 If mcgeady could put in 70 mins of the play he had in the last ten mins against Porto then he would be a success. However if he played like the first 80 then he will be sold January. Said it from the start 20 minute player... That's not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardshands Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I haven't seen mcgeady play well any time that I've watched him. He puts in a lot of effort which I appreciate, but I wouldn't put him ahead of pienaar from what I've seen. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 i also think mgeady is ahead of pienaar. steven slows play down too much. Very intelligent player but just think mgeady is unique in the PL. Not many wingers left that stand in front of the full back and so easily bypasses them. Will have a good season I think given the chance. I'd agree for the most part, but thinking Pienaar should be competition now for that behind-the-striker role alongside Naismith and Barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Ye we need Pienaar on the pitch at the moment while Barkley progresses. With neither of them on the pitch we really struggle to create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Pienaar was shit against Porto as well. Really don't think he's going to be anywhere near the player we've seen in recent years tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Pienaar was shit against Porto as well. Really don't think he's going to be anywhere near the player we've seen in recent years tbh. Thats how I feel. Love peanuts but he is not the same player anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Said it for a while now, just dont see him being that effective anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Said it for a while now, just dont see him being that effective anymore. I do in this quick passing possession game, just not on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Pienaar was shit against Porto as well. Really don't think he's going to be anywhere near the player we've seen in recent years tbh. I don't think anything can be read into pre-season games. Players want to avoid injury and get through games - it's a fitness/sharpness exercise. Porto were clearly further through their pre-season with an upcoming champs league qualifier for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I don't think anything can be read into pre-season games. Players want to avoid injury and get through games - it's a fitness/sharpness exercise. Porto were clearly further through their pre-season with an upcoming champs league qualifier for them. I thought it last season as well. Think he's fell off the edge of a cliff in terms of effectiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) I don't think anything can be read into pre-season games. Players want to avoid injury and get through games - it's a fitness/sharpness exercise. Porto were clearly further through their pre-season with an upcoming champs league qualifier for them. Exactly, nothing can be really be said about the pre-season games! Pienaar will start for Everton come the start of the season. Lamela from Spurs has had an outstanding pre-season, doesn't mean he will cut it in the premier league. Anyway going back on to the discussion at hand.... I can see Atsu going somewhere like Villa or West Ham. They have been linked with him and Villa need a winger with pace, someone who can keep up with Agbonlahor and big Benteke. At a team like Villa, Lambert could guarantee him games. At Everton all we can offer him is a impact sub. Edited August 6, 2014 by bluenosetoffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Everything I've read points to this one breaking down since we couldn't agree to Chelsea's terms. Not too bothered by that tbh. Just hope we do get a new left winger in before the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I am desperate for us to get Milner. Such a versatile player and would form a great partnership down the left with Baines as Milner will defend enabling use to utilise Baines more. Milner also has lots of experience and already knows a lot of our boys from England. No brainier to me. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I am desperate for us to get Milner. Such a versatile player and would form a great partnership down the left with Baines as Milner will defend enabling use to utilise Baines more. Milner also has lots of experience and already knows a lot of our boys from England. No brainier to me. Agreed, I'd throw what cash we have left at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Milner is a solid player, but I would still like to see someone with a bit more creativity. Someone who can manuever up the pitch and work in tight spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Milner is a solid player, but I would still like to see someone with a bit more creativity. Someone who can manuever up the pitch and work in tight spaces. Milner can do that he has got great footwork. He just doesn't come with that whole 'hands on hips I'm not defending I do step overs' attitude. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Milner would be a huge signing. Unfortunately a loan deal would bd our only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Milner would be a huge signing. Unfortunately a loan deal would bd our only hope. loan to sign like Barry, he's in his last year of contract. I'd take that all day long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 loan to sign like Barry, he's in his last year of contract. I'd take that all day long! So would I. Unfortunately I just can't see him coming to us. I think he'll hsve better offers than us on his table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I think he'd come here. I don't think City would loan him to us though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Sky Sports understands Chelsea winger Christian Atsu is set to a make a decision on his future in the next 24 hours. Chelsea are happy to let Atsu go out on loan this season and the Ghana international is weighing up offers from the likes of Everton, Swansea, West Bromand QPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-win-race-christian-atsu-4023641 not sure how reliable the mirror is - but says a deals been sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-win-race-christian-atsu-4023641 not sure how reliable the mirror is - but says a deals been sorted out. The Mirror sold Baines to United about 5 times, Barkley was definitely signing for Chelsea, same for Stones, and Coleman to Arsenal was a done deal... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 It 's not just the mirror to be fair. I don't believe a single word printed in any of the rags. They just make it up as they go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) http://www.evertonnews.org/evertons-exciting-summer-continues-with-toffees-set-to-confirm-arrival-of-chelsea-youngster-christian-atsu/client/ Edited August 8, 2014 by mogsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) This lad on loan with a view for a permanent deal and Ben Arfa and I'd be absolutely made up Edited August 8, 2014 by EFC-Paul Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prevenger17 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-win-race-christian-atsu-4023641 not sure how reliable the mirror is - but says a deals been sorted out. Somewhere in the region of absolute zero, I believe. bluenosetoffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The general consensus is that this has been sorted and will be announced at some point today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 It's just been on Sky ghat Chelsea have pulled the plug on us and he's to decide between Swansea, QPR and West Brom and definately not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prevenger17 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The general consensus is that this has been sorted and will be announced at some point today. The chief source is still the Mirror so I'm going to remain skeptical until it's done. If their reports were 100% accurate this year, our squad would be Leon Osman and a ragtag squad of windpeople and the reserves that Martin Lipton hasn't heard of yet. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 so in the last 2 hours its gone from maybe, to definitely, to not at all I hate the transfer window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 It's just been on Sky ghat Chelsea have pulled the plug on us and he's to decide between Swansea, QPR and West Brom and definately not us. While other sources are saying he's travelling to FF for his medical today. Best to not believe any story and just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 While other sources are saying he's travelling to FF for his medical today. Best to not believe any story and just wait and see. The Mirror is a rag I wouldn't believe anything written in it. Sky don't get much right either to be fair . One minute their sources understand this then their sources were told that but now this is happening. I don't think any of the crabs have the slightest idea what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The Mirror is a rag I wouldn't believe anything written in it. Sky don't get much right either to be fair . One minute their sources understand this then their sources were told that but now this is happening. I don't think any of the crabs have the slightest idea what they're talking about. It wasn't The Mirror where I heard about the medical. Agreed. Like I said, best to not believe any story and just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 For what it's worth, Paddock, I'm leaning toward it being a goer and Sky being wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Rather Ben Arfa all day long. duncanmckenzieismagic and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Rather Ben Arfa all day long. With Atsu being a loan there'd be no reason not to go for both. Lowensda, duncanmckenzieismagic and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 With Atsu being a loan there'd be no reason not to go for both. agreed, especially considering the fee being touted for Ben Arfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I read ben arfa is on £60k at Newcastle. Have we got room for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 With Atsu being a loan there'd be no reason not to go for both. If Ben Arfa is available for 3 million then I would definitely bring in both. This is going to be a defining season for us, we are going to need a quality squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 For what it's worth, Paddock, I'm leaning toward it being a goer and Sky being wrong. Only time will tell I suppose . I hope you're right though I think he'll do a job here for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Shame they couldnt of sorted this before te squad jetted off to germany so he could have went with them ... If it has come off il be happy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 With Atsu being a loan there'd be no reason not to go for both. Can you imagine if we got both??!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Can you imagine if we got both??!!!! Wankfest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Wankfest . too fuckin right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I spoke to a Newcastle fan about Ben Are a and he wasn't exactly complementary. He is a highlights player, a guy who shows up for 10 mins in a game then goes missing for 80. He isn't the fittest either apparently and generally I'm not sure he would fit in with the group.certainly a talent on his day mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I spoke to a Newcastle fan about Ben Are a and he wasn't exactly complementary. He is a highlights player, a guy who shows up for 10 mins in a game then goes missing for 80. He isn't the fittest either apparently and generally I'm not sure he would fit in with the group.certainly a talent on his day mind you. He'd fit the Gerry hole perfectly then Edited August 8, 2014 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 https://twitter.com/gregok/status/497718468184387584 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Having a medical at FF now according to SKY... MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Having a medical at FF now according to SKY... "It's definitely off, but he's currently having a medical at FF." - Sky thoward18 and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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