Lowensda Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 "It's definitely off, but he's currently having a medical at FF." - Sky Aha, ridiculous isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 16:20 Sky Sports understands Christian Atsu has agreed to join Everton on season-long loan. Everton have been leading the chase for the Ghana international after holding talks with the player earlier this month, but the deal stalled because the player could not be guaranteed regular first-team football. However, those problems have been ironed out and Atsu is set to become the latest new face at Goodison Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 16:20 Sky Sports understands Christian Atsu has agreed to join Everton on season-long loan. Everton have been leading the chase for the Ghana international after holding talks with the player earlier this month, but the deal stalled because the player could not be guaranteed regular first-team football. However, those problems have been ironed out and Atsu is set to become the latest new face at Goodison Park. I just don't buy that. Don't believe any club could possibly guarantee that any loan player would be a regular selection regardless of form/fitness. Nobody should have to give that assurance and I think it's daft for a host club to ask for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I just don't buy that. Don't believe any club could possibly guarantee that any loan player would be a regular selection regardless of form/fitness. Nobody should have to give that assurance and I think it's daft for a host club to ask for it. I don't know if the story about his guarantee of playing time is bullshit or not. But, if it isn't, it's probably something along like what we had with Deulofeu, where our loan fee to the club changed in accordance with the number of appearances he made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I just don't buy that. Don't believe any club could possibly guarantee that any loan player would be a regular selection regardless of form/fitness. Nobody should have to give that assurance and I think it's daft for a host club to ask for it. I don't think they mean like that. I mean, I don't think anyone is guaranteeing James McCarthy anything REGARDLESS of performance/fitness. That being said, the reasonable expectation is he will start the majority of games. I don't think Chelsea/Atsu are demanding something no matter what, but rather they're asking Martinez what role they envision he will have. Consistent first-team? Rotation? Backup? Nobody is going to guarantee him playing time no matter what, but a team like Leicester or Hull would probably use him more than, let's say, Real Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Id think it would be the player rather than Chelsea as ive read that we will have an option to buy for £6.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 From Greg O'Keefe: @GregOK: A swift resolution! #Everton have agreed a deal for Christian Atsu on loan from #Chelsea, subject to a medical early next week. #EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Well done Romney mate, looks like your info was spot on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardshands Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 :jump for joy: :jump for joy: :jump for joy: I can smell the incoming success of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Looks like this one is all but done. I'm happy with it, and I'm hoping that it's a loan-to-buy option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 This is great and it looks like another great transfer window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hopefully this is official soon. I still fear Chelsea might prefer him to go to one of the other English teams interested in him, some place where they have less (or simply lesser) established wingers as he might get more opportunities to showcase his abilities there which would inflate his price more come next summer. Don't think Chelsea will allow an option to buy, but obviously that won't mean we can't buy him anyway if he impresses. I don't think he's ever going to feature for Chelsea, but just having him perform for a Premier League team means they'll be able to squeeze more money out of suitors next summer. By all accounts, Atsu himself really wants to join us rather than those other teams which I like obviously and it probably is a good sign in case we want to sign him permanently next summer. Nice mix in styles in our wide men if this would happen. Pienaar is more of a playmaker on the left wing. Mirallas is more of a direct player on the left wing, more of a goal scoring inverted winger, who I think has been limited a bit by playing on the right which forces him into the role of a crosser more. McGeady is a direct player, but of the traditional kind that gets chalk on his boots and beats his full back to whip the ball into the box. Atsu is the first left-footed player and likes to play in that inside right area, similar to Pienaar but on the other side of the pitch. Mirallas, McGeady and Atsu can play on the other wing as well. Now on to a centre forward! Romey 1878, Toffee_in_LA, Elston Gunnn and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Clutch Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 If the whole bit about agreeing to play time is true then wouldn't that conflict with a loan to buy option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Awesome. Bill kenwrights good relationship with Chelsea another swinging deal. Hope we can buy an does well. What a window so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 @FourthOfficial_: A loan deal for Christian Atsu will be confirmed on Wednesday, pending a successful work permit application #EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 @FourthOfficial_: A loan deal for Christian Atsu will be confirmed on Wednesday, pending a successful work permit application #EFC The dreaded work permit... Hold on to your hats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 10, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The dreaded work permit... Hold on to your hats! Nah work permits are not a problem for Everton , we can even get them for players we haven't signed bluenosetoffee, thoward18, Toffee_in_LA and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The dreaded work permit... Hold on to your hats! He plays for Chelsea in the UK, why would we need to get a work permit? Sometimes the English law amazes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zequist Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 He plays for Chelsea in the UK, why would we need to get a work permit? Sometimes the English law amazes me. Non-EU players need work permit approval every time they change clubs, even if it's within the same league. Seems like overkill to me, but whatever. Atsu's had 26 caps over the last couple of years, so there shouldn't be any issues with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Non-EU players need work permit approval every time they change clubs, even if it's within the same league. Seems like overkill to me, but whatever. Atsu's had 26 caps over the last couple of years, so there shouldn't be any issues with him. Precisely, loads of red tape costing loads of money, he already has a work permit to play for Chelsea so they aren't going to refuse us are they. Fucking ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Agree with Paddock it's difficult to understand as he already has permission to work in this country. Why would it matter who he played for. He can legally work in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I assume it would be because Chelsea were his sponsors. If he is not employed by them over the period of the loan, he needs a new sponsor and has to go through the process again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Don't Chelsea continue to be his sponsors? This is a loan deal, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 No idea but he obviously needs one as he 's going to apply for it. Utterly ridiculous piece of red tape. They should write a book on how to make an easy job hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Permit hearing today, wonder when we'll get confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddock Posted August 11, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Permit hearing today, wonder when we'll get confirmation. 48 hours? Hoof_It_Nev, bluenosetoffee, chicagoblue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 So if he gets denied a work permit, implying that he's not viewed as a good enough talent to be employed in England, then he'll have to return to Chelsea. In England. What a fucking stupid system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 So if he gets denied a work permit, implying that he's not viewed as a good enough talent to be employed in England, then he'll have to return to Chelsea. In England. What a fucking stupid system. Welcome to the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 So if he gets denied a work permit, implying that he's not viewed as a good enough talent to be employed in England, then he'll have to return to Chelsea. In England. What a fucking stupid system. It's done on international appearances over a certain period. I pressume he's played most of Ghana's recent internationals so it'll be a formality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Wait a minute has he even had permission to join Chelsea? Maybe that's part of the reason why he was loaned out last season? They did the same with Alex from PSV didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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