java2001e Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 pathetic is the polite term for that apalling mess in front of the portugal goal. these guys are paid millions and they can't even score a penalty. that display against portugal was simply a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 It's because they were tired...Peter Crouch said so poor little lambs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather_6 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 how was jamie carragher tired, he was on for about 3 minutes!!! he missed hes got no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 be fair with carrager tho he was cheated out of his pen. he scored. ricardo knew he wasnt gonna get it so he stuck up his arms when carrager jicked the ball and the ref fell for it. so carrager had to take it again therefore missing it but lampard and gerrard have no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Pat thinks it is more an "Attitude" rather than total ability to be a succesful penalty taker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 It was pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 be fair with carrager tho he was cheated out of his pen. he scored. ricardo knew he wasnt gonna get it so he stuck up his arms when carrager jicked the ball and the ref fell for it. so carrager had to take it again therefore missing it but lampard and gerrard have no excuse. 36712[/snapback] He was not cheated out of it all, you have to wait for the whistle before taking the penalty, Carragher didnt wait so i dont see how he was cheated out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavier Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 You cant blame the penalty takers for having a bad day. Ricardo did pull out some decent saves. Its not quality but pressure which plays a big role in taking penalties. You need to have the guts to take them and hope that they go in. The game should have been wrapped up before penalties in all fairness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Is that because two liverpool players missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Pat thinks it is more an "Attitude" rather than total ability to be a succesful penalty taker. 36717[/snapback] I aggree, why have england not empoyed psychologists and mental coaching techniques and FOOKING JUST PRACTICE Is that because two liverpool players missed? 36777[/snapback] CORRECTAMUNDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I aggree, why have england not empoyed psychologists and mental coaching techniques and FOOKING JUST PRACTICECORRECTAMUNDO 36786[/snapback] They practiced every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 i agree its pathetic how much money do they want, and they can't score a few pens i mean come on, whats the obsession of side footing the ball at the keeper, if you're not good enuff to do that and hit the side netting, which obviously they're not, then stick it higher nobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 funny how lampard and gerrard score their club pens but not england 1's. but credit to ricardo who did save them well, nearly got zidanes aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavier Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Is that because two liverpool players missed? 36777[/snapback] I dont even blame Lampard for missing ther pen. Its a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I dont even blame Lampard for missing ther pen. Its a lottery. 36842[/snapback] Surely not Xav, they are professional footballers who earn their living putting that ball in the back of the net. Pick your spot - concentrate - and f*cking welly it. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 They should take tips off Unsworth ^^^ That point goes to show that it doesnt go on the quality of the player, personally i wont have a go at them for missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 They should take tips off Unsworth ^^^ That point goes to show that it doesnt go on the quality of the player, personally i wont have a go at them for missing 36855[/snapback] heres a tip pick your spot then place the ball in the net where you have chosen ive never missed one and i dont get 60,000 plus a week no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 (edited) Do you have the hopes of a nation on your shoulders when you take a penalty? Do you have 50,000 people watching your penalty? Do have a semi final place of the world cup dependent on you scoring your penalty? No i didnt think so. Get a bit of perspective, ive never missed a penalty either but i wouldnt compare it to what the England players went through against Portugal. Edited July 8, 2006 by EFCfan2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 heres a tip pick your spot then place the ball in the net where you have chosen ive never missed one and i dont get 60,000 plus a week no excuse 36883[/snapback] Ola, totally with you there mate, I don't do the penalty thing, someone had to stay back. Do you have the hopes of a nation on your shoulders when you take a penalty? Do you have 50,000 people watching your penalty? Do have a semi final place of the world cup dependent on you scoring your penalty? No i didnt think so. 36886[/snapback] Pressure is a factor Mark, but when you have your own pride on the line, the odds are in the favour of the taker, for so many big players to bottle it was unacceptable. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Pressure is a factor Mark, but when you have your own pride on the line, the odds are in the favour of the taker, for so many big players to bottle it was unacceptable. ATB Mac 36891[/snapback] I think we should agree to disagree Mac. Im not saying its acceptable just that i wont blame them as none of us can even contemplate what it feels like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I think we should agree to disagree Mac. Im not saying its acceptable just that i wont blame them as none of us can even contemplate what it feels like 36893[/snapback] Fair one Mark and by the same token I would never "blame" any player for missing a pen (Waddle, Pierce, Southgate all spring to mind). I do however reserve the right to question their bottle. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Fair one Mark and by the same token I would never "blame" any player for missing a pen (Waddle, Pierce, Southgate all spring to mind). I do however reserve the right to question their bottle.ATB Mac 36895[/snapback] Thats fair enough. Would you have had the bottle in their position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Hell no, but I'm a social worker, not a footballer. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Hell no, but I'm a social worker, not a footballer. ATB Mac 36897[/snapback] I doubt id be able to either but id certainly try my best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted July 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 "Its not quality but pressure which plays a big role in taking penalties. You need to have the guts to take them and hope that they go in."... "taking a penalty is a lottery". ive never read so many pathetic excueses for these useless wankers (can i say wankers on tt?), they were crap. 'the pressure' thats a joke. these guys are trained to cope and perform under 'pressure'. they do it every week in the premiership! anyway, what pressure there is all on the goalie. as for taking a penalty being a lottery it isnt. its much easier. a decent player should have at least a 95% chance of scoring a penalty. whats his chances of winning a lottery? with these idiots, zero. they wouldnt be able to find a pen to fill in the form. thats if they could remember were they put the form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 "Its not quality but pressure which plays a big role in taking penalties. You need to have the guts to take them and hope that they go in."... "taking a penalty is a lottery". ive never read so many pathetic excueses for these useless wankers (can i say wankers on tt?), they were crap. 'the pressure' thats a joke. these guys are trained to cope and perform under 'pressure'. they do it every week in the premiership! anyway, what pressure there is all on the goalie. as for taking a penalty being a lottery it isnt. its much easier. a decent player should have at least a 95% chance of scoring a penalty. whats his chances of winning a lottery? with these idiots, zero. they wouldnt be able to find a pen to fill in the form. thats if they could remember were they put the form! 36992[/snapback] well said, and totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 "Its not quality but pressure which plays a big role in taking penalties. You need to have the guts to take them and hope that they go in."... "taking a penalty is a lottery". ive never read so many pathetic excueses for these useless wankers (can i say wankers on tt?), they were crap. 'the pressure' thats a joke. these guys are trained to cope and perform under 'pressure'. they do it every week in the premiership! anyway, what pressure there is all on the goalie. as for taking a penalty being a lottery it isnt. its much easier. a decent player should have at least a 95% chance of scoring a penalty. whats his chances of winning a lottery? with these idiots, zero. they wouldnt be able to find a pen to fill in the form. thats if they could remember were they put the form! 36992[/snapback] There isnt really much pressure on a goalie as they are not expected to save penalties, the pressure is on the players as people see penalty taking as "easy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 There isnt really much pressure on a goalie as they are not expected to save penalties, the pressure is on the players as people see penalty taking as "easy" 37064[/snapback] you only put pressure on yourself, its called self belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 After another viewing, alarmingly I felt Robinson looked more clueless than the pen takers. He got near little & didnt ever look like it & his body language was all wrong...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 pressure? go get a HIV test, thats pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 After another viewing, alarmingly I felt Robinson looked more clueless than the pen takers. He got near little & didnt ever look like it & his body language was all wrong...!!! 37375[/snapback] In my opinion Robinson is a shite goalkeeper, he makes me nervous everytime the ball goes near him, a bit like Dicky Wright really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 prehaps thats part of the english specification of goalkeeping. havnt a clue. martyn would have been a better candidate the fatty robbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I think Robinson is a quality kepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Robinson is the best we have, unfortunately. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcssl Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I know that Carragher was only on for a matter of minutes... however, practising penalties on the training ground with fresh legs is one thing, but taking penalties under pressure after 120 minutes is a completely different thing. I think that the psychology has a lot to do with it, as well as a good level of arogance of many of the players. Its the same old story, which is not acceptable, especially since the likes of Germany have not missed a penalty since 1982 prior to this world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 taking penalties is a skill. just like passing the ball, corners, throw ins, free kicks, heading etc. the only difference is that taking penalties is EASIER. like all footballing skills you practice them until you are good at them. look at the italians and the french in the final. after 120 minutes, NO PROBLEM. and thats the way penalties are taken by trained professionals. not the useless multi-millionaire wankers we employed for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather_6 Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 hmmm Gerrard missed! He would have never done that against Everton though would he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted August 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 hmmm Gerrard missed! He would have never done that against Everton though would he! 44073[/snapback] gerrard, carragher, and lampard. remember those names. they may well have cost us the world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 they did along with shrek. they cost us the game and the world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 they did along with shrek. they cost us the game and the world cup. 44284[/snapback] overpaid load of bottlers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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