duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/17/young-lions-call-for-six Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzp7zy Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Whisper it Dunc, there'll be some on here who want to believe Everton don't have a successful youth policy!! Quinn31 and Peter H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Six in the provisional squad, plus Eric Dier who was on loan a while ago. From an Evertonian point of view, the U20 World Cup is more interesting than the Euro U21 competition. Every other confederation bar UEFA use their U20 Championship to qualify for the World Cup, UEFA uses U19 and there's no point to the U21 competition unless it's an Olympic year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 So how many youth players have made it into the first team in the last however many years? This is brill news for the club, I just hope they don't slip through the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 So how many youth players have made it into the first team in the last however many years? This is brill news for the club, I just hope they don't slip through the net. Less of that! Moyes brought plenty of youth through and managed them perfectly by all accounts! Are we any closer on finding that sarcasm font? Bailey and Iamryanstover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzp7zy Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 So how many youth players have made it into the first team in the last however many years? This is brill news for the club, I just hope they don't slip through the net. Don't just concentrate on players who have 'made it' but look at players who have also gone on to play at other clubs - that is also a measure of success for the academy (not necessarily Moyes). Current 1st team squad : Anichebe, Osman, Hibbert, Barkley, Duffy Current academy grads who have made the 1st team squad : McAleny, Garbutt, Bidwell, Taudul (pre-season), Stones, Kennedy, Springthorpe Expect to feature : Lundstram, Hamar, Green Players who have come thru the academy and moved elsewhere : Rooney, Rodwell, Ruddy, Vaughan, Wallace, Forshaw, Baxter All of these players will make a living from playing football and that is also a measure of success for our youth development. If you can bring through 1 player per season it will probably pay for the entire academy and the lease on Finch farm - we're already well ahead just on Rooney and Rodwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Take Hamaar off your list, he's leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Better take Ruddy off too. He was 19 when he joined us and had played 40+ games for Cambridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Stones, Kennedy and Duffy aren't academy products either. Just noticed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Stones, Kennedy and Duffy aren't academy products either. Just noticed that. neither was George Green, got him from Bradford didnt we edit: yup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy Edited May 22, 2013 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamryanstover Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Don't just concentrate on players who have 'made it' but look at players who have also gone on to play at other clubs - that is also a measure of success for the academy (not necessarily Moyes). Current 1st team squad : Anichebe, Osman, Hibbert, Barkley, Duffy Current academy grads who have made the 1st team squad : McAleny, Garbutt, Bidwell, Taudul (pre-season), Stones, Kennedy, Springthorpe Expect to feature : Lundstram, Hamar, Green Players who have come thru the academy and moved elsewhere : Rooney, Rodwell, Ruddy, Vaughan, Wallace, Forshaw, Baxter All of these players will make a living from playing football and that is also a measure of success for our youth development. If you can bring through 1 player per season it will probably pay for the entire academy and the lease on Finch farm - we're already well ahead just on Rooney and Rodwell. You can also add Hope Akpan. Made several apps for Reading after his January transfer, and will prob end up a Nigerian international. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 And of course the likes of Steven Schumacher, Nick Chadwick, Lee Molyneux, Peter Clarke etc who have all made a respectable career in the Football League. Bet there are loads more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 You can also add Hope Akpan. Made several apps for Reading after his January transfer, and will prob end up a Nigerian international. It'll be a testament to how shit the Nigerian international side is if he does. Iamryanstover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 And of course the likes of Steven Schumacher, Nick Chadwick, Lee Molyneux, Peter Clarke etc who have all made a respectable career in the Football League. Bet there are loads more! Phil Jevons! Incidentally, Schumacher's just been sold by Bury (he was their captain). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamryanstover Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Phil Jevons! Incidentally, Schumacher's just been sold by Bury (he was their captain). If we consider the football league I would guess 20-30 players which is pretty darn good in my mind. Hopefully some of the guys who made the provisional u20 squad will be able to make it for Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Nah, sorry but I view it differently. My view of a successful youth development is how many make it fully into our first team or get sold at a nice whopping figure. I dont think any player is recruited on the first basis that we will give him a career at whatever level...the first basis is always going to be that they will make it for Everton. Thats my view and what I would expect to see if I owned the club. Otherwise, your investing your money for other clubs benefits??? Like in private everyday business, a business trains its staff to be a success within that business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 4 made it, surprised Garbutt has been omitted. @EvertonJohn Stones, Ross Barkley, John Lundstram and Chris Long all in the England Under-20 squad for this summer's World Cup. Well done lads. #EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm looking forward to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I imagine Ross will miss the start of the preseason then as he'll get a late holiday. Shame with a new manager come in but hopefully the tournament will provide him with good experience and he'll be ready to impress when he does come in. Really hoping he can iron out some of the errors he was making in preseason and push on for more first team action. Hopefully Stones can also push on to provide good backup for Coleman next season. Lundstram has also sounded like a good prospect, not the falir of Barkley but sounds like a hard working midfielder who could definitely do a job for us if he can keep progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I imagine Ross will miss the start of the preseason then as he'll get a late holiday. Shame with a new manager come in but hopefully the tournament will provide him with good experience and he'll be ready to impress when he does come in. Really hoping he can iron out some of the errors he was making in preseason and push on for more first team action. Hopefully Stones can also push on to provide good backup for Coleman next season. Lundstram has also sounded like a good prospect, not the falir of Barkley but sounds like a hard working midfielder who could definitely do a job for us if he can keep progressing. Martinez wanted to sign Stones at Wigan, didn't he? He probably already likes him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hopefully Stones can also push on to provide good backup for Coleman next season. Dn't exclude the possibility of having both on the pitch at the same time. Coleman is a complete right winger, not just RB. Stones can play at RB and Coleman on the right wing midfield. I coud honestly see that happen if EFC don't buy a new winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Dn't exclude the possibility of having both on the pitch at the same time. Coleman is a complete right winger, not just RB. Stones can play at RB and Coleman on the right wing midfield. I coud honestly see that happen if EFC don't buy a new winger. Coleman on the wing didn't really work last season. He doesn't have the skill imo. I could see Stones turning out to be a centre back though. pete0, Bailey and Iamryanstover 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamryanstover Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Coleman on the wing didn't really work last season. He doesn't have the skill imo. I could see Stones turning out to be a centre back though. Agree on both. Stones is a pretty large lad, and Coleman lacks the skill to be a top winger, but just enough to develop into a top fullback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I'd agree, after Coleman's first season where his unorthodox attacking play worked pretty well he was found out the following season. He has now improved his defending and is doing a good job at right back. the way he gets forward suits right back a lot more than right winger, he crosses well, charges at people well and gets himself in positions to receive the ball and cross but skill wise he's not really good enough to hold the ball on the wing like i'd expect from a decent winger. I'm happy to have the 2 of them battling for a place and like has been suggested of Stones for centre back, maybe under the 3 defender tactics he might get a right side of centre role. either way, I'll be happy once i've seen Stones play and can vouche for him being good enough to compete for a role in the starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzp7zy Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Nah, sorry but I view it differently. My view of a successful youth development is how many make it fully into our first team or get sold at a nice whopping figure. I dont think any player is recruited on the first basis that we will give him a career at whatever level...the first basis is always going to be that they will make it for Everton. Thats my view and what I would expect to see if I owned the club. Otherwise, your investing your money for other clubs benefits??? Like in private everyday business, a business trains its staff to be a success within that business. Then you'd only have 3 players in your academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ex academy looking for a new club.... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/8753537/Transfer-News-Richard-Dunne-is-looking-for-new-club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 http://www.thefa.com/england/mens-u20s/News/2013/kit-room-chat-garbutt-dier-stones-210613 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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