Refereeing Quiz...

[Matt]

No objections from me Matt.

that'll do me

[rubecula]

Feck, that means if there is a problem it will be "Blame Rubes" time again? :major overreaction alert:

 

Venus get the whip out again *sigh*

[Matt]

[pete0]

1. Book them for monkey business, have a word with the team's captain.

2. Abandon the match, and report the club to the FA.

3. Clap in appreciation of his ingenuity.

[Zoo]

1 - Tell them to stop being bellends and re-take the free-kick.

2 - Swap linesman and report it to the FA.

3 - Book him and award a drop goal.

[Matt]

1 - Tell them to stop being bellends and re-take the free-kick.

2 - Swap linesman and report it to the FA.

3 - Book him and award a drop goal.

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Wrong sport surely?

[Cornish Steve]

Why should the linesman have to be replaced? That sends exactly the wrong message. If the first female "assistant referee" had taken too much flak, surely the answer wouldn't have been to replace her.

 

Incidentally, this is a fun one when playing organized youth sports in the US. The referee can send the guilty spectators from the match location. I've seen the police being called and people carted off before now.

Edited June 29, 2013 by Cornish Steve

[Zoo]

I meant 'resume play from a drop ball' Matt. I was halfway there .

[Matt]

1) It may be a ruse, but it's a half-baked one. Fighting on the field of play is the most obvious form of violent conduct, whether it involves opponents or colleagues. So disallow the goal, show both players a red card, and restart with an indirect free-kick from where the fighting took place

2) Deal with this in stages. First, using your communication system, ask the fourth official to summon the stadium security officer to the technical area. At the next stoppage speak to the officer and ask for extra stewarding on that line and for CCTV to be focused on the area. If the problem continues, you have several options, including simply swapping the two assistants over or even abandoning the match. Either way, report everything that happened to the authorities.

3) You need to be certain here that the lowering of the bar definitely prevented a goal. If you are sure, send the keeper off for denying a goal, and restart with an indirect free kick on the goal area line parallel to the goalline. If not, show the keeper a yellow and restart in the same way.

Next up....

[rubecula]

1. If they don't have enough subs then that is their own fault. The team must decide to either take the player off or not. No sub available they go down a man.

 

2. Abandon, the final two minutes can be played later... or not depending on decision reached off field.

 

3. Refs and asst. refs. are part of the playing surface. If it rebounds off one of them to your advantage then celebrate, if to your disadvantage, commiserations but tough luck. Whatever else it is a goal.

[Cornish Steve]

(3) No goal. The penalty taker cannot kick the ball a second time unless it's been touched by another player.

[Zoo]

1 - He's already been sent off, they must play with 10 men.

2 - Abandon the game, on 88 minutes I think the result would stand though.

3 - Drop ball in line with where the penalty spot is outside of the area.

[Matt]

1) When you dispatched the player/manager to the stands, you should have done so with a red card, making clear he was being dismissed in both his capacity as a manager and as a substitute. He cannot take any further part in the game in any capacity.
2) Stop the game and approach the ground controller and stadium manager, advising them that you are taking the players off and suspending the game temporarily. They will in turn advise the crowd that you are going to wait and see if the fog lifts to allow the match to finish (which has happened for me in the past). But if the fog sits where it is, abandon the game and report what happened to the competition. It is up to them to either order a replay or let the score stand.
3) It's not a goal: the taker has committed an offence by playing the ball a second time without it being touched by an opponent. So restart with an indirect free kick to the defending team from where the offence occurred.

 

and in honour of our new boss....

 

[pete0]

1. Depends whether the match is multi-ball, and the ball is for official use in that game.

2. Drop ball (remember the ball boy at Goodison controlling the ball).

3. Red card and a pen.

[Zoo]

B-B-B-BUMP!

 

[rubecula]

B-B-B-BUMP!

 

 

1) Booking and as it is the second he is sent off.

 

2) Manager sent off. Game continues.

 

3) Penalty, Defender sent off and goalkeeper booked.

[Matt]

1. nothing. unless you saw the player in question taking it off you cannot be sure.

2. Manager sent off, tell the subbing manager to select another player to bring on.

3. Both sent off, both stopped a goal scoring opportunity

[Zoo]

B-B-B-BUMP!

 

 

1) You need to base your decisions on what you or your colleagues have observed – and in this case you did not see the player himself remove his shirt. So call him and his captain together, and inform them both, via a public rebuke, that the behaviour is unacceptable. Make it clear that if there is a repeat, whoever scored the goal will be cautioned. Restart with a kick-off. Thanks to Phil Meier.

2) Quickly control the situation. First, send the home manager from the technical area and tell him he will be reported for his actions. Second, inform the away manager that there are no grounds to abandon the game, but that the incident will be included in your report – authorities may later decide to award his side three points or order a replay. Then, with order restored, play out the remainder of the match.

George Hassett wins the shirt.

3) As the two fouls occur simultaneously, you have a choice here. First signal for a penalty, then deal with the offenders. Both players are guilty of denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, but it was only one opportunity – one goal denied – so only one player is sent off. And, as the defender's challenge was clearly reckless, while the keeper may have been unlucky, the defender is the one who merits the red card most. Thanks to Dermot Drysdale

[bluenosetoffee]

Have a go and answer; What would you do in these situations?

 

1) Book the player and tell the team to take the kick. (Why stop a game because a player is being a child)

2) Book the player and award the team a penalty. If it was going in and he tossed the boot at the ball and it didn't go in then either give the goal or a penalty.

3) Start the next half (I don't know how else you can do it, normally there is a difference between the two twins (Fabio & Rafael) but what else are you supposed to do in that situation when you can't prove anything)

Edited October 7, 2013 by bluenosetoffee

[bluenosetoffee]

B-B-B-BUMP!

 

 

1) Book the player. If he has taken his shirt off then it is a second yellow. It happened against West Ham a couple of years a go now. We were 2-1 up West Ham score and the player runs to the fans takes his shirt off and gets another yellow. Rules are there not to be broken.

2) Stop the game, Ban the manager to the stands. If the substitute is not okay then postpone the game. Only fair really.

3) Red card the defender and yellow card the goalkeeper. If it was a reckless tackle and he was the last man then needs to be sent off. Goalkeeper can't help it if it was his leg.

[Matt]

 

I did say to Zoo I'd keep this up and then failed miserably!

Edited July 11, 2014 by Matt

[MikeO]

What's "keen to avoid an early red card" all about? Surely a red card offence is a red card offence whether it's in the first minute of the game or the last?

[Sibdane]

 

I did say to Zoo I'd keep this up and then failed miserably!

 

1. the player is onside since the defender is no longer in the field of play

2. own goal - player is still red-carded

3. based on the illustration in the picture, play on.

[rubecula]

1/ Player too tired is same as player being injured. He stepped off the field of play for "treatment" and can not return without the ref's permission. Opposing player is therefore offside. Free kick to defence but defender off field of play until allowed back on. Possibly with a warning not to do it again etc etc.

 

2/ Deliberate hand ball is a red card offence. In this case a goal is given and a yellow to the defender.

 

3 Home side can change strip at half time if they are getting confused, other than that play on.

[Matt]

1) The defender is considered to be on the goalline – so the attacker is onside and play continues. When the phase of play is complete, caution the defender for unsporting behaviour (leaving the field of play without permission).

2) His quick thinking has saved him. He has not denied a goal, so there is no red card offence. Award the goal, then show the defender a yellow card for his deliberate hand ball.

3) It goes without saying that this is something that should have been sorted out before kick-off – and teams should definitely not play with the same coloured sleeves due to the problems that can arise when you're trying to judge handballs. As there is now so long until half-time, have a word with the away side's bench, ask them to prepare an alternative strip urgently, then suspend play at the first opportunity to allow for a change. If there's a problem with providing the alternative strip speedily, carry on to half-time, then make the change. But, clearly, the sooner the better..

Dont agree with answer 2. "instinctive" handball is still deliberate, so he should be sent off as well as the goal counting.

[Matt]

[Sibdane]

 

1. Play on if other team has an advantage

2. make him change his socks to match away/home kit -- seems like a kit rule infraction.

3. the team who made the subs forfeits the game as only 3 subs are allowed.

[rubecula]

1/ Judgement call. If treatment is needed stop the game and restart with a drop ball. otherwise play on.

2/ Kit infraction. but only on the socks. send him off field of play to change into correct kit. Possibly a booking offense too. boots are up to him.

3/ Game stopped as soon as infringement is noticed. Abandon game and report incident to FA.

[Oztoffee]

1/ Judgement call. If treatment is needed stop the game and restart with a drop ball. otherwise play on.

2/ Kit infraction. but only on the socks. send him off field of play to change into correct kit. Possibly a booking offense too. boots are up to him.

3/ Game stopped as soon as infringement is noticed. Abandon game and report incident to FA.

I agree with 1/ and 3/. 2/ however is not a bookable offence unless the infraction was meant to deceive, in which case it becomes 'ungentlemanly conduct'. However it would never get to this point in a properly managed game as the infringement would have been picked up at the referee's pre-match kit inspection.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Oztoffee

[Matt]

1) There's no need to stop the game just because they are from the same team. But when the ball is next out of play, you do deal with the injuries differently. Call the physio(s) on, then restart in the usual way with both players still on the pitch. They do not need to go off before the restart as players normally have to – the Laws make clear that this requirement is void when "players from the same team have collided and need immediate attention".

2) There's nothing in the Laws about boot colour – but socks have to comply with the team colours, and he can't mix and match from his side's home and away strips. If the club's strip does feature different coloured socks let him continue. If not, ask him to leave the pitch and replace the one that doesn't comply.

3) A disaster. As only 15 minutes have been played, speak to the offending team's manager and captain and tell them that you are restarting the second half with just the three valid changes and the score reset to what it was at half-time. The original twin can stay on. It's obviously a huge step to take, but you have that power. Your other option is to have the twin removed, and tell them to complete the game with 10 men. Either way, report everything that happened.

[Matt]

[Oztoffee]

1. Definitely a goal. If the ball was fully inflated when the kick was taken the subsequent hitting of the post is immaterial.

2. Yes. It's a non-competitive match and therefore has no set rules other than the the rules of the game.

3. The rules state only that fouls are committed against opponents. However, playing in a reckless manner even if it does not result in a foul is punishable by an indirect free kick to the opposing team from where the offence occurred and a caution to the offending player

[rubecula]

1. Goal. Ball apparently burst by hitting the post, the goalie obviously didn't save it before hand.

2. Pre season? Let them play if they want, let them take pens if they both agree. After all it is stated it is for safety reasons.

3. Two footed challenges are deemed as dangerous play. I am not sure the rules specify that this kind of thing has to be against an opponent. Dangerous play is a punishable offense.

[Matt]

1) It's simple enough: the goalkeeper has failed to save a ball which has hit the post and gone in. He's trying it on. The flight of the ball was not altered by the puncture it sustained on hitting the frame of the goal, so the kick counts and the result stands. The laws are explicit on this sort of scenario: only if the ball had clearly burst after being kicked, but before it hit the post, would you award a retake.

2) No. It's a competitive tournament, and competition rules have to be adhered to. This may not be the World Cup, but it's still important in any competition to make sure everything is fair. If the rules state extra time must be played, then it must be played, but you can, of course, allow water breaks.

3) Play on. You would stop the game only if the defender had been guilty of violent conduct, which is a deliberate act. Fouls are penalised only if committed on opponents, and dangerous play as such is no longer defined in the laws.

[Matt]

[Cornish Steve]

 

(1) Drop ball where the ball was picked up by the assistant ref.

(2) Other than tell him he's an imbecile who doesn't deserve all the money he's paid? Nothing, so long as it doesn't interfere with play.

(3) Play advantage and award the goal.