The All Kenwright/The Board Related Stuff Thread

[Romey 1878]

5 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Just a cunt really. A lego legged, balding, Yorkshire Tea stained toothed cunt.

My kind of person then .

[Matt]

8 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Just a cunt really. A lego legged, balding, Yorkshire Tea stained toothed cunt.

 

 

[Newty82]

51 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

 

You dick!!!

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html

[Romey 1878]

1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html

Hopefully Billy Bullshit doesn't somehow manage to hoodwink another buyer into keeping him around.

[c1982]

I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club  in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea.

 

[Matt]

7 minutes ago, c1982 said:

I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club  in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea.

 

I get more worried for the game, its going to make it even more unbalanced.

[Goodison Glory]

39 minutes ago, c1982 said:

I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club  in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea.

 

A very cursory look suggests those owners are not operating in that way today. Doesn't mean we couldn't offload players but doesn't seem like a strategy between those clubs currently

[Newty82]

3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html

Absolute fuck up.

Basically, before any new owner even starts to look at player purchases, wages etc, they need to splash about £1billion?!

How the fuck have these people managed to fuck this up so bad? And still they stay in their jobs? Deflecting blame to anyone but themselves?

I see a long road ahead.

Minimal player investment (probs a good thing, let's focus more on the youth and plucky bargains rather than cast offs from the 'big' clubs).

I fear whether we'll own our stadium. One way or another, massive funds are going to be raised against it. Don't forget we already don't own our training ground!

Goodison will probably end up sold off rather than the club having and dealings with any redevelopment or sentimental purpose.

Dyche and the players really need to avoid relegation. That would be catastrophic for the clubs already disastrous finances.

[Palfy]

55 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Absolute fuck up.

Basically, before any new owner even starts to look at player purchases, wages etc, they need to splash about £1billion?!

How the fuck have these people managed to fuck this up so bad? And still they stay in their jobs? Deflecting blame to anyone but themselves?

I see a long road ahead.

Minimal player investment (probs a good thing, let's focus more on the youth and plucky bargains rather than cast offs from the 'big' clubs).

I fear whether we'll own our stadium. One way or another, massive funds are going to be raised against it. Don't forget we already don't own our training ground!

Goodison will probably end up sold off rather than the club having and dealings with any redevelopment or sentimental purpose.

Dyche and the players really need to avoid relegation. That would be catastrophic for the clubs already disastrous finances.

My fear also is do the club sell the new stadium to a property investor for a large sum, and we then end up extortionate leasing agreements. 

[Zoo 2.0]

I've long stopped being excited for the new stadium. It won't be ours and will be leased back to us at an extortionate cost. It'll be a massive hindrance if anything, especially with the clowns in charge we have running the show. 

Everything about us is a massive shitshow and it's a long road ahead until that's fixed.

[Newty82]

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

My fear also is do the club sell the new stadium to a property investor for a large sum, and we then end up extortionate leasing agreements. 

 

53 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

I've long stopped being excited for the new stadium. It won't be ours and will be leased back to us at an extortionate cost. It'll be a massive hindrance if anything, especially with the clowns in charge we have running the show. 

Everything about us is a massive shitshow and it's a long road ahead until that's fixed.

Yep.

Not only that but can we really trust these people to get an investment deal that's the best for the club vs themselves?

Doubt it.

[StevO]

4 hours ago, Newty82 said:

Don't forget we already don't own our training ground!

 

I thought Moshiri bought it back, it was relatively small value when we sold it to the council. 

[Newty82]

49 minutes ago, StevO said:

I thought Moshiri bought it back, it was relatively small value when we sold it to the council. 

Still shows as being owned by the council from what I can see. Could be wrong though.

[Newty82]

Not sure where to ask this but guess these fuckers had a role in it.

Anyone notice the mad amount of security around the players tunnel at the end of the City game?

What's that all about?

[Romey 1878]

6 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Not sure where to ask this but guess these fuckers had a role in it.

Anyone notice the mad amount of security around the players tunnel at the end of the City game?

What's that all about?

Apparently it was a trial run for the Bournemouth game in case we go down.

[Palfy]

11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Apparently it was a trial run for the Bournemouth game in case we go down.

Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. 

[Matt]

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. 

After the Howe incident, probably just being careful. 

[Zoo 2.0]

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. 

I said straight away that it looked like a Bill Kenwright special - probably a security threat after Erling Haaland was put into a headlock outside The Blue Dragon chippy. The security at the end was properly over the top, especially given the mood in the stadium wasn't violent in the slighest.

The security at the game has sadly been a joke (at both ends of the spectrum) for as long as I can remember.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/

[Romey 1878]

8 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/

I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al.

[Matt]

11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al.

To be honest, this was inevitable with the way football has evolved over the past 20 years. We're a commodity to be traded, a toy. I lose more and more love for the game with each passing story. 

[Zoo 2.0]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

To be honest, this was inevitable with the way football has evolved over the past 20 years. We're a commodity to be traded, a toy. I lose more and more love for the game with each passing story. 

Thanks for saving me the time in posting - this. 

I go the game to spend time with my old man. My love for Everton has been killed by both our board and the direction to sport is rapidly heading to.

[Hafnia]

I just wanna give a little nod to Kenwright,  he said we’ve had good times.  Well, this season I’ve had the pleasure of supporting Newcastle in a few games, Liverpool last Monday, will be a massive West Ham, Newcastle  and Arsenal fan on the weekend. 
 

good times indeed.  

[Newty82]

48 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I just wanna give a little nod to Kenwright,  he said we’ve had good times.  Well, this season I’ve had the pleasure of supporting Newcastle in a few games, Liverpool last Monday, will be a massive West Ham, Newcastle  and Arsenal fan on the weekend. 
 

good times indeed.  

Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win

[Hafnia]

2 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win

Need Brighton tonight so it makes Newcastle have to get a result from the Leicester match. 

[Zoo 2.0]

This whole supporting everyone else in the league is fun but it's costing me a fucking fortune in football shirts.

[Romey 1878]

15 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win

Nope, I refuse. I only acknowledge that I want whoever they're playing to lose.

It is not the same .

[Tonsta]

A bit worried what team West Ham will put on Sunday against Leeds after there game in Europe.

Having said that its up to us to lay the marker down. COYB 

[Sibdane]

3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al.

I'd be shocked if they didn't do their research before buying us and seeing how much most want rid of him(and them), but then again that's just me being hopeful. The first thing they'd need to do is clean house though. 

[Gwlad all over]

4 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/

Mirror article says it hinges on Premier league status so there might be a wait.

[Matt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65636260

Interesting bit at the end 

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12104085/Battle-buy-Everton-takes-turn-MSP-Sports-Capital-confident-complete-deal.html

[Gwlad all over]

MSP Stadium.

[Trigger]

We're bound to f**k this up. We'll end up with no deal with anyone and the CEO of MSP being caught entering Tottenham's training ground by Sky Sports (like deadline day) with an exclusive interview about how they played us off against investing Tottenham to get a better deal....

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12104375/DOMINIC-KING-sad-story-Graeme-Sharps-Everton-exile.html

[Hafnia]

Another client based hit piece from one of Kenwrights journos. a kopite no less - on the day of a massive game.  The wording of it stinks like the letter from kenwright so it’s probably been created by kenwright & prentice and passed through those lovely chaps at the daily Mail who love to have a go at us. 
 

 Just remember, we’ve had good times. That horrible, bitter, sad control freak is trying to destroy us if he can’t have us.   
 

How the fuck were so many fans taken in by him. He’s a manipulative, narcissistic piece of shit. 

[London Blue]

He needs to admit he was wrong, apologise for his actions, and say he just wants to come back to be at Goodison and see Everton play and be part of us again. That is all it would take for his nonsense to be forgiven.

All families have rows and people get caught up in it, just say sorry and we move on.

[Newty82]

The article does sound a bit Kenwright Letter-esque

I can't remember, what exactly did Sharp do wrong?

[Romey 1878]

9 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

The article does sound a bit Kenwright Letter-esque

I can't remember, what exactly did Sharp do wrong?

Gave an interview laying into Everton fans for headlocking Denise and criticising the protests.

[Newty82]

1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

Gave an interview laying into Everton fans for headlocking Denise and criticising the protests.

Ah yeah. Remember now.

Ruined his whole legacy in one interview.

Shame.

[StevO]

Of all the board members he could probably turn up for the games, not like his fellow board members. He would get some stick, probably be asked why he won’t stand down, but nothing like the rest of them. Ultimately, this is a fight with two sides and he’s made it very clear which side he wants to be on. 

[Newty82]

15 minutes ago, StevO said:

Of all the board members he could probably turn up for the games, not like his fellow board members. He would get some stick, probably be asked why he won’t stand down, but nothing like the rest of them. Ultimately, this is a fight with two sides and he’s made it very clear which side he wants to be on. 

He'd also probably be easily forgiven if he held his hands up and said he was off the mark, sorry about that.

[Hafnia]

If he took a step back now then it would appear that he’s hedged his bets and realised he’s going one way or another so stands a chance of a role at the club under new owners. 
 

Evertonians would have probably been ok with him after the headlock incident if he stepped down. We wouldn’t want him to give interviews and castigate the board. His silence would have spoken volumes. 
 

I don’t think any Evertonians are happy that our post war record goal scorer has sided with a regime of disaster. In fact it’s very sad. If sharp was financially secure to the level that he could have an executive level life without being on this board - he would have stepped away.   Kenwright has used him.  To a degree it is understandable that sharp has made this decision cos his role is basically a long term service recognition.  He has had to throw away his status to provide for his family.

 

kenwrights media puppet prentice who is grandson in law to Dixie Dean is another.  A person who has links to Everton’s most recognisable player is used as a spin doctor.

 

we’ve had some bloody good times eh

[plaidharper]

SACK THE BOARD

Just because it hasn't been said in in the last 5 seconds

[Hafnia]

18 hours ago, plaidharper said:

SACK THE BOARD

Just because it hasn't been said in in the last 5 seconds

I think you are missing the point, for the 5th time this season a hit piece has been done by the worlds biggest blue on the eve of a critical game. 
 

you can throw in kenwright sitting on his own at Anfield too for that matter. 
 

If we go down, the anger that should have been forthcoming a long time ago will be seen as a reaction to relegation.  The issue is too many fans never seen this coming.  If we survive, the anger should be just as bad. That lot have destroyed this club. 

[plaidharper]

6 hours ago, Hafnia said:

I think you are missing the point, for the 5th time this season a hit piece has been done by the worlds biggest blue on the eve of a critical game. 
 

you can throw in kenwright sitting on his own at Anfield too for that matter. 
 

If we go down, the anger that should have been forthcoming a long time ago will be seen as a reaction to relegation.  The issue is too many fans never seen this coming.  If we survive, the anger should be just as bad. That lot have destroyed this club. 

Oh I was not being funny or sarcastic.  Meant what I said.  5 seconds has past while typing this so I will say it again: SACK THE BOARD!

[MikeO]

14 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

Oh I was not being funny or sarcastic.  Meant what I said.  5 seconds has past while typing this so I will say it again: SACK THE BOARD!

A very easy and oft repeated sound bite, but who exactly are/is supposed to make it happen when the people in charge are the board?

Are they going to sack themselves?

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-hierarchy-could-haunted-past-26960093

[plaidharper]

34 minutes ago, MikeO said:

A very easy and oft repeated sound bite, but who exactly are/is supposed to make it happen when the people in charge are the board?

Are they going to sack themselves?

Morshiri by sacking them or selling to someone who will.  Of course there is a minimum required amount of people so it goes without saying that sacking means replacing as well.  Feel like this has all been talked about in this thread and doesn't require a longer answer than that.  Just chiming to let my thoughts be known in case anyone forgot and if not, still to shout it into the void.

[MikeO]

2 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

Morshiri by sacking them or selling to someone who will.  Of course there is a minimum required amount of people so it goes without saying that sacking means replacing as well.  Feel like this has all been talked about in this thread and doesn't require a longer answer than that.  Just chiming to let my thoughts be known in case anyone forgot and if not, still to shout it into the void.

So needs something pretty dramatic happening to facilitate the possibility of the board being sacked then, which is why I consider it a somewhat specious and simplistic statement.

[StevO]

I’ll start. 
Sack Denise and Bill. The club doesn’t need a chairman and CEO. If the club rules (which have previously been changed by Bill) dictate we must have a chairman then Moshiri might as well take that role, Bill himself said the chairman doesn’t run the club so the owner might as well be the chair. 
Recruit a CEO. Our potential owners or investors just may have someone suitable lined up. 
 

No issue with Grant Ingles. No issue with Sharp really, I don’t think he’s qualified to be on the board but that’s never been a prerequisite at Everton.

[Hafnia]

It’s quite simple. The owner - moshiri, needs to understand that whilst he is culpable for much of the shit that has gone on, the fans will not tolerate the idiots that he sat with who take a substantial wage for doing a fuckin shite job.  Till he sells up, he needs to get that lot gone. Bring in a team of consultants in a contract. 

He may have been told by kenwright “don’t worry mosh, I’ve got these peasants eating out of my hands, I have a few journos in my pocket and I just throw out a load of teary nonsense every now and then, it will all pass.”    That’s all fucked now - and that’s why he’s gone rogue with his own letters.  They can’t return to goodison so what’s the point in them being employed 

[Bailey]

Still think the biggest issue is Mohsiri himself. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence about how he has dragged us into this financial position and he is the one that has facilitated Kenwright remaining on the board. 

The others I still have no idea about however DBB's role at the club must be extremely tenuous given her lack of comment about "the incident".

[Matt]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674665

 

[Goodison Glory]

Does preferential shares mean we are just taking on more debt? Seems like an outright takeover would better for us (as fans) depending on who took over of course. 

[plaidharper]

Seen on twitter saying both MSP and 777 are going to invest? but neither are going to take over from Morshiri?  Lots of speculation at the moment.  Hopefully the club will let us know what is up in the summer.  Just hope with the potential investment comes change at the board level and then hopefully some stability to take us into our new home.

[Newty82]

Just settling in to watch the Toon hopefully twat Leicester.

If anymore evidence was needed by our owner and board of how shit they've done, of how much they need to happy clapping themselves, its what has gone on at Newcastle in just a year! 

[Hafnia]

Right, another season of stress, shocking mismanagement, fans being lied to, fans being lied about. 
 

GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR CLUB YOU LYING, INCOMPETENT, FRAUDS! 

[Newty82]

Whatever is happening with MSP/777 and all that, as much as I don't like the idea of either of them, needs to be sorted ASAP.

Immediately followed by sorting the boardroom ASAP.

Too many people pointing the finger. It's unbelievable how little accountability there seems to be.

We then need to know what the new owners/board or whatever want to do with Dyche ASAP.

Budgets for transfers need sorting ASAP.

I say this because the transfer window opens 1st June. We would to be on the front foot in an ideal world.

However, the longer this investment > ownership > boardroom > manager thing lingers on for, the more time escapes to make suitable signings.

I know I'm not typing anything you guys don't already know. Us escaping relegation today was nothing but a reminder of the urgency we need things to get moving. The longer this shit drags on, the more chance we have of a rinse repeat next season.

So much to sort out